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Why ARR ignores established/Senior singers?

Topic started by NCR (@ 206.30.30.2) on Tue Aug 6 10:50:06 EDT 2002.
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ARR always promoted new, unheard voices right from the beginning, he always used senior and established singers like PS, SPB,SJ, Yesudass, Mano, Chitra for very less songs. He promoted many new singers. One benefit he got out of this is that we are able to hear fresh voices, but on the other hand he lost the quality of songs by compromising with horrible pronounciation of these singers, lack of experience and definetely missing the punch those experienced singers had.

There are lot of songs, I thought the song would have better if sang by somebody else. Latest BABA too has a wrong selection of singers. Particularly Shankar Mahadevan and Reena Bhardwaj. I would have preferred Sujatha over Reena. What could be the reason?

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• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Mon Aug 12 10:32:41 EDT 2002
  
  i do not agree with u on the fact that KJY is versatile, SPB is the most versatile singer
  That's it, Raghu said it and we all better accept it. On and on and on, he goes on saying SPB is the most versatile singer and everyone else is his kaaldoosi. SPB has his own unique style of singing and he is a very humble person and I like him for that. But please stop making him God and start giving due respect to other singers who were equal to or better than him.
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Mon Aug 12 10:51:23 EDT 2002
  
  Kaumudi;
  
  >>everyone else is his kaaldoosi<< when did I make such ignorant statements? pls look @ how many threads I have started about other legendary singers like PBS, AMR, Jeyachandran, SJ, Asha bonsle,.....etc.
  
  But facts r facts, SPB is the most versatile singer, nobody will disagree with me on this, except u. calling KJY a versatile singer is such an abserd statement.
  
  in terms of versatility close match to SPB would be Rafi, Kishore, TMS, M.vasu, mano, (SPB imitator), certainly not KJY or PBs or AMR,...etc.
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Mon Aug 12 10:53:35 EDT 2002
  
  Kaumudi;
  
  >>But please stop making him God and start giving due respect to other singers who were equal to or better than him. <<
  
  oh here we go again, since when we treat SPB as god, & since when we DISRESPCTED other singers?, we call hari nasal, because he sings through his nose, now how is that being disrespectful.
  
  pls clarify.
  
  
• From: Raji (@ 209.11.42.194) on: Mon Aug 12 11:50:49 EDT 2002
  
  Raghu is SPB kovil pujari and also father mother guru constable of all jalras! His posts are embarassing to SPB and many others IMO.
  
  
• From: Raji (@ 209.11.42.194) on: Mon Aug 12 12:06:45 EDT 2002
  
  IMO, ARR is not using senior and established singers because they are knowing a lot more about indian music than him! That is why TFM is filled with ppl who cannot speak and sing tamil properly. Senior singers will correct him and teach him tamil (ARRs tamil is very bad and he is never speaking in tamil for interviews if you remember,)the new singers will just sing nonsense crap like baba kichu kichu and baba nachu nachu. He is saying the new singers are sounding natural!!! IMO they are sounding like aliens or some other abawara prani. Ellam neram. And themost stupid are tamils for accepting and clapping for this rubbish!
  
  
• From: Nijam (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Mon Aug 12 21:02:29 EDT 2002
  
  First ARR introduces them, then other MDs, including seasoned IR, uses them EXTENSIVELY.
  
  So who is stupid?
  
  
• From: Ithuthaandaa UNMAI (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Mon Aug 12 21:08:39 EDT 2002
  
  Here are the songs of the much hue-ha'd album in this forum, En Mana Vaazhvil by IR:
  
  1. Enna Solli pAduvathO (Hariharan, SAdhana Sargam)
  2. Unnai Thedi VeNNilA (Hariharan)
  3. Kuthu Kuthu KummAnguthu (Mano, Surendar, Karthik, Harish Ragavendar, Sujatha & Chorus)
  4. Unnai kANum podhu (Hariharan & KArthik)
  5. RoatOra pAttu Chatham KekkudhA (Yesudas, Shruti Kamal Hasan)
  6. Unnai Thedi vENNilA (IR)
  7. Muthu Muthu PoNNukkoru MuthumAlai (Karthik, BhavadhAriNi)
  8.Vayasu Vantha vAlibanukku pONNu kodukkaRiyA?(Napolean, Surendar, Biju, Swarnalatha & Chorus)
  
  WHERE ARE THE ESTABLISHED/SENIOR SINGERS?
  
