Topic started by bb (@ 24.4.254.104) on Tue Feb 20 03:21:22 EST 2001.
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- From: Prabhu (@ 210.214.5.5)
on: Wed Feb 5 21:16:01 EST 2003
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- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74)
on: Wed Feb 5 23:10:14 EST 2003
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- From: s0 (@ 63.246.174.208)
on: Wed Feb 5 23:16:35 EST 2003
bb: sent you a mail just now.
- From: Lollu Party (@ 61.6.38.132)
on: Wed Feb 5 23:54:23 EST 2003
Well, I have given an idea to Admin. Henceforth, there will be no more need for PayPal. :)
- From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52)
on: Thu Feb 6 01:23:42 EST 2003
Song of the Day: paarthEn sirithEn from veera abhimanyu.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/paarthen.rm
- MD: KVM. Sung by P.B.Srinivas and P.Suseela. Raagam Sahana (the best song in this raagam!). Lyrics by Kannadasan.
- Lyrics in our PPP page: http://www.newtfmpage.com/ppp/paarththen.html
From: pal (@ spider-tf033.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Sep 19 09:51:00 EDT 1999
The song from VEERA ABHIMANYU goes like this waiting for your views.
Bhoori! I am pal(not pala). Really worth reading what you hv written. Good analysis. May be you can try this song also by changing 'then' with 'thai'. Your views are welcome.
M: Paarthen sirithen pakkathil azhaithen
Anru unaithen ena naan ninaithen
Andha malaithen idhuvena malaithen.
F: Paarthen sirithen pakkam vara thudithen
Anru unaithen ena naan ninaithen
Andha malaithen ivarena malaithen.
M: Kodithen iniengal kudithen
Ena oru padi then paarvaiyil kudithen
Thuli then sindhamal kalithen
Oru thuli then sindhamal kalithen
Kaigalil anaithen azhaginai rasithen
F: Malarthen pol naanum malarnthen
Unakkena valarnthen paruvathil mananthen
Eduthen koduthen suvai then
Inithen illadhapadi kadhai mudithen
Some beauty of it. The song uses 'then' as ending for most of the words. Same word 'malaithen' is used with two different meanings in the same line. Truly a KD gimmick. Padithen, suvaithen should be read as 'padi then' and 'suvai then'.
Apart from that there are no word plays. But another beauty of the song is The last stanza which is sung by a female. If someone can think what he is meaning in it, Really you will fall for his simple words.
- Songs in Sahana Raagam: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/984.07.57.12.html
- From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52)
on: Fri Feb 7 00:48:58 EST 2003
Song of the Day: padaiththaanE brahma dEvan from ellOrum nallavarE.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/padai.rm
- A great song to get into the weekend mood. Excellent rendition by SPB. MD: V.Kumar. During my school days, I used to start singing this song, and somehow, in the charanam, used to shift off to the charanam of "dheivam thantha veedu" :)
I don't see much discussion on this song. I couldn't even find out who the lyricist was.
- ellOrum nallavarE also had "sivappu kallu mookkuththi"(TMS) and "pagai koNda uLLam" (KJY).
- "Padhinaaru beckons" - A thread : http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/7528.05:36:36.html
- Thread on V.Kumar : http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/22043.17.57.10.html
- From: Lollu Party (@ 61.6.38.132)
on: Fri Feb 7 01:44:39 EST 2003
Ellorum Nallavare - The end of an Era!
This movie was produced by Gemini Studios.
In 1939 S.S. Vasan bought a distribution and financial concern at an auction, and renamed it Gemini Pictures (also known as Gemini Studios). After S.S. Vasan's death in 1969, his son S.S. Balasubramanyam took the reins and produced Ellorum Nallavare in 1975. This movie was not successful. The studio's fortunes declined in the 70s and was taken over subsequently by Anand Cine Services.
I think Pagai konda ullam was written by Puthumai Pithan.
- From: cinema virumbi (@ 203.197.220.211)
on: Fri Feb 7 05:43:53 EST 2003
Friends,
'ellorum nallavare': This Gemini Tamil version was based on some Kannada original, whose director was thanked by the large hearted SS Balan in the Tamil credits . I think Gemini even went in for a Hindi version, portions of which I watched on DD. Manjula was the heroine in Hindi also (perhaps her only HF venture!), with Jeevan playing the cruel moneylender (Major in Tamil???)
I vaguely remember another song 'Emmaa kaNNu, vaammaa poNNu...' There's a scene where elephants troop in in dozens! Kumudam had commented
'adEngappa! evvaLavu yaanai?!! auvaiyaar kadan koduththaaraa?!!'
- From: !@$ (@ 199.50.29.40)
on: Fri Feb 7 09:24:30 EST 2003
There is another nice song in the movie sigappukallu mookuthi.
I saw the film when I was 5-6 years old and I remember I was very impressed by the flood scenes in the climax...
- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Fri Feb 7 13:00:19 EST 2003
Who acted in the picturization of "padaithaanE brahma dEvan"?
- From: sk (@ 202.156.2.7)
on: Fri Feb 7 18:10:46 EST 2003
bb:
Muthuraman-Manjula first night song.
