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The BIGGEST mistake IR made is .........

Topic started by ARR (@ 195.92.67.65) on Mon Feb 10 15:28:28 EST 2003.
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The Biggest ever mistake IR commited in his life is not to use the genius SPB ji, IR can not give a huge hit without SPB, ok, expect sindhu bhairavai, most of early till mid 90's songs of IR were given to Jokers like Mano, who him self is BIG SPB fanatic, why does IR do this, Is he worried that SPB will take all the credit, look at Kaasi songs, all by the zombi hariharan, y not SPB?

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• From: MUSIC LOVER (@ 195.226.230.37) on: Sat Feb 15 12:03:20 EST 2003
  
  PICHAI EDUKARA PARADESI GUYS ALL TALKING ABOUT ILAYARAAJA AND WHAT HE SHOULD DO,ELLAM NERAM DA,ILAYARAAJA HAS THE CREDIT OF SCORING FOR 800 FILMS,IS THE ONLY ASIAN TO COMPOSE MUSIC FOR THE ROYAL PHILHARMONIC SOCIETY,IS THE ONLY INDIAN MUSIC DIRECTOR WHO WAS A VISITING PROFESSOR IN THE TRINITY COLLEGE OF MUSIC AND KANDA KANDA DOGS TALKING ABOUT HIM,1000 PERIYAR VANDHA KUDA UNGALAI THIRUTHA MUDIYATHU DA
  
  
• From: Misguided Soul (@ 203.195.208.26) on: Sat Feb 15 12:51:21 EST 2003
  
  HEY MUNDA KOODHI'S UNDERSTAND, OTHER THAN ARR NO ONE IN THIS WORLD CAN COMPOSE MUSIC WHICH CAN BE ENJOYED!HE IS NOT A COPYCAT LIKE OTHERS!MUSIC IS PROUD ONLY AFTER HIS ARRIVAL! HE IS A LIVING GOD! HE IS THE CREATOR OF MUSIC!!! MUSIC HAS EVOLVED ONLY AFTER HIS ARRIVAL!!! SO COCK UP YOUR HOLES AND JUST LISTEN TO HIS MUSIC!!! LONG LIVE "FATHER OF MUSIC ARR"!
  
  
• From: av (@ 132.206.72.96) on: Sat Feb 15 16:42:57 EST 2003
  
  ---kaasi songs, all by the zombi hariharan, y not SPB? ----
  
  ARR (the person who started this thread):
  
  are you the same as Sam? :-)
  
  
• From: x (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Sun Feb 16 09:30:05 EST 2003
  
  
  audio guy, the following movies came in during late85 to mid95. IR gave different music in all these movies. Now explain to me why u think they were boring if you really meant what you said.
  
