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thiraippAdalgaLil samudhAyak karuththukkaL

Topic started by Kanchana (@ ww-tp05.proxy.aol.com) on Sun Apr 19 11:41:09 EDT 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

TFM boasts of several contemporary poets like Bharadhidhasan, Pattukkottai Kalyanasundaram, Kannadhasan and Vali (Version I) who penned several songs dealing with social issues such as work ethic (uzhaippu), labor rights, women's position in society, religion, caste, patriotism/ nationalism, money/power/greed and the such. In addition, non-film kavidhaigaL from Bharadhi and Bharadhidhasan have been included in TFM to heighten social awareness.
Let's go ahead and discuss some of these songs--old and new--which address some key social issues even as they were entertaining the masses in the context of the movie situation. Please elaborate on the lyrics and your thoughts on the same as your time would allow.

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• From: Kanchana (@ ww-tk06.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Apr 19 23:43:06 EDT 1998
  
  Keerthi:
  Thanks for pitching in. Hope you will continue to contribute as your schedule will allow.
  
  To Topic:
  In Bharadhi's Vision, I'd talked about his uzhavukkum thozhilukkum vandhanai seivOm. Here is a song by Kannadhasan from "pazhani" which talks about the simple pleasures in uzhavu & uzhaippu amidst the green paddy fields.
  
  AROdum maNNil engum neerOdum
  ErOdum endRum namma thErOdum
  pOrAdum vElai illai yArOdum bEdham illai
  oorOdum sErndh(u) uNNalAm
  
  maNNilE thangam uNdu maNiyum uNdu vairam uNdu
  kaNNilE kANach cheyyum kaigaL uNdu vErvai uNdu
  ........
  kai kattich chEvai seidhu kaNgaL kettu uLLam kettu
  poi sollip pichchai petRAl annai boomi kEli seivAL
  thEr koNda mannan Edhu pEr sollum pulavan Edhu
  Er koNda uzhavan indRip pOr seyyum veeran Edhu?
  (There is a poetic verse in the middle of this song, metaphorically addressing the field & the crops, which I edited out for brevity here.)
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ ww-tb03.proxy.aol.com) on: Mon Apr 20 00:07:38 EDT 1998
  
  Keerthi Sir:
  
  1958-il Paanai pidiththavaL bhaagyasaali
  padaththil purushan veettil vaazhap pOgum peNNE
  endru peNgaLukku nalla advise koduththavarum
  indha kavinjarE.
  (Does anyone know the full lyrics for this song?)
  
  
  Enna Sir, ippadi enngalOda abilities-aa insult
  panreenga! :-)))) Indhaanga full lyrics, catch
  pudeenga! (Cricket season paarunga!)
  
  
  ippO 1998-il Paanai pidithavaL Abhagyasaaliyaam! :-)))
  1998-il ippo ellaam, Only Microwave!,
  Dish Washer!, Purushan Cooker & SamayalKaarar!
  and Purushan Washer & Dryer dhaan Bhaagyasaaliyaam!
  
  Adhuvum peNgalukku advice paattukkal endraal
  enakku Lyrics romba nallavae nyabagam irukkum :-))
  
  Padam: PPB
  Padiyavar: Trichy Loganathan
  Lyrics : Sundara vathiyar
  Music: SV Shekar, Oops! sorry, SV Venkataraaman
  Comments mattum dhaan SV Shekar!
  
  
  Purushan veettil vaazha pOgum pONNe
  Thangacchi kaNNe, sila puthimadhigal
  Solluraen kaelu muNNe
  {
  Nee enna aNNe enakku solradhu, Naan unakku
  solraen AnnE, nee Ponnu vettukku vazha
  pOrappO, unnOda pondattikku eppadi Soap poda
  vaendum endru :-)))))
  }
  
  Thangacchi kaNNe, sila puthimadhigal
  Solluraen kaelu muNNe
  
  Arasan vettu ponnaga irundhaalum
  Amma agandhai kolla koodadhu ennalum
  {
  Nee ennadhaan USA-la sambarichaalum
  unakku konjam kooda agandhai irukka koodadhu
  DOVE Soap dhaan eppOvumae use pannanum!
  }
  
