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- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Mon May 10 13:05:43 EDT 2004
Thalaikeezh ligithangaL.
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.182)
on: Mon May 10 13:14:29 EDT 2004
sareenga aapeesar :)
aana engeyo 'vigidhangal' nu padicha gnabagam-- are you sure?
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.183)
on: Mon May 10 14:18:34 EDT 2004
bb, inga paaru: ( Hindu-la thaan padicha gnabagam, thedi paarthathula kedachidhu :)
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/mp/2003/07/21/stories/2003072101280100.htm
Of course, I have not read the book; the name may have been wrongly written in the above article.
- From: T (@ 12.33.141.40)
on: Mon May 10 14:53:18 EDT 2004
Another link which says its vigithangal...
http://www.suntimes.co.za/2002/12/22/arts/durban/aned06.asp
- From: SP (@ 65.69.81.2)
on: Mon May 10 15:39:31 EDT 2004
bb,
'ligitham'-naa enna?
vigitham = rate, proportion
- From: SK (@ 199.90.34.67)
on: Mon May 10 16:13:23 EDT 2004
'likitham'naa letter, mail.
'liknaa' is the Hindi[Sanskrit] root word
- From: SK (@ 199.90.34.67)
on: Mon May 10 16:13:54 EDT 2004
'likitham'naa letter, mail.
'liknaa' is the Hindi[Sanskrit] root word
- From: NagaS (@ 61.11.66.46)
on: Tue May 11 00:17:41 EDT 2004
"Thalaikeezh vigithangaL" is the name of the novel :) ... published by Vijaya Pathippagam, Coimbatore.
NagaS
- From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148)
on: Tue May 11 02:05:57 EDT 2004
Song of the Day: kalaiyE en vaazhkkaiyin from meenda sorgam.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/kalaiye.rm
- A classic, sung by A.M.Raja and humming by P.Suseela. Music by T.Chalapathy Rao.
- Lyrics in our PPP page: http://www.newtfmpage.com/ppp/kalaiye.html
- Raagam Bhageshri.
- A.M. Raja - The Melody Maker Who Would Not Compromise: http://www.newtfmpage.com/ppp/amraja.html
- More on this Sridhar movie here: http://www.dhool.com/sotd2/327.html
- From: GCT_Kuil (@ 67.118.0.40)
on: Tue May 11 02:44:36 EDT 2004
My most favorite song. Simply superb!
- From: raj (@ 203.197.142.162)
on: Tue May 11 05:07:10 EDT 2004
a Great Song by AMR & PS
there is a PS Version of this song also
T.Chalapathirao - who can forget his compositions like Then unnum undu !! and songs in Punarjenmam like Endrum thumbamillai etc..
Meenda Sorgam - had Padmini,Gemini in lead.
they both are lovers. Asusual apposed by thangavelu(father of GG) and GG is forced to marry Thambaram Lalitha .
GG is more interested in Padmini's carrer as a dancer..
All songs are Fantastic
other than SOTD,
Thuyiladha pen ondru - AMR,PS (All time FAV)
Mana nattiya medayil - PS a great song!!
Kalaye en vaazhkayil - PS version
Aadum Arul jothi - MLV
Over all a great album - should be Preserved
- From: raj (@ 203.197.142.162)
on: Tue May 11 05:08:54 EDT 2004
Sorry ! Read as Then unnum Vandu!!
- From: Tee (@ 68.86.241.155)
on: Tue May 11 07:37:11 EDT 2004
wow.. nice song. one of my favs..
- From: Raj (@ 208.164.98.89)
on: Tue May 11 10:47:51 EDT 2004
bb: Nice song from my favourite singer. Try to feature a song from the movie 'avan' where he sings some beautiful numbers.
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.11)
on: Tue May 11 12:21:26 EDT 2004
Wonderful song this is! AMR's tender voice (what an opening humming) and the humming taken on to dreamy, soulful heights by PS make it an immortal classic.
Lyrics by Kannadasan, btw.
- From: Udhaya (@ 204.31.169.50)
on: Tue May 11 13:30:05 EDT 2004
Does this song qualify as a ghazal? Specifically the way the tabla is used makes me wonder. Besides being one of the best songs in the list of all the people involved, this is one of the greatest tabla songs ever in TFM.
The singing tone is hard to achieve, it sounds like the voice is in a trance, like when the mind is obsessed with a single quest and the thoughts swirl around it without relief. And what a quest it is, a homage to art itself. "...aRpudha kalaiyE, nI illayEl nAn illayE"! Absolutely true.