  Anjali
  Varusham 16
  Mella Thiranthathu Kadhavu
  Mouna Raagam
  Kunguma Chimizh
  Mudhal Mariyaadai
  Sindhu Bairavi
  Geethanjali
  Aanand
  Idhaya Koil
  Thendraley Ennai Thodu
  Amman Koil Kizhakkaalae
  Japanil Kalyanaraman
  Kaakki Sattai
  Pagal Nilavu
  Pillai Nila
  Andha Oru Nimidam
  Oru Kaithiyan Diary
  Udaya Geetham
  Kanni Raasi
  Uyarntha Ullam
  Aan Paavam
  Sree Raaghavendar
  Dharma Pathni
  Kadalora Kavithaigal
  Kodai Mazhai
  Natpu
  Punnagai Mannan
  Sippiukkul muthu
  Aruvadhai Nall
  Paadu Nilave
  Mandhira Punnagai
  Mudhal Vasantham
  Enga Ooru Paattukkaaran
  Iniya Uravu Poothathu
  Manadhil Orudhi Vendum
  Nayagan
  Ninaive Oru Sangeetham
  Vikram
  Manithanin Maru Pakkam
  Ninaikka Therinda Maname
  Poo Vizhi Vaasaliley
  Rettai Vaal Kuruvi
  Theertha Karayinile
  Agni Nakshatram
  En Bommakkutti Ammavukku
  Sembagame Sembagame
  Raja Rishi
  Dharmathin Thalaivan
  En Jeevan Paaduthe
  En Uyir Kannamma
  Oruvar Vaazhum Aalayam
  Kaadhal Parisu
  Sathya
  Unnaal Mudiyum Thambi
  Apoorva Sahodarargal
  Solla Thudikkuthu Manasu
  Soora Samhaaram
  Geethanjali
  Karagaattakkaaran
  Mappilai
  Ore Oru Graamathile
  Paandi Naattu Thangam
  Pongi Varum Kaveri
  Pudhu Pudhu Arthangal
  Raajadhi Raaja
  Poonthotta Kaavalkkaaran
  Vaadyaar Veettu Pillai
  Vetri Vizha
  Arengetra Velai
  Chatriyan
  En Uyir Thozhan
  Guru Sishyulu
  Keladi Kanmani
  Kizhakku Vasal
  Michael Madana Kama Rajan
  Kolangal
  Mounam Sammatham
  Ooru Vittu Ooru Vandhu
  Paattukku Naan Adimai
  Pulan Visaaranai
  Captian Prabhakaran
  Chinna Thambi
  Dalapathi
  Eeramaana Rojave
  Guna
  Idhayam
  Pudhiya Raagam
  Pudhu Nellu Pudhu Naathu
  Mannan
  Thaayamma
  Aavaaram Poo
  Chembaruthi
  Chinna Gownder
  Chinnavar
  Devar Magan
  Meera
  Senthamizh Paattu
  Singaaravelan
  Aranmanai Kili
  Atma
  Ejamaan
  Kalaignan
  Kilipetchu Ketkava
  Manikkuyil
  Marupadiyum
  Ponnumani
  Valli
  Walter Vetrivel
  Maha Nadhi
  Priyanka
  Rajakumaaran
  Veera
  Sati Leelavathi
  Vietnam Colony
  Avathaaram
  Chandralekha
  Moha Mull
  Nandhavana Theru
  Raajavin Paarvayile
  Gopura Vaasaliley
  
  
  
  btw,
  > --- This is the biggest joke of the century.
  
  
  
  
• From: x (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Sun Feb 16 09:32:29 EST 2003
  
  btw,
  "--When ARR come to tfm, he change singers often and intorduce new singers regurlarly. After realising that IR copied his style-- "
  --- This is the biggest joke of the century.
  
  
• From: av (@ 132.206.72.96) on: Sun Feb 16 11:31:08 EST 2003
  
  IRs music was never boring or monotonous. Every film he has done is unique and he has the bridged the gap between quality and quantity, western music and indian music like none other. Ilayaraaja is in a totally different class by himself. No other MD can be compared to him. Ilayaraaja's greatest (perhaps) contribution is that he is said to have "Indianised western classical music". This was stated by Hariprasad Chaurasia after the recordings of the "Nothing But Wind" album. It is a sweeping statement to say that his music sucks since mid 80s (and bit insulting IMO). NOM.
  
  
• From: purv (@ 205.231.151.169) on: Sun Feb 16 17:09:48 EST 2003
  
  Guys!!!! You want to know what the truth is??? The truth is, the truth is different from person to person! Some people maintain that 'IR went off the track,' to quote Mr. [Ms.] outsider in another thread, in the late 80s or early 90s, while others maintain that 'it is a myth that IR has lost a step or two' (again, I'm quoting another DFer). Now, I may be showing a shade of hypocrisy in my point, I hope not, but it is all relative. So, anyone who defends IR, or otherwise, can walk away from this forum feeling good that they own their ideas.
  
  btw, X, that is a nice list you made out. :-)
  
  
• From: Ilayarajs's fan (@ 207.253.205.87) on: Sun Feb 16 17:18:54 EST 2003
  
  This thread is based on IR biggest mistake
  PLEASE EVERYONE, make sense, we are here to discuss about the mistakes made by IR, no point getting mad when his mistakes are pin point so if you dont understant the purpose of this forum please dont comment.
  