  
• From: Ithuthaandaa UNMAI (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Mon Aug 12 21:09:59 EDT 2002
  
  Here are the songs of the much hue-ha'd album in this forum, En Mana Vaazhvil by IR:
  
  1. Enna Solli pAduvathO (Hariharan, SAdhana Sargam)
  2. Unnai Thedi VeNNilA (Hariharan)
  3. Kuthu Kuthu KummAnguthu (Mano, Surendar, Karthik, Harish Ragavendar, Sujatha & Chorus)
  4. Unnai kANum podhu (Hariharan & KArthik)
  5. RoatOra pAttu Chatham KekkudhA (Yesudas, Shruti Kamal Hasan)
  6. Unnai Thedi vENNilA (IR)
  7. Muthu Muthu PoNNukkoru MuthumAlai (Karthik, BhavadhAriNi)
  8.Vayasu Vantha vAlibanukku pONNu kodukkaRiyA?(Napolean, Surendar, Biju, Swarnalatha & Chorus)
  
  WHERE ARE THE ESTABLISHED/SENIOR SINGERS?
  
  
• From: smiley (@ 203.199.156.135) on: Mon Aug 12 22:39:03 EDT 2002
  
  kaumudi :-)
  
  u are missing raghuvaran swami's points....KJY lacks the manly bass and muscular punch od SPBs voice...at high pitches KJY sounds feminine whereas SPB sounds like a wrestler. ;-) ;-) ;-)
  
  hariharan sings through nose and shankar sings through foot. so they are nasal singers, so where are we showing disrespect ;-)
  
  only spb is most versatile singer, with 40k+ songs, so he is the greatest. kjy is great but spb is greater. spb has such powerful bass that we should call him S P BASS-SUBRAMANIAM :-))
  
  
  
• From: smiley (@ 203.199.156.135) on: Mon Aug 12 22:39:14 EDT 2002
  
  kaumudi :-)
  
  u are missing raghuvaran swami's points....KJY lacks the manly bass and muscular punch of SPBs voice...at high pitches KJY sounds feminine whereas SPB sounds like a wrestler. ;-) ;-) ;-)
  
  hariharan sings through nose and shankar sings through foot. so they are nasal singers, so where are we showing disrespect ;-)
  
  only spb is most versatile singer, with 40k+ songs, so he is the greatest. kjy is great but spb is greater. spb has such powerful bass that we should call him S P BASS-SUBRAMANIAM :-))
  
  
  
• From: curses (@ 203.199.231.38) on: Mon Aug 12 22:41:59 EDT 2002
  
  adada! :)
  
  
• From: Vj (@ 61.11.82.48) on: Tue Aug 13 00:46:28 EDT 2002
  
  haaaw... who woke me up? yaaaaaaawn.... I-)
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Tue Aug 13 04:44:07 EDT 2002
  
  Raji;
  
  >>Raghu is SPB kovil pujari and also father mother guru constable of all jalras! His posts are embarassing to SPB and many others IMO.<<
  
  ha ha nice joke, it is in india, u ppl worship humans , like Rajnikanth , MGR, Kushboo, (they even built a temple for her, hos sick & sad, do they ever build any schools rather than temples for heros/heroines in India ?) blah blah blah, it is in your country that there are so called thick fanatics, thank god I am not one of them.
  
  get your facts right b4 u speak, I never underestimated the abilities of any other singers, every one has skills, that's y they are there, but facts r facts, any way, u must have @ least some music sense to talk about singers or music in general,do u have that?
  
  well, I do!!
  
  I sing , I compose for a music group called "raaga" in UK, so I do know how difficult it is to render some of SPB's songs.
  