- From: rajaG (@ 207.43.195.201)
on: Tue May 11 17:12:54 EDT 2004
http://www.nagpurcity.net/ghazal/ghazal_def.html
Udhaya: It is a love song but it would not qualify as a ghazal. Based on these rules/requirements of the ghazal, oru nalla ghazal ezhudhi ingEyO, amateur thread layO post pOdEn.
- From: Raj (@ 208.164.98.89)
on: Tue May 11 19:30:17 EDT 2004
Udhaya, rajaG: I have seen this question about ghazal in some other threads also. Long time back I was attending a concert by Lakshmi Shankar and somebody in the audience wanted her to sing a ghazal. People laughed realizing that she was not a ghazal singer. I asked my friend,an ezpert in Hindusthani music, sitting next to me about ghazals. He gave an explanation and two rules that I remember:
1. A ghazal (love poem) is made up of several couplets. Usually six or seven.
2. The last phrase/words in the first line of the first couplet must be repeated in the second line.
There are other rules about the rhyme I don't remember. The link given must have it.
Using these two basic rules you won't find many ghazals in Tamil songs .
- From: rosavasanth (@ 157.82.18.234)
on: Tue May 11 22:50:02 EDT 2004
'solla maRantha kathai' is based on the novel of Nanjil Natan, 'thalai keezh vikithangkaL'.
- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ 63.231.161.141)
on: Wed May 12 00:53:10 EDT 2004
Great song !!!! bb, oru request, athE padathhil Suseela ammA pAdiyathu.....'maNa nAttiya mEdayil AdinEn' ....... Songs from 'meeNda sorgam' have luckily not been spoilt by TC Rao's assistant Sathyam, who made it a habit to lift interludes from popular Hindi numbers. !!!
- From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148)
on: Wed May 12 01:20:35 EDT 2004
Song of the Day: aadal paadal from veetukku veedu vaasappadi.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/aadal.rm
- Saravanan writes:
‘aadal paadal kaadhal enbadhu appOdhu’ from veetukku veedu vaasappadi. Sung by S.Janaki. Music by Rajan-Nagendra. Lyrics by Kannadasan.
Director P.Madhavan was so impressed by Navatha Krishnam Raju’s Telugu hit ‘Intinti Ramayanam’ (1978/ Navatha Arts) that he ventured to remake it in tamil. Arun Prasad Movies’ Veetukku Veedu Vaasappadi-1979 starred Vijayakumar, Rathi, Suman, Shobha, Surulirajan & Manorama in the roles played by Chandramohan, Jayasudha, Ranganath, Prabha, Nutan Prasad & Ramaprabha in the Telugu original. Madhavan also retained Rajan-Nagendra as the MDs, for the songs they had composed for the Telugu original had become immensely popular.
A simple tale told in a heartwarming manner, bolstered by some home truths brought home laced with a liberal dose of comedy, ensured a modest success for Veetukku Veedu Vaasappdi too. Vijayakumar, a doctor, falls in love with the rich Rathi, and they get married. Suman and Shobha are the other pair that gets married after falling in love. While Suman and Shobha who enjoyed many a quarrel in their days of courtship, develop perfect understanding after marriage; ego tussles wreak havoc in the Vijayakumar –Rathi marital life. When things come to a head, Vijayakumar and Rathi start living apart. How Suman & Shobha, aided enthusiastically by Surulirajan and Manorama, ingeniously bring about a rapprochement between the estranged pair fills the rest of the reels.
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Rajan & Nagendra were brothers and were prolific composers in Kannada films. Rajan (born 1933) and Nagendrappa (1935- 2000) were born into a musically rich family. Even as children they astounded many trained musicians with their prodigious mastery- Nagendra would create magic on the Jalatharangam, while Rajan’s adroit playing of the violin was legendary. Nagendra made his debut as a singer in B.Vittalacharya’s Srinivasa Kalyana in 1951, and soon the brothers jointly composed music for their first film Sowbhagyalakshmi, followed by Chanchalakumari. From 1952 to 1992, they have adorned over 375 films in Kannada, Telugu, Tamil and Singhalese with their scintillating songs. Nagendra was a talented singer too, though he did not adequately exploit his singing prowess. Their masterpieces in Kannada include Mutthaide
Bhagya, Kulla Agent 000 (in which they roped in none other than Kishore Kumar to render the unforgettable ‘Aadu aatta aadu’) Gaalimaatu, Benkiya Bale, Nyayave Devaru,Chandanada Gombe, Naa Ninna Mareyalaare, Naa Ninna Bidalaare, Giri Kanye ,Bayalu Daari, Paavana Ganga etc; and in Telugu, they are remembered for their songs in films like Pooja, Pantulamma, Raja Rani Jakee, Puli Bebbuli, Maa Intiyina Katha and Vayyari Bhamalu Vagalamari Bharthulu . They have won several awards, including the Karnataka State Award for their work in Eradu Kanasu and Parasangada Gendethimma.