  
• From: Bala. (@ 4.37.102.100) on: Sun Feb 16 17:37:59 EST 2003
  
  mm.. I happen to c some guys in the threads they are generating a habit of bashing the music genius(Raja) without having any substance on ther side. Its ridiculous.I don't know what do they know about that great man's non stop work for the past 25 years. DO they atleast know what are all his achievemnets. They r telling that he is outdated and he is not using the sophisticated instuments. Really funny.. C.. illiterates he is the one who brought the computer systhesised music in the movie Vikram in mid 80's itself. I don't know whether u guys knwo or not A.R.Rahman's work with Raja for the movie Punnagai Mannan. Even now no other music directors create such a kind of percussion. If u get a chance get the dvd of Chiraisaalai or Hey Ram.. what an amzing bgm with aun international quality. Even u can compare them with the hollywood movies. C when Raja was young he gave shoulder to lot of great directors work.. who were already very dominant in the Industry. The names like Jaaganath, Balachander, K.Viswanath, Sreedhar.. he never gave flops to those legends. He was so sincere to those directors.And moreover its so visible that he always did justice to the young and as well the matured hero's at that time to maintain and improve their image. He gave hands to all the new talent to the industry. Barathiraaja, R.Sundarajan, Rajasekar, Maniratnam, S.P.Muthuraman,Amirjan, Fazil, Balumahendra, Ranagrajan,Gangai Amaran,Bagyaraj,Manivannan,Parthiban.. when they came to the industry. This is like in 80's. Samthing continued in the 90's also. There are lot of directors. Action movie or Village story or art movie or histroical story.. the director's first choice is Raja. U know in 90's Kathir, Priyadahrasan, they managed to get a big entry only bcoz of raja's music. Think about all the other new music directors.. they have done their job very well in sending the great directors home. For instnace Balachander and Barathiraja are already gone and mani is on the way.. there is no need for me to explain what happened with those director's movies and the bgm in their movies.C songs only wont make a movie hit.. songs are only for the 20 mins in a 3 hours movie.But bgm has to tie the people to their seats all through the movie. Now their movies bgm sucks big time.These directors they were doing that job very well when they work with raja.Every other movie of those directors are big hits bcoz of their musical value. o.k leave that... think about the new directors those who come to the industry with lots of dreams.. do they get satisfied with this isai puyal's work. S.. his music is like a storm only... that will come once in a while.. but that won't do anything good for the people. Do u guys remember.. y the movies like pudhiya mugam, pavithra, may madham.. are flops even they have good songs.. bcoz of this guy's funky bgm. Not only that.. c kannathil muthamittal which really needs to describe the pathetic life of the srilankan tamils.. this guy did such a worse work that.. noone gotr the effect.. even that was visualized nicely. But Still Raja.. is doing a great job in giving his strong shoulders to the new talents. Bala, Thangarbachan,A.R.Murugadoss.. and a lot of names to come.. So pls accept the truth... When ur MD is going to really give his hands to help the Directors to give big success then really we believe that he is a music genius.. till then lets leave about talking that guy who is never realted to music..
  
  
• From: Sam (@ 208.134.115.240) on: Sun Feb 16 17:40:10 EST 2003
  
  ilyaraja makes good music but he only had rats and zombies to sing dem. datz his big mistake. but his songs will be saved now. sadhana got his song a national award lizzen to mindblowing julie ganpathi songs sung by shreya.
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Mon Feb 17 05:23:54 EST 2003
  
  To say IR's music is monotonous, one must be extremley thick/stupid/ignorant, but I also have the feeling, that IR followed the footseps of ARR in introducing clowns to sing, hence he has lost out a lot, SPB+IR, KJY+ IR are still a treat for they ears and the soul, same can not be said about the IR + Clowns combination :))
  
  
• From: Vaseegara (@ 203.106.185.157) on: Mon Feb 17 06:41:45 EST 2003
  
  Well, I think that you are a dumb bell.
  Not to mention broken record.
  So your opinion doesn't count.
  
  
• From: x (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Mon Feb 17 08:13:46 EST 2003
  
  bala, that was well said
  
  
• From: K (@ ) on: Mon May 10 23:17:24 EDT 2004
  
  Ilayaraja sucks big time. Thank God and ARR for showing IR his door. He deprived TFM of taste and melody and creativity in most of 80's and 90's except a lucky winner here and there.
  
  
• From: curses (@ 203.101.32.248) on: Tue May 11 00:33:42 EDT 2004
  
  innikku enna "World Thread Revival day"-va?
  
  

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