Topic started by sara (@ 193.113.185.165) on Sat Sep 30 14:44:33 EDT 2000.
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I heard the songs from Rishi are going to be a smash hit. have you any idea on this?
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- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.227)
on: Tue Oct 17 22:20:20 EDT 2000
Digression
Theva,
Kamal saying he may be ahead of Rajni for even a moment after the 70's is a big joke.From where did he get that idea?
Trend
- From: STS (@ 38.28.19.87)
on: Wed Oct 18 01:00:07 EDT 2000
Theva,
Rishi is much better album compared to Thenaali or Alai Payudhe. You will agree this after one year as you agree on Poovellaam Kettuppar. Quite clearly ARR is running out of stuff which is quite seen and heard from press since Alai Paayudhe.
Wait for Zubeidaa?!?!!? Yes, Yes wait for Robot...
then wait for ...
Hope and Wish ARR comes back. Though I don't wish to come to a premature conclusion that who over takes whom, we need to talk about an Album on its pure merits.
- From: Velaiththavan (@ 161.74.55.16)
on: Wed Oct 18 03:42:47 EDT 2000
Theva, don't get me wrong, I too am a die hard fan of ARR. I found that Thenali was not up to the standard of AP or KK KK. It just so happens that the Thenali CD was released at a time when a better CD(Rishi) was released so in this instant, Thenali is miles behind!
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.227)
on: Wed Oct 18 14:02:35 EDT 2000
Guys,
Is it true that Sarath Kumar is the hero for Rishi?Poor YSR -)
Trend
- From: kooththan (@ 198.73.152.100)
on: Wed Oct 18 16:04:42 EDT 2000
"Kamal saying he may be ahead of Rajni for even a moment after the 70's is a big joke."
Trend,
Movies like 'sahala kala vallavan' and 'thuungaathe thambi thuungaathe' were released in the 80s.
Also, may be Kamal meant 'ahead of Rajni' in terms of awards and accolades. It's all a matter of perspective.
....later
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.227)
on: Wed Oct 18 16:35:43 EDT 2000
kooththan,
In terms of awards I agree Kamal has more than Rajni.In fact 14 or 15 Filmfare awards(the most popular awards show) the most by an actor.
If you consider accolades Rajni has always been on top.When we are talking about perspective we shouldn't consider yours or mine but the majority.
It shouldn't be considered on the success of one movie when more people will flock to a better movie.
I think Pandian and Thevar magan were released at the same time.Thevar magan became one of the all time hits and Pandian ran for 50 days(which is a flop atleast according to Rajni standards).
Did that put Kamal ahead of Rajni?
Trend
- From: buckingthetrend (@ 216.34.244.103)
on: Wed Oct 18 17:15:07 EDT 2000
"I think Pandian and Thevar magan were released at the same time.Thevar magan became one of the all time hits and Pandian ran for 50 days(which is a flop atleast according to Rajni standards).
Did that put Kamal ahead of Rajni? "
Adadaa...ennae logic!
Hey Ram flopped and Padayappa made it big. Does that put Rajini "ahead" of Kamal. You might want to reconisider how you characterize "ahead"- There was a film called Thiruttu Purushan (*ing Pramilla..if you didn't get my drift) that ran for 200 days.
- From: vimal (@ 63.80.57.4)
on: Wed Oct 18 19:00:49 EDT 2000
And what about "Pavam Koduran"??
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.227)
on: Thu Oct 19 01:03:15 EDT 2000
Buckingthetrend,
I was not trying to make a new logic.I was refuting kooththan's logic.My point is one movie doing much better than the other doesn't make one actor better than the other.
We should always consider the popular perception of people.I said Rajni is ahead of Kamal after 70's in that perspective.Though Kamal is supposed to make intelligent films(personally ,I don't think so).
I think this is reflected by marketability of the actor.Going into the discussion of who is acting in better films is a different topic altogether.
Please don't bring out all sixth rate junk movies to compare with these two actors' movies.
Trend
- From: sara (@ 213.120.62.70)
on: Thu Oct 19 05:01:38 EDT 2000
Guys the thread is being affected again.It's about YSR's Rishi!!
- From: Theva (@ 209.183.134.106)
on: Fri Oct 20 21:21:25 EDT 2000
Watz goin' on?? Dat was just an example. Don't get off track. Sorry if I side tracked u.
Just to clarify, this was said by Kamal in I think, Padaiyappa award or somethin'. Because Rajni was sitting there w/ Kamal as well.
