Topic started by UV (@ 134.113.203.137) on Tue May 8 12:46:02 EDT 2001.
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Guys
I recently happen to read the interview of
the prime suspect in the murder case of Gulshan kumar Mr.Nadeem who convinently espaced the hands of law is now in London,is composing music for hindi movies and also gives good interviews!!
In his latest he interviews he has the audacity to claim that ARR is at his worst and will fadeway and was kind enough to give Taal 70/100.
Guys its time we put these jealous and overproud north MD in their place.
IR lost the battle,and they did the injustics towards Vani Jayaram,even Chitra complained about this back stabbing,only our ARR is the guy who made impact in north now there is a sabatoge going against him also
click here to rediff this outrageous interview
http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2001/may/08nadeem.htm
Rediff they are also m'orons when it comes to south cine industry
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- From: tamilianforlife (@ 203.197.80.136)
on: Mon May 14 08:57:55 EDT 2001
>>>But in any event, having other singers dub over for already recorded songs is not new. IR and ARR have both done it.
Yes, it seems Chitras songs have been dubbed in the South too. Even IR did his fair share of politics by having a cold war with ARR (probably to unfairly support his rather mediocre kids).
- From: tamilianforlife (@ 203.197.80.136)
on: Mon May 14 08:58:06 EDT 2001
dear aruvi:
>>>But in any event, having other singers dub over for already recorded songs is not new. IR and ARR have both done it.
Yes, it seems Chitras songs have been dubbed in the South too. Even IR did his fair share of politics by having a cold war with ARR (probably to unfairly support his rather mediocre kids).
- From: Lakshmanan (@ 172.136.167.65)
on: Mon May 14 09:09:17 EDT 2001
Hey guys, this is just a plan by that dog nadeem to be talked about by all of us.That dog back bites at everyone and now he is trying to bark at my GOD ARR..
- From: cosmician (@ 194.170.1.67)
on: Mon May 14 14:25:42 EDT 2001
Keep it up Karthik...if u want to start something like "IFM Plagiarism Watch"...I'm ready...at least it'll warn composers that the public are not fools !
- From: e.hari (@ 199.67.138.20)
on: Mon May 14 16:25:07 EDT 2001
For a start. This is the list in RMIM archieves. I think, the original list posted in some mumbai magazine ( midday?).
50 SONGS "INSPIRED " BY WESTERN MUSIC
1. Koi nahin tere jaisa - KEEMAT - Rajesh Roshan
"Cotton Eyed Joe --Rednex"
2. Hum dono hai alag alag - MAIN KHILADI TU ANADI - Anu Malik
Same As Above
3. Suno Zara - BADA DIN - Jatin-Lalit
"You needed Me --Anne Murray"
4. Hello Hello Bolke - AAKROSH - Anand Raj Anand
"Buffalo Soldier --Bob Marley"
5. Ladna Jhagadna - DUPLICATE - Anu Malik
"A-tisket A-tasket-- Ella Fitzgerald"
6. Laaoon Kahan se - JAANE JIGAR - Rajesh Roshan
"Hotel California --Eagles"
7. Don't break my Heart - MOHABBAT - Nadeem-Shravan
"I've Been Waiting--Stereo Nation"
8. Chod Zid Karna - PYAR KIYA TO DARNA KYA - Jatin Lalit
Same As Above
9. Dil Mera Churaya kyon - AKELE HUM AKELE TUM - Anu Malik
"Last Christmas--- Wham"
10. Raja ko Rani se Pyar ho gaya - AKELE HUM AKELE TUM - Anu Malik
"Signature Tune --The Godfather"
11. Dole Dil Dole - BAAZI - Anu Malik
"Signature Tune ---Come September"
12. Nazren Mili Dil Dhadka - RAJA - Nadeem Shravan
Same As Above
13. Main Teri Hoon Janam - KHOON BHARI MAANG - Rajesh Roshan
"Signature Tune -- Chariots Of Fire"
14. Jab Koi Bat Bigad Jaye - JURM - Rajesh Roshan
"A Hundred Miles -- ??"
15. Le Pappiyan Jhappiyan - HAQEEQAT - Dilip - Sameer Sen
"Tequila -- ??"