  BTW, we do not pray to humans like u guys do, we do not have "sai baba" & the rest of the crap, in our country thank god 4 that!
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Tue Aug 13 04:44:31 EDT 2002
  
  oops;
  
  I meant How sick.
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Tue Aug 13 04:50:34 EDT 2002
  
  Curses & smiley( same IP address);
  
  Oh pls don't call me a swami, call some one else in India & worship him / her, build a temple, get a magician to do some tricks to attract some illiterate crowd, take all their hard earned money, build a golden shrine for your swami & start a business in the name of GOD, there will be loads of idiots 2 support u!
  
  Good luck.
  
  
• From: curses (@ 203.199.248.108) on: Tue Aug 13 06:51:16 EDT 2002
  
  smiley (@ 203.199.156.135)
  curses (@ 203.199.231.38)
  
  Raghu.. pleeze. start wearing specs. i beg u.
  btw.. i was adadaing for his soke.
  
  naan enna sonenaye purunjukama lecture adikareengale.
  
  neways. let it rest. gud luck.
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Tue Aug 13 10:21:48 EDT 2002
  
  Smiley
  Couldn't help laughing reading your post!
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Tue Aug 13 10:28:17 EDT 2002
  
  Kaumudi;
  
  me 2, it was so hilariously made up carp, haha :))
  
  
• From: Unmai (@ 24.130.233.129) on: Tue Aug 13 12:44:57 EDT 2002
  
  Curses!! It should obviously be from you..
  Even i can give you that illusion.. by logging in and logging out 100 times, and i can use 100 different IDs with 100 different IPs. Admit it Curses. Are you one of those stupid Nijam
  
  Guys Please ignore Postings from this ID
  161.142.100.86. Whoever belongs to this ID must be a moron. In one posting he supports Illayaraja. In another posting he bashes Illayaraja. I think he is a mental case.
  
  Check for yourself
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From: GB (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Thu Aug 8 10:10:38 EDT 2002
  
  
  
  porutevar boomi-ye allvar....
  so IR fans plz stay calm n tuned,,
  only time will reveal His magnificent work in Ivan
  
  
  
  
  
  From: Nijam (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Thu Aug 8 21:02:23 EDT 2002
  
  
  
  Guys, why are you wasting your time on Ivan, avan and such stupid stuff?
  
  Fact is no one outside this forum talks about Ivan.
  
  
  PLEASE IGNORE THIS 161.142.100.86. HE USES 100 IDS I GUESS. HE USES GB,NIJAM and SO MANY NAMES
  
  
  
  
  
• From: raji (@ 209.11.42.194) on: Tue Aug 13 20:48:39 EDT 2002
  
  Tamil language is also indian!! If you are having such a poor opinion regarding indians why are you listening to indian music??? In the west also there are fanatics who have made god of elvis in usa and beatles in england. And for your information I am from music background and am knowing indian music systems, hindustani and southern carnatic music.
  SPB is Telegu native, that is a fact. He is fat and round, that is also fact. but he is "most versatile" singer is only your opinion. It is not universal fact. Learn the difference before posting!!!
  
  
• From: Nijam (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Tue Aug 13 21:16:01 EDT 2002
  
  Looks like this guy has gone beserk.
  He seems as excited as he was when IR's new album is released.
  Mr. Unmai, do not celebrate yet. I am not GB as I mentioned yesterday. It is probably a coincidence that the ID is same. Just remember that there are only two providers in this country.
  If you analyse properly, you would know the difference in the style of writing. Obviously GB is a IR fan. Hope he comes and clarify things.
  
  Whatever you choose to believe, it does not take an ounce of truth from what I (not GB) posted.
  
  I pity you for clutching at straws.
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Wed Aug 14 04:43:32 EDT 2002
  
  Raji;
  
  sorr, I did not mean to have a go @ u, but your words like, GOD, worship, made me really angry, hence the aggressive posting sorry about that.
  
  >>SPB is Telegu native, that is a fact. He is fat and round, that is also fact<<
  
  OF course, that is true & that is a FACT, I do accept that, :)
  
  if u call KJY versatile singer, that is like u said is your opinion, I think ppl should be allowed to vote as to who is the most "Versatile singer", I am sure KJY will be out of this competition, surely 99% will agree with me
  
  no offence meant
  
  :)
  
  

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