In Thenali: Athni Chithni, Porkalam, Swasame BELIEVE ME .. these r great songs. May take some time. The others may take some time as well. Rishi I still haven't clicked to them dat well. Not to say they r bad or anything. I need to listen to the music in my big stereo @ home.
Zubeida is out!! And from what I heard and hear, its a great album. You can listen to it @ www.raaga.com But don't comment on dat, Reals and the original product r very different.
I admit when ARR's album is bad, and/or admit when another album sounds great. Poovellam Kettupar, clicked right away, I mean dat song Poove Poove Poove .. dat was great. Also, from Naerukku Naer .. Manam Virumbuthey. And I can go on. I think IR's music in Thalapathi "Rakkammah Kaiye Tattu" the beginnin' is GREAT!! I'm trying to find the CD.
But thenali, there r bad songs or songs dat take some time to adapt and there r songs which do deserve some credit... and I think Athni Chithni, Swasame, Porkalam and even Alangati r some which deserve credit.
- From: Theva (@ 209.183.134.106)
on: Fri Oct 20 21:23:53 EDT 2000
I am a die hard fan of Rajni!! Ever since I was a kid, and I thought Pandiyan was gREAT!! I loved dat movie. But, movie like Arunachalam was not dat great. I was kinda disappointed. Badshah was awesome!!
W/ Kamal movie ... Avvai Shanmughi, Indian is a real good one!! Also, Michael Madhana Kama Rajan .. something I haven't seen anyone do yet.
- From: STS (@ 38.28.19.167)
on: Sat Oct 21 23:43:15 EDT 2000
Theve,
Accept it or not. Rishi is far better album than ARR's recent Alai Paayudhe or Rhythm or Thenaali. It sounds great in your big stereo in home, I assure. We talk about YSR and you talk about ARR & Zubeida.
You know what "Atthini Sithini" is a lift from 'Naguma Naguma Nagu Naguma' of "Super Police" (a Telugu film with Venkatesh as hero).
'Aalangati' sounds very similar to 'Chandiranai thottathu' from 'Ratchakagan'. Well forget it. If no good, pls accept it. No need to talk about the same thing again and again and again!!!
If you talk about songs deserving some credit, every song deserves some credit, not only ARR. It seems like you want the TFM lovers to be sympathetic for ARR's bad performance. I wish a decent album from ARR again.
Recently things seem to go well for IR/KR/YSR.
- From: Theva (@ 207.245.235.124)
on: Sun Oct 22 11:05:34 EDT 2000
No, I'm not saying to be sympathetic to ARR. At first listen of Thenali. I didn't like it at all. But after a few listens, its good.
Those two movies u said. They r also done by ARR. I saw Super Police and Ratchakan. What song is dat in Tamil??
And pleeze, Rishi is DEFINITELY not better than Alai Payuthey, Kandukonden Kandukonden or Rhythm!!
I listen to lots of other MD's albums. I like YSR's "The Blast" That was a good album. I bought dat CD. I have Poovellam Kettupar. I got Ullasam by Kartik Rajah,etc.
In Rishi, I like Oh Maane, da Nila song. I forgot how it goes.
ARR copies from his own music to satisfy all his languages dat he makes songs for. From Telugu, tamil, hindi, malay, etc.
Let's put Rishi vs. Poovellam Kettupar, PK is a lot better!! I like The Blast even better. Rishi didn't get to me dat much really. I need more listens I guess.
- From: Kashtam (@ 24.26.25.180)
on: Sun Oct 22 13:08:15 EDT 2000
Theva .. do you know that the spelling for the article *the* is T ... H ... E ? What's with all the da's? Trying to sound cool? Duh!
- From: Ali Ahmed (@ 203.197.135.207)
on: Sun Oct 22 13:25:11 EDT 2000
Sometimes neenga reference tharugira pattu ellam parkkumpodhu( not in this thread, but in other topics)I feel most of you are above 40 years old....Ennomo Style ah...Teenage boys madhiri Chat panna Vetkama illai ?? In this thread using slangs like ...da...dat....etc etc Thngamudiyavillaiye...Ahmed..( just three days old to this Forum)
- From: Theva (@ 207.245.235.196)
on: Sun Oct 22 15:01:00 EDT 2000
How old do u think I am?? Yes, I am a teenager. After chatting on da net... for a long time. I adjust to different types of lingo's. If u can't handle it. Too bad.
