Topic started by Theepan (@ 209.197.171.58) on Sun May 4 05:35:24 EDT 2003.
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I am sure as you all know that lately, Rahman's songs have not become what they used to be; mega hits. People have different opinions as to why this is the case... please share your thoughts.
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- From: STONE COLD (@ 210.186.79.49)
on: Sat May 10 09:28:02 EDT 2003
I think we should ignore these anti-arr fans.They are jealous....that's all.
Mentally disturbed....i guess.
- From: doubleside (@ 128.148.68.57)
on: Sat May 10 11:18:10 EDT 2003
Hi guys
First find out where is ARR.He is no more in the TF industry.
Very very few no of movie in the recent 5 years and none of them were hit after alaipayuthe.
It is useless to talk what is missing in his music.
We will search first where is ARR.
- From: Theepan (@ 209.197.174.70)
on: Sat May 10 12:12:36 EDT 2003
The last of what i heard about ARR is that he is currently doing the "Unity of light" concert across the globe..
- From: doubleside (@ 128.148.68.57)
on: Sat May 10 14:30:13 EDT 2003
That is the only thing ARR can do now.
He could not compete with the current MD's even with sishyan HJ.
Good luck to ARR.
- From: Wrong Track (@ 65.176.169.91)
on: Sat May 10 16:04:14 EDT 2003
ARR Fans, have you heard - Goods Vandiyiley Oru Paattu Vandhidichu, Athey Ketka Yarumiley, Idam Kaalil Aayidichu...?
- From: purv (@ 205.231.31.172)
on: Sat May 10 19:00:37 EDT 2003
'Very very few no. of movies in the past 5 years and none of them were hit after Alai Payuthe'
Mmm... methinks this statement is questionable. Check it out: the poll says
Udhaya- Good: 81.8%
Kaathal Virus- Good: 71.5%
If these aren't hits, what are they?
- From: xml (@ 128.148.68.110)
on: Sat May 10 20:21:45 EDT 2003
It means this is the vote only by the people who visit to the TFM page website.Not all over the tamilnadu.
By closing eyes the world won't become dark.That is it.
- From: Prabhu (@ 203.124.130.219)
on: Sun May 11 00:20:23 EDT 2003
purvi, that vote on our newtfmpage is a farce, sad to say. The voters are very segmented and does not reflect the real sentiments of tfm.
- From: Are Yaar (@ 203.197.141.186)
on: Mon May 12 06:23:24 EDT 2003
Prabhu :
Great oneliner man.
But I doubt whether you would say the same thing when the poll reflects what you wish to see on the top of the list.
I am I right..?
- From: Are Yaar (@ 203.197.141.186)
on: Mon May 12 06:23:30 EDT 2003
Prabhu :
Great oneliner man.
But I doubt whether you would say the same thing when the poll reflects what you wish to see on the top of the list.
am I right..?
- From: Are Yaar (@ 203.197.141.186)
on: Mon May 12 06:23:45 EDT 2003
Prabhu :
Great oneliner man.
But I doubt whether you would say the same thing when the poll reflects what you wish to see on the top of the list.
am I right..?
- From: Prabhu (@ 203.124.130.219)
on: Mon May 12 09:06:49 EDT 2003
AY, when IR yahoogroups runs into 1000s, should I care a hoot for the votes in a forum frequented by 400+, of whom 300+ must be expats? :)
- From: k (@ 198.85.99.225)
on: Mon May 12 13:17:04 EDT 2003
Isn't that votings are about. For example, in a voting in a general election, the votes just reflect the opinions of those motivated few who went to cast their opinions and may not reflect the opinions of the majority of the population. Whatever yardstick you use in voting, the results are stll going to have the same problem. But these become handy excuses when you do not agree with the results.
- From: ARR fans (@ 128.148.68.110)
on: Mon May 12 22:19:40 EDT 2003
Hi
Why to talk about those useless albums.
ARR albums are like puli(tiger) varuthu(coming) puli varuthu puli varuthu.Finally it will come successfully after few years later and finally it will become super flop.
All the recent flop albums KADAL VIRUS, UDAYA, PARASURAM, supposed to come few years ago.
Waste of our energy to talk about those horrible albums.
- From: Whatever (@ 203.131.109.66)
on: Tue May 13 06:21:31 EDT 2003
Prabhu :
nethi adi.
The one crucial ingredient lacking in ARR's music, IMHO, not just now but all along is continuity. His music seems to be a hotchpotch of different ideas and trains of thoughts. It rarely, if ever, maintains the mood of the song or the scene.
He might be a good pop musician, but as a composer of film music, he just does not understand the medium.
Good luck to him, though. He needs a lot of it.
- From: KSR (@ 137.73.8.176)
on: Tue May 13 07:02:38 EDT 2003
Is YSR the fellow who was walking like a duck or a man who recently had an operation for prostrate cancer in the film Poonagai Poove?
- From: Prabhu (@ 203.124.130.219)
on: Tue May 13 07:58:45 EDT 2003
Why KSR, you wanna dub for him should he act as a duck?
Whatever:
I asked my north indian pals if they think he's india's number one. This was their answer:
"When you say #1, you can comparing him with RDB, SDB, SJ, LP, Salil...Surely you cant place him along the same pedestal as they! His Hindi nos can be categorised 'Musical Chaos', thats what he's riding on all these years."
- From: Paran (@ 203.123.16.106)
on: Tue May 13 08:53:30 EDT 2003
ur North Indian friends, are they
RDB? Asha? Lata? no rite?
then forget it..