  Maamanarai Maamiyarai madhikkanum
  {
  mmkkummm! indha kaalathula enga madhikkuraanga
  sethha sarinnu dhaanae irukkaaanga :-))))
  }
  {
  Indha kalathula irukkum peNgal ippadithaan
  maathi paaduraanga ....
  Maamanaarai Maamiyaari Midhikkanum :-))))))
  Generalla sollalaeppa, approm
  ennai midhikkadheenga! Sila ponnunga nijamavae
  madhikkuraanga!
  }
  
  Unnai maalai itta kanavanaiyae thudhikkanum
  Saama kOzhi koovayilae muzhikkanum
  {
  Inga US-la kaetta "Ennadi! ivvalavu naeram
  thoongaraennu, solraanga, illeenga! saama kozhi
  innum koovalaennu, thaevadhaana indha samudhaya
  karuthu ?
  }
  
  Kulichu saanam pOttu kOlam pOttu samayal vaelai
  thuvakkanum.
  {
  pOndatti:
  Kaalai ezhundhurichu, ennanga! andha fridge-la
  oru kaanju pOna pizza irukku, andha pizza-vai
  Microwave-la heat panni breakfast pannittu..
  Cafeteria-la pOi dollars cheap-aa irukkura oru
  Sandwich sappittuvittu veettu vaangaa! approm
  coffee irundhaa konjam enakku pOttu kuduthuttu
  pOnga Please! enakku thookkam thookkama varudhu!"
  endru solraanga!)
  
  Purushan veettil vaazha pOgum peNNE
  
  Kannal paesum pazhagar(????) munnae nilladhae
  Nee kanadhadhai kandaenunnu solaadhaae
  
  Indha aNNE sollum amudha vaarthai thalladhae
  Namma appaen paattan paerai keduthu kolladhae
  
  Purushan veettil vaazha pOgum pONNe
  Thangacchi kaNNe, sila puthimadhigal
  Solluraen kaelu muNNe ....
  
  Purushan uyirai mettu thandhava ponnudhaan
  Podum pozhudhu angae nimirndhu sonnava ponnudhaan
  (This line I am not sure! sariyaa kaetkkala!)
  
  Arasan nadunga needhi sonnava ponnudhaan
  Avanga Aasthi kanakku sonna karppu onnudhaan
  
  Purushan veettil .....
  
  Very Very fast pace ...... Columbia Space Shuttle
  maadiri paattu parakkudhu .....
  Escape Velocity-aa thappikanumaam!
  (Rewind seidhu seidhu, ennOda Tape recorderukkae
  Moochu vaagivittadhu!)
  
  Purushan kooda nee irundhu, poovum manamum pOl
  magizhndhu, koora selaiyum, thalaiyum manjalum
  kunguma pottu, nagaiyum nattum koranjidamaa
  neranju kuttu, Aaaaa.....
  
  Makkala pethu, Maganaa pethu, makka vaiyathula
  perana pethu, paeran vayathula pullaiya pethu
  nOi illama, nOdi illama, nooru varusham vazha
  pOra thagacchi, namakku saaami thunai irukku
  thangachi, namakku saami thunai irukku thangachi.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Apr 20 04:48:53 EDT 1998
  
  Bhaskar:
  
  ParavaayillayE! niRaya (migap) pazhaya paadalgaL nallaa therinju
  vachchirukkeenga?
  
  Kanchana:
  
  Sari, Udumalai Narayana Kavi-in paadalgaLai thodarattumaa?
  madhu vilakku patri Vidhayapathy endra padaththil:
  
  aadu raattE suzhandraadu raattE
  suga vaazhvu vandhadhendru aadu raattE
  kaLLu beer saaraayam kaama vagaigaL ketta
  kanjaa abhiniyellaam Odi ozhikka
  piLLai kutti peN jaathi vayiRaaRu uNNa
  petradhE sudhandhiram endraadu raattE
  