- From: Udhaya (@ 66.81.135.33)
on: Fri Feb 7 21:33:55 EST 2003
Another unrecognized V.Kumar gem. Pulamaippithan is the lyricist. "Unnai Ravi Varman kaanaamal poanaanadi, andha rathi maaran kandaalum tholaindhaanadi" used to make me smile. There ought to be a whole wing for Pulamaippithan if they ever build a palace for the unrecognized.
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Sat Feb 8 03:55:28 EST 2003
the Kannada actor who played Major s son was "Lokesh" i think.I also vaguely remember the father carrying dead son ..or something like that.(Pagal Nilavu ...)
The songs were in the top ten particularly "Segappu kaalu".But this one SPB in his "Vetri meethu vetri""Pottu vaitha mugamo"-voice is superb.Surprsingly you do not hear VK s regular piano/xylophone in all the songs.
I would also place "Iraivan endroru Kavignan avan padaitha kavithai manithan"by SPB in the same league.
As mentioned the flood scenes were the much talked about ones in the movie.
After Gemini changed hands when it was owned by Mr.Palaniappan ( i think) they produced "Janani" with Netaji and music by MSV.The song "Mannikka Maataya"by KJY was popular.
- From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52)
on: Sat Feb 8 14:30:32 EST 2003
Thanks, Guys. Udhaya, you are right, the lyrics by Pulamaippiththan is quite good.
- From: :)punnahai (@ 24.150.35.51)
on: Mon Feb 10 19:19:40 EST 2003
enna bb rendu naalaa padaithanelaya ukkandhirukkrapla theriyudhu. Padaithane, song of the weekaa? :))
- From: Kupps (@ 203.199.209.101)
on: Mon Feb 10 22:32:50 EST 2003
illa padaiththaanae is song of the weak (hearted, towards beautiful woman) ;-)
- From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52)
on: Tue Feb 11 01:11:26 EST 2003
Song of the Day: moganap punnagai from vaNangaamudi.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/mogana.rm
Vicky gave an excellent commentary on this song in the Old Songs thread.
From: Vicky (@ 12.89.172.154) on: Sat Nov 30 21:09:54 EST 2002
The saying goes..."Its like finishing a fulfilling dinner with "Cognac". Well..... I am referring to a masterpiece of composer G Ramanathan which is faded past into our memories. Its not the compelling music of GR that elevates the song, but, its the always dutiful and mesmerising voice of PS. T M Sounderajan also plays a secondary role in this creative attempt lending a hand to GR thereby creating a tranquil soundscape.
"Mohana Punnagai" from the movie "Vanangamudi", a highly colorful and aromatic piece suited to popular taste of that time. Not a single bar of music is borrowed. Its a priceless heritage of GR and PS. If one is destined to devote most of one's life to playback singing, one can start in no better way than by being born with the beautiful voice of "P Susheela", with her clear connotations of singing.
To me this is a dialogue song of the responsorial type, like "Bailero", a french folk song of Marie-Joseph Canteloube. In the early era of film making, no one has cared so passionately than GR in infusing classical raw material into his orchestral works. That's his genius. His melodies (to name a few...Kanvazhi Pugundhu, Ulavum Thendral Katrinilae, Thensuvai Mevum [a piano interlude in between], Ullam Rendum Ondru, Manamohana) cannot be quantified by complex metrics, but rather they are contemporary fluid pieces with strong regular rhythmic patterns. How did he do that? Enough now of GR's musical achievements.
In this song, GR, PS & TMS establish a great rapport. PS with a natural temperament in her voice takes on the enormous responsibility of carrying this timeless masterpiece on her vocal chords. Did GR envision this act of betrayal? May be he did...and became a silent spectator witnessing an emerging skill of PS's absorption of music like the grandiose great operas and a southern passion for naturalness. It was a strange relationship indeed which lasted over a period of seven years. PS was a valuable help to his music. PS got trained in GR's works as it was as spontaneous and vivacious as any other composition of its period.
Scored with a perfect traditional balance of woodwind and percussion and with slowest tempo, PS in GR's mentioned compostion employs a equal harmonic restraint and conveys a mood of joyful insouciance. However, the middle section of the music is kept quite simple. GR's playful woodwind exoticism also has a conservative touch, not to parallel his earlier masterpieces since 1940's.
PS made conscious efforts and moved away from established patterns, quite significant for that era. If a emerging playback singer like PS receives an offer with all the riches and promises, one does'nt ignore it. Its an opportunity which paid off..for which she will remain thankful.
PS's cooler rusticity only emerges later. With astonishing alacrity, PS created her own opportunity. She did make a favorable impression as a versatile playback singer on GR and which won her a lasting reputation. GR's copious compositions and PS's rendering have survived the test of time.
For a listener, "Mohana Punnagai" implies an ancient song of rustic character and its accompanying dance. But for a devoted pupil, it was a vital art-music based on nationalist sources. PS's voice supplants the percussion with its dynamic range and acquiring overriding importance as the only playback artiste in that masterpiece song. Listen to it.....Once there, we hear no lyrical themes as such, only the brilliant hymn of P Susheela.
- From: :)punnahai (@ 24.150.35.51)
on: Tue Feb 11 10:11:12 EST 2003
When I read Mohana Punnahai, I thought it was the one by KJY which I love.
Never heard this song before, but sounds good :) Who is the male lead?
Thanks.
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