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Vani Jayaram's songs

Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
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I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)

"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."

Wow! Beautiful voice!

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VaniJayaram.com - A site that has lots of info and songs of VJ.

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• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Wed Jul 2 11:26:53 EDT 2003
  
  Naaz
  Jaaliga jaabilamma is, as you said, another lullaby-kind of a song. The lyrics of that song are heartrending. The pathos in that song floods you alongwith those amazing renditions of VJ and KSC. And of course, KVM (and his executive Pugazhendi) has to be lauded for this amazing album.
  
  SPB's song that you mentioned is Sangeetha saahithya samalankruthae meaning the one who is equally well ornamented with sangeethama and sahithyam (the lyricist is describing Goddess Saraswathi). SPB surely reminds us of SBharanam. I didn't know SB had a malayalam version.
  
  
• From: av (@ 132.206.73.163) on: Wed Jul 2 11:30:58 EDT 2003
  
  But the malayalam version I think retained the original songs in Telugu?
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Wed Jul 2 11:56:04 EDT 2003
  
  Kaumudi -
  Am so sorry for the caffeine-deprivation bloopers in my previous post -
  Jabila should have been Jaliga and Kamalam should have been samalan...Now I have my coffee pot right beside me - I am fully awake!!
  
  Pugazhendhi is renowned and respected for his arrangements. He was KVMs right-hand man for so many decades. He also composed for a film or two.
  His score for the tamizh film "Thavam" had two fine songs by VJ - "Sogamae Vazhkaiyin Ragama?" and "Endhan Kannin Maniye Vaa."
  The film though bored the daylights and nightlights out of you! :-(
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 210.214.4.97) on: Wed Jul 2 12:25:46 EDT 2003
  
  A trailer on Asianet shows its SPB this Fri nite. So is the series on VJ concluded on asianet???
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.8) on: Thu Jul 3 02:47:36 EDT 2003
  
  Friends, if you remember, while dwelling on VJ's songs in 1975, I had mentioned a bit song from Apoorva Ragangal.
  
  The situation is this:
  
  The famed singer MR Bhairavi (Srividya) gives shelter to a young rebel Prasanna (Kamal) who is on the run.
  
  Srividya hums a few swaras while bathing, when Kamal, who is seated in his room, responds with the mirudangam. Surprised, she continues singing. Then, still singing,she somes out, to see who is playing the mirudangam.
  
  Here's the link for this bit:
  
  
  
  http://in.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/nat_saravanan/vwp2?.tok=bcqfzzRB1q8CrcY7&.dir=/&.dnm=apoorva+ragangal.mp3&.src=bc
  
  Yes, Prabhu- the VJ episodes came to an end last Friday.
  
  
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Thu Jul 3 08:39:32 EDT 2003
  
  Saravanan -
  
  This is a find! Thank you for the link to this brief but exquisite interlude. Such felicity in VJs swaras - highs and lows touched and scaled with marvellous ease! Was the mridangam work in the film by some well-known artiste? Percussion was such an integral part of the whole movie - it can be described as a "character."
  A beautiful marriage of swaram and rhythm.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Thu Jul 3 09:53:51 EDT 2003
  
  I thought this might be of interest to the participants of this forum. It concerns Gita Govindam and is posted by somebody who seems like a sanskrit scholar. Thanks to the Mohana Rao - and I hope there is no objection to posting this rejoinder in this thread:
  
  Begin Quote:
  
  From: "J. K. Mohana