  
  1957-il Enga Veettu Mahalakshmi padaththil samudhaayap paadalondru:
  
  naattukku poruththam naamE nadaththum
  koottup paNNai vivasaayam - patta
  paattukku thagundha aadhaayam uNdu
  pazhaya koLgaigaLai viduvadhu njaayam
  
  College padippu Coffee aaththudhaam
  BA padippu Bench-u thudaikkudhaam
  aaLai Echchu aaLu poLaikkudhaam
  anjukku reNdu kanjikku alaiyudhaam
  mElE sonnadhu nooththilE oNNaam
  
  
  peN endraal eppadi irukkaNum endru ivarum oru paadal
  paadiyirukkiRaar; MGR, KRVijaya nadiththa Vivasaayi padaththil
  
  ippadiththaan irukka vENdum pombaLai
  ingileeshu padiththaalum inbath thamizh naattilE
  
  (This is a nice simple song; anyone knows the full lyrics?
  Bhaskar, want to try?)
  
  Enga Veettu Mahalakshmi padaththukkaaga udumalai kavi ezhudhiya
  ip paadal padu famous. kaNavan wants to leave RURAL and go URBAN.
  manaivi says: maamaa, vENdaam, adhu romba dangerous!
  
  pattaNandhaan pOgalaamadi pombaLE
  paNam kaasu thEdalaamadi - nalla
  kattaaNi muththE en kaNNaatti neeyum
  vaadi poNdaatti thaayE
  
  Town pakkam pOgaatheenga - maappiLLai
  Down-aagi pOyiduveenga - andha
  daambeegam Ezhaikku thaangaadhu - payaNam
  vENdaamunnaa kELu maamaa
  
  
  ivar Raththa KaNNeer-ukku ezhudhiya kutram purindhavan
  vaazhkkaiyil nimmadhi paadalai maRakka mudiyumaa?
  
  Kavi Kaa. Mu. Sheriff ezhudhiya oru nalla samoogak
  karuththuLLa paadal: paNam pandhiyilE guNam kuppaiyilE
  pointing the ills caused by money! (ivardhaan ThiruviLayaadal
  padaththil varum paattum naanE bhaavamum naanE endra
  paadalai ezhudhinaar enbadhu 99% makkaLukku theriyaadhu;
  even on record, the credit for this song is given to K'dhasan;
  adhu APNagarajan seydha thiruviLayaadal.)
  vaazhndhaalum Esum thaazhndhaalum Esum paadalum
  ivar ezhudhiyadhE.
  
  Marudhakaasi vivasaayaththai uyarththi iraNdu nalla
  paadalgaL ezhudhiyirukkiRaar:
  
  Er munaikku nEr ingE edhuvumE illai (PiLLaikkaniyamudhu)
  
  maNappaaRai maadukatti maayavaram Eru pootti
  vayakkaattai uzhudhu pOdu chinnaakkaNNu (M.P.Makaraasi)
  
  More later...
  
  
• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Apr 20 04:51:42 EDT 1998
  
  closing boldface
  
  
• From: Manisekharan (@ bat-49-79.tm.net.my) on: Mon Apr 20 05:50:14 EDT 1998
  
  Sabash Kanchana for topic!
  
  Can we exhaust the songs of Bharathi before going to songs by others? Talking about Barathi's songs we have to pay our tribute, MUTHAL MARIYATHAI to AVM Chettiyar who enabled the nationalisation of the rights of Barathiar's songs. The original rights were held by a gramaphone record company called Surajmal & Sons which purchased the rights for Rs 600. AVM bought the rights from them for Rs 10,000 and used the songs in Naam Iruvar, Vethala Ulagam, Ore Iravu, Vazhkai etc. On a request he gave away the rights free to the government.
  
  The success of the songs lie not merely in the entertainment they generate but the impact it creates in society. There was a querry as to what extent the songs of Barathiyar had brought about realization in the hearts and minds of the Tamil society. To a small extent it has worked. But to a large extent it has fallen into the deaf ears. How about these?
  
  1.Vaaichollil Mattum Veerarkal (From Kappalottiya Thamizhan)
  
  Nenjil Uramuminri
  Nermai Thiramum INdri
  Vanchanai Cholvaradee-Kiliyey
  Vaichollil Veeraradee!
  