16. Chura Liya hai Tumne - YAADON KI BARAT - R.D. Burman
"Title Track If it is Tuesday it must be Belgium"
17. Hari om Hari - PYARA DUSHMAN - Bappi Lahiri
"One Way Ticket --Eruption"
18. Oh Mere Jaise Haseena - ARMAAN - Bappi Lahiri
"When you're in love with a beautiful Woman --Dr. Hook"
19. O Meri Neend Churane Wale - CHAMATKAR - Anu Malik
"Same As Above.
20. Saathiya, Tu Mere Sapnon ka Meet Hai - INSAAN - Laxmikant Pyarelal
Angelo -- Brother Hood of Man
21. Jai Maa Kali - KARAN ARJUN - Rajesh Roshan
It's Allright --Michael Jackson
22. Gawah Hai - DAMINI - Nadeem Shravan
Malaika ?
23. O Mere Sapnon ke Saudagar - DIL HAI KI MANTA NAHIN - Nadeem Shravan
Bachelor Boy --Cliff Richard
24. Aate Jaate - MAINE PYAR KIYA - Raam Laxman
I Just Called --Stevie Wonder
25. Mere Rang Mein - MAINE PYAR KIYA - Raam Laxman
The Final Countdown -- Europe
26. Itna Na Mujhse Tu - CHHAYA - Salil Chaudhary
40th Symphony -- Mozart
27. Jumma Chumma - HUM - Laxmikant Pyarelal
Mori Kante ---Mori Kante
28. Tamma Tamma €HAANEDAR - Bappi Lahiri
Same As Above
29. Tune Kiya Tha Vaada - KSHATRIYA - Laxmikant Pyarelal
Will you be There ---Michael Jackson
30. Dil Usse Do - ANDAZ - Shankar Jaikishen
With A little help From my friends ---THE BEATLES
31. Sandese Aate Hain (opening portion) - BORDER - Anu Malik
Same As Above
32. O Main Tera Tum Mere - RAM SHASTRA - Anu Malik
Love you more than I can Say --Leo Sayer
33. Tu Woh Tu Hai - BEQAABU - Anu Malik
Signature Tune The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
34. Neela Duppata - HAMESHA - Anu Malik
They Don't really care about us ---Michael Jackson
35. Tu Hi Tu Hai Sanson Mein - KABHI NA KABHI - A.R.Rahman
Scarborough Fair --Simon & Garfunkel
(OHHH NOOOOO! I only hope ARR has still left it acoustic, and not gone
electronic with this one too).
36. Ek Haseena Thi - KARZ - Laxmikant Pyarelal
Angelo --Brotherhood of Man
(Funny, because I used to sing both the songs quite often and never till today
thought they were similar. Unfortunately they are. Still a good copy).
37. Mehbooba Mehbooba - SHOLAY - R.D.Burman
Say you Love Me ---Demis Roussos
38. Tumse Milke - PARINDA - R.D.Burman
When I need You ---Leo Sayer
39. Arre Baba - AUZAAR - Anu Malik
Macarena
40. Dil De De Dena - DHAAL - Anu Malik
Macarena
41. Haseena Gori Gori - TARAAZU - Rajesh Roshan
In the Summertime ---Mungo Jerry/ Shaggy
42. Koi Yahan Nache Nache - SURAKSHA - Bappi Lahiri
Video killed the Radio Star -- ??