Tfm didn’t deign to encourage their timid overtures, though. Ellorum Vaazha Vendum (1962/ ESRS Pictures), the title may have proclaimed righteously, but Rajan-Nagendra’s songs (save the lone ‘aarambamE inikkum’ by CSJ) found no takers. The indefatigable B.Vittalacharya kept reminding us of the duo, as his many fairy-tale ventures dubbed into Tamil came with R-N’s music- Veeradhi Veeran, Madurai Mannan, Mandhirikumaran, to name a few. Radio Ceylon enthusiastically popularized these songs too—even as late as 1983, I have listened to with wonder ‘Sendu malli maalaiyo singara cholaiyo’ (TMS from Mandhirikumaran)
After a long hiatus, tfm greeted R-N with a greater kindness when Singeetam Srinivasa Rao’s super hit Telugu film Sommokadidhi Sookokadidhi (stg. Kamal, Jayasudha & Rojaramani) was dubbed into Tamil as Iru Nilavugal (1978/ Sri
Balasubramaniam Films). R-N’s songs like ‘thoda varavO thondharavO’ (SPB/SJ), ‘aanandam adhu ennadaa’ (SPB), ‘anbuLLa kaNNanO aNaithaaLa vandhadhO unnai’ (SPB/PS) and ‘ammaadi kaNNai paaru’(SPB/SJ) found themselves repeatedly featured even in the prudish Vividh Bharathi!
Veetukku Veedu Vaasappadi followed in the next year. The enchanting SOTD, the longish VVV by SPB & PS (wherein SPB showed his abundant versatility by alternating between his normal voice for Suman and an appropriately altered tone for Surulirajan), the tantalizingly teasing ‘thOgai kaiyil rEgai suththam’ (SPB & SJ) and the riotous kathakaalatchebam propagating the evils of drink ‘patta kashtam’(where SJ has a blast singing for Manorama) found instant popularity. Strangely, R-N never got to compose for another Tamil film ever. However their compositions found their way into tfm time and again, when other composers sought inspiration from them. For instance S-G deemed it wise to retain R-N’s tunes for the Tamil remake (Auto Raja-1982) of the original Kannada Auto Raja. ‘malarE ennenna kOvam’ was a faithful copy of ‘naliva gulabi hoove’( both by SPB) and ‘Kanni vaNNam rOjappoo’ (SPB/VJ) was a direct lift from ‘nanna aase hannagi’ (SPB/SJ)
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This song featured Suman and Shobha. Though they keep constantly bickering, realization suddenly dawns upon them that they are falling in love with each other. Suman then dreams of them both prancing around trees and romancing in the typical filmi fashion---he gets carried away with his reverie. And as the song ends, we see him attempting an intimate waltz with a highly irate charwoman---he is rudely brought back to reality when that worthy lady soundly thrashes him her broomstick, all the time mouthing some of Madras’s choicest expletives!
This tune was originally composed by R-N as ‘jeeve veene needu’ (SPB/SJ) in the Kannada film Hombisulu (1978/ Nirupama Movies). It boasts of the signature R-N chords, riveting prelude, dreamily flowing interludes that hand over the beginning of the charanams on a silver salver to the singers ---sheer melody
Listen here: http://www.udbhava.com/udbhava/songs.jsp?id=65
R-N must have liked the tune a lot (who wouldn’t!), for they took it to Telugu as ‘veena venu vaina’ (SPB/ SJ again!) in Intinti Ramayanam.
Listen here: http://www.andhravilas.com/moviedetail.asp?fid=%7C63%7C244%7C244
aadal paadal kaadhal doesn’t have SPB, but it has the remarkable SJ winning our hearts with her dulcet voice, dainty embellishments and delightful expressions--
- From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148)
on: Wed May 12 01:25:29 EDT 2004
This song reminds of me of a song from Yaadon Ki Baarat (?) that goes something like 'aapkE kamrE mein kOyi..'.
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