  Uppendrum Seeniyendrum
  ULnaattu Selai Endrum
  Seppith Thirivaradee-Kiliyey
  Seivathariyaradee!
  
  Achamum Pedimaiyum
  Adimai Chirumathiyum
  UchathiR Kondaradee!-Kiliyey
  Oomai Chanangaladee!
  
  Sontha Sagotharkal
  Thunbathil Saathal Kandum
  Chinthai iRangaradee-Kiliyey
  Semmai Marantharadee!
  
  (Has the situation changed now?)
  
  2. ANJAMAI DRAVIDAR URIMAIYADA(Parasakthy)
  
  Nenju Porukkuthillaiyey!-Intha
  Nilai Ketta Manitharai Ninainthuvittaal
  
  Anji-anji Chaavar-Ivar
  Anjatha Porulillai Avaniyiley
  Vanjanai Peigalenbaar-Intha
  Marathilenbaar, Antha Kulathilenbaar
  Thunjuthu Mugattilenbaar-Miga
  Thuyarppaduvar, Enni Payappaduvaar
  
  Kanji Kudippatharkilaar-Athan
  Kaaranangal Ivai Enrum Arivumillaar
  Panjamo Panjamenrey-Nitham
  Parithavithey Uyir Thuduithudithu
  Thunji Madiginrarey-Ivar
  Thuyarkalai Theerkkavor Vazhiyumillaiyey!
  
  3. A great poet of later days was very much distressed, disheartened and disturbed by the then prevailing situation in Tamilnaadu. He said that had Barathiyaar been alive at that material point of time he would have reworded his poem as follows:
  
  Senthamizh Naadennum Pothiniley
  Oru theL vanthu kottuthu kaathiniley
  Engal Manthirimaar Enra Pechiniley
  Kadal Mannum Parakkuthu Beachiniley
  
  (The poet's lamentation was that politicians had changed the course of Barathi' dream for Baratha Desam)
  
  4. Again some narrow minded politicians again politicised the song scene in Kai Kodutha Deivam.
  In that film Shivaji Ganesan is portrayed as Bharathi in a dream scene. The song is Sinthu Nathiyin Misai Nilaviniley. In this song there is a line which goes:
  
  Singala Theevinukkore Paalam Amaippom
  Sethuvai Meduruthi Veethi Samaippom
  Vangathil Odi Varum Neerin Migaiyaal
  Maiyathu Naadugalil Payir Seiguvom.
  
  In this scene a model of India connecting Sri Lanka by a bridge is shown. This was twisted by some politicians as a deliberate attempt to instill in the minds of the Indians the desire to conquer Sri Lanka. The film caused a lot of agitaion in Sri Lanka. But poor Bharathi had the greater interest of the entire Tamil race as a whole.
  
  5.
  Aayutham Seivom
  Nalla Kaakitham Seivom
  Aalaikal Vaippom
  Kalvichaalaikal Vaippom
  Oyuthal Seiyom Thalai Saayuthal Seiyom
  UNmaikal Solvom Pala Vanmaikal Seiyom
  
  From the dailies we learn that Aayutham Seithal is rampant, Thalai Saayuthal at the feet is also common but what is the status of industrialisation, and educational institutions?
  
  6. Jathikal Illayadi Paappa
  
  Has the cancerous disease of caste discrimination been reduced to a large extent? But the emphasis had not been strong enough, according to a talk given by a politician cum literary figure. According to him, Barathi should have said:
  
  Jaathikal Illai Uthai Paappa
  Jaathikal Illai aRai Paappa
  Jaathikal Illai kuthu Paappa
  
  
  In my humble opinion Barathi's dream has materialised in certain aspects. One is the emancipation of women modelled after "Matherthammai Adimai Seiyum Madamaiyai Kozhuthuvom" The other is of course "Themathura Thamizh Osai Paarengum Paravum Vagai Cheivom"
  
  The London based BBC and of late the TFMDF is already fulfilling the dream of the greatest of the Pulavan in recent times.
  
  

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