43. Sochna Kya - GHAYAL - Bappi Lahiri
Lambada
44. Ek Rasta Aha Aha - RAM BALRAM - Laxmikant Pyarelal
That's the way Aha Aha ---KC and the Sunshine Band
45. Yaar Ki Khabar Mil Gayee - RAM BALRAM - Laxmikant Pyarelal
Kung Fu Fighting ---Carl Douglas
46. Tere Naam Ke Hum Deewane - JUDAAI - Laxmikant Pyarelal
Brown Girl in the rain ---Boney M
47. Saamne Aa - JUDAAI - Laxmikant Pyarelal
Love Story ---Title Tune
48. Rehane Ko Ek Ghar Ho ga - MAN PASAND - Rajesh Roshan
All I want is a room Somewhere --Song from My Fair Lady
49. Mil Gaya Ham ko Saathi - HUM KISISE KAM NAHIN - R.D. Burman
Waterloo -- ABBA
50. Kisike Hath Na Ayegi yeh Ladki - CHAALBAAZ - Laxmikant Pyarelal
Part Time Lover --Stevie Wonder
Regards
e.hari
- From: Srikant (@ 12.47.54.252)
on: Mon May 14 18:34:07 EDT 2001
I grew up in Delhi and in general listen to old hindi classics of yester years. I am not a great Fan of AR Rahman . However people like Nadeem are peace of shiit . ARR is far ahead of the race and I dont think anyone in India is even closer to him in terms of his acheivement . The fact that someone says ARR is an average composer, then we know for sure he or she is full of bull shhit
- From: Chennaivaasi (@ 208.59.247.8)
on: Mon May 14 19:29:34 EDT 2001
why even discuss a statement by a known murderer!!!
- From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.20)
on: Mon May 14 23:47:01 EDT 2001
Listen to Nadeem's another inspired piece of composition from the same movie Dhadkan! The song 'aksar is duniya mein'. The original is by the Lebanese singer Najwa Karam, the song 'ashtany' from her 5th album Rooh Roohi.
Even the lyrics sound similar man! Incredible bit of copying which'd out Bappi Lahiri to shame!
http://blake.prohosting.com/~cyan1/atshany.rm
- From: cosmician (@ 194.170.1.67)
on: Mon May 14 23:47:37 EDT 2001
Cool Hari :)...
I never thought of this one..and "Scarborough Fair" is one of my all time favourites..
35. Tu Hi Tu Hai Sanson Mein - KABHI NA KABHI - A.R.Rahman
Scarborough Fair --Simon & Garfunkel
- From: lv (@ 203.197.80.151)
on: Tue May 15 00:31:53 EDT 2001
respected e-hari:
I have learnt quite a bit of western classical and heard Mozart's 40th symphony. Only the FIRST line of the song 'Itna na mujhhse tu pyaar badha' is a lift from the symphony. The remaining parts are different totally. BTW - 90% of the list you have given is of new songs except a few by RDB.
In any case, please go to the copied songs section of this page and see the list of inspirations all our MDs have (except IR ).
In any case lets all ignore Nadeem's stupid statements. Why pay so much attention to a person accused in a murder case. But what I am really surprised (as an aside) is of Anuradha Paudwal. I heard she's started singing regularly for Nadeem and Shravan, though Nadeem was accused of killing her mentor!!!
- From: kk (@ 172.173.93.31)
on: Tue May 15 02:14:03 EDT 2001
lv .......,
What does IR have to do with the content of you posting? (there are few entires of IR in that section go and see properly). E-hari already said he is posting from a differnt source, so what can respected hari will do if they are all new or old?
Dont you have any brain at all. Why dont you read before writing?
I know comiscian, Karthi S, E-hari. Though I dont know these people, atleast they have some credibility with the nick they are using. Who are you? I never seen your nick. Care to introduce yourself? Please share your WCM knowledge with your identity. And what do you think of mr tamilan-for-life?
- From: lv (@ 203.197.82.181)
on: Tue May 15 02:51:16 EDT 2001
Mr KK;
Here again - I did not mean to say anything about IR copying at all. It is others. The fact is we are digressing in this discussion. What Nadeem said about ARR is only pathetic and I have not supported that. So whats your PROBLEM???????????
And I am NOT the same as Tamilian-for-life - for Heaven Sake. As far as my identity goes - what about yours MR KK. For that matter how do I know that you are not posting with different names from different places(in case you are on tour).
I have posted AS LV AND LV only.
Besides, please check out the notations of the Salil C song - especially the inner stanzas, and realise what I am saying. In any case, I do not need to convince you that I have learnt music at all!!!
- From: satsona (@ 203.199.192.162)
on: Tue May 15 04:13:23 EDT 2001
hi lv (@ 203.197.80.151
i am satsona from chennai. would like to discuss a little about how u practise Western Music. Please do provide some inputs. Currently i am learning the notations on my own thru some Books. What else do u think i can do ?Please do tell me since u r into WCM.
Anybody else too can post any info reg. this.
cheers
Satsona
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