BTW .. I'm not even close to forty...
I use Dat instead of the. Since I feel more comfortable w/ it. Not trying to be cool. Or anythin' like dat. I know how to spell. I like to put my style into it. Diz is just an aside, and not even worth posting. Sorry..
- From: Aalavanthaan (@ 193.113.185.133)
on: Mon Oct 23 09:28:49 EDT 2000
Hey guys,I just managed to get a copy of Rishi, it's sold out everywhere so I ended up placing an order for it. It's a great CD. I was very impressed with Jambo idhu kadhal and Nilavai konjam. Although the music doesn't sound fitting for a Sarathkumar flick, Meena could pull off a couple of the tracks. I think overall its a cool album, almost as good as PKP which was wonderful.
- From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5)
on: Mon Oct 23 09:47:28 EDT 2000
Theva, you can adapt any style. But it should not be a pain while reading. Think every one in the world adapting thier own spelling calling it style, wont it be a chaos?. You can better show you creativity in the content. Thanks. ennamo unga ishtam.
- From: NagaS (@ 203.197.174.37)
on: Mon Oct 23 10:30:25 EDT 2000
Aalavanthaan.,
I guess you are right. The copy I got was the last one in the shop and the shop owner was telling it is a hit in terms of sales.
About the album, I feel this is a pretty decent one by YSR. Defenitely in the standards of Poovellaam Keettup Paar. Considering his Age, I would say this is a very good effort by the young raja. I remember Sarath's interview in Kumudam sometime back, 'Rishi-kku YSR rompa nallaa songs compose paNNiyirukkaar. Intha songs ellaam keettuttu avarukku 2 padam vaayppu vanthirukku' - I guess sarath is right about this.
'Oh mane mane' is my pick of the album. Very melodious tune, I liked the male version better - Hariharan has done it without any mistake whereas Sujatha lacks something(Strange ??), High pitchla leesaa pisiRu thattaRa maathiri oru feeling.
'Vaa Vaa poovee vaa' is another good number (S Janaki arumaiyaa paadiyirukkaanga., Particularly listen to her when she sings 'Un ThooLkaL reNdum kiLaiyaaga., Naan panjcha varNak kiLiyaaga' .... Intha kuralukku vayasee illai pola irukkiRathu !).
'Nilavaik koncham' is a sort of experiement song .. Good rhythm., Good work by Anu Sriram.,
'Jambo' is an average number, Reminds me 'Ellaam Unakkaaga' (UEU) and 'Choolaaree' (Ullaasam),
'KaaTRoodu Puyalaay ..' - probably the title song., Makes some impression after 2/3 listenings. Initially I didn't like this song., But now, I can say with confidence this is a better song - Atleast when compared to another latest song 'Thennnnnnnaaaaaali' sung by the same singer for the same sort of situation. (Appaa, saNdai moottiyaachchu., Ippo 'kallu varap pooguthayya' ;-)
Overall, I would rate this album 7.5/10., can go better., But sarath - Sunder.c moviekku intha effort more than enoughnnu thooNuthu., ;-) NOM.
Sila santheekangaL :
1. No songs for Bhavadharini ???!!!! Ennaachchu Yuvan ?! (Ayyoo., adikka varaatheenga)
2. In 'KaaTRoodu Puyalaay vanthaay', pa. vijay has written something like this - 'Theeyoodu (Fire) oliyaay(Sound) vanthaay' - What does this mean ? 'oLi' (Light)nnu kavinjar ezuthiyathai 'Oli' (Sound)nnu Shankar Mahadevan paadittaaraa ? Anyway a perfect lyrical abaththam.
3. I liked the lyrics for the song 'Oh mane mane' (Panju Arunachalam). Eventhough it sounds old., 'Soga nizhalee Poo poo., Deepa oLiyee vaa vaa' ponDRa varikaL, create the needed nambikkai in mind which is supposed to be the mood of the song., Anybody to support my side ?
4. Sunder.c padaththilee azaRa maathiri, AaaRuthal solRa maathiriyellaam paattu varumaa enna ? Athisayamaa irukku !
5. Who is going to dance for 'Nilavaik konjcham Kaathali' ???? - Meena or Sanghavi ???? (hi hi hi :-)
NagaS
- From: Krishna (@ 192.135.244.69)
on: Tue Oct 24 01:11:23 EDT 2000
The song 'Oh Mane Mane' definitely scores a top mark.
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