- From: Prabhu (@ 203.124.130.219)
on: Tue May 13 09:26:37 EDT 2003
ooooooooooohhh :-) So when idle Brits cast a glance at BD, they're connoisseurs??
BTW can u name some of Asha/Lata's best songs Naatamai avargale and why you like/dislike them? :)
- From: Whatever (@ 203.131.109.66)
on: Tue May 13 22:58:43 EDT 2003
Prabhu:
That is what I meant - it is certainly not cacophony, but there is nothing to hold the music together. I am not saying that North Indian fans have a sounder musical ear than anyone, but it is important to place things in perspective. I personally rate SDB and Salil higher than the other names on your list, but that is just me.
Let me repeat - I do not think that ARR is an awful musician. I quite like a few of his songs - not that anyone really cares if I do not. All that I am saying is that his music lacks the flow that I appreciate and any of his songs can be placed anywhere in a movie without in anyway enhancing or taking away from the scene.
- From: Citizen (@ 12.240.72.64)
on: Wed May 14 00:11:29 EDT 2003
Whatever,
Couldn't agree with you more.. Right on!
- From: naaaaaaaaaaaaan sense (@ 65.176.168.59)
on: Wed May 14 02:19:30 EDT 2003
Prabhu: what is so special about the following mds that Rahman pales in comparison?
Whatever:
I asked my north indian pals if they think he's india's number one. This was their answer:
"When you say #1, you can comparing him with RDB, SDB, SJ, LP, Salil...Surely you cant place him along the same pedestal as they! His Hindi nos can be categorised 'Musical Chaos', thats what he's riding on all these years."
Rahman has got something eaually good otherwise the Hindi audience could not have accepted him. He is not too much like IR and too less like say Jatin-Lalit or the likes. Hndi audience cannot accept IR because he is way beyond their levels, but ARR yes as good as any of the veterans you mentioned. Tell those Northy friends to reconsider their decision which they can if they take a good cold shower.
- From: Jana (@ 202.88.152.184)
on: Wed May 14 02:44:34 EDT 2003
Hi naaaaaaaaaaaaan sense,
This statement is whole wrong "Hndi audience cannot accept IR because he is way beyond their levels". Its IR who failed to capture the northern hearts with his music and not that people didnot have liking to great music. You cannot say Deva is not accepted in the US because he is way beyond their levels but the truth is that he is not capable of giving music to their liking and choice .. the same applies to IR for north india. Inspite of being a great musician he has failed in that aspect..
he probbaly never cared to make a name for himself in bollywood.. had he put half the effort he puts in MR, KB and BR films he would have been no. one long back. If ARR is successfull bcos he has taken that special effort. He learnt the language and marketed himself and his music well. Thats why he is successful .. YOu have top hindi directors like Subash Ghai, Sanjay Leela Bhansali, Raj Kumar Santoshi, Shekar Kapur to name a few waiting to work with him.
- From: x (@ 203.200.195.2)
on: Wed May 14 03:41:54 EDT 2003
Jana:
YOu have top hindi directors like Subash Ghai, Sanjay Leela Bhansali, Raj Kumar Santoshi, Shekar Kapur ---- are all just SHOWMANS, ON AND OFF SCREEN. THEY ARE NOT THAT GREAT AS U THINK OR DIRECTORS OF TFM. SINCE THEY ARE NORTH INDIANS THEY ARE PROJECTED AND IS POPULARISED.
ELSE NOTHING GREAT ABOUT THEM TO SPEAK EXCEPT GOOD FILM SALES PERSONS.
- From: Jana (@ 202.88.152.184)
on: Wed May 14 04:26:26 EDT 2003
Do you say all their movies are of bad quality only because they are northies.. come on yaar give me a break.
I was talking about them wanting to work with ARR cos we were talking about breaking into northern india. If you want to take southies into consideration then ARR surely has the privilege of working with the likes of Mani Ratnam, K Balachander, Bharatiraja, Priyadarshan to name a few. Now would you say even these people are just showman on and off screen.
He has also worked with acclaimed northie directors like Shyam benegal, Govind Nihlani and Deepa Mehta. Just tell me one indian MD who has such a profilic profile. If you run down people for bad things then you should also learn to give credit to people when they deserve.
- From: X-Men (@ 203.197.136.39)
on: Wed May 14 04:31:46 EDT 2003
You call Sanjay leea bhansali, subash ghai a great fim makers. Pathetic!!! Look at devdas, Uh! so unconvincing, yet you call them Great Directors
- From: Prabhu (@ 203.124.130.219)
on: Wed May 14 11:06:48 EDT 2003
naan sense, will answer ur post tomm!
- From: Jana (@ 202.88.152.184)
on: Wed May 14 23:55:20 EDT 2003
X-Men ..please read properly before u jump witha reply .. i never said Sanjay Bhansali is a great director .. what I said was he is among the top directors in bollywood and you cannot dismiss that .. even i didnot like Devdas ..but his effort in Khamoshi was good ..sad it flopped. Also one thing you need to give credit is his sense of music ..which i find really good. His films always had good songs. (Unfortunately Jatin Lalit gave all copied songs in Khamoshi )
Your idea of great movie makers would be probably Satyajit Ray, Mrinal Sen Adoor Gopalkrishnan , Shaji "Piravi" Karun etc. But tell me how many of such movies have you seen.
- From: Kiran (@ 161.142.100.87)
on: Thu May 15 01:02:37 EDT 2003
the HIT charm is missing....Stars are against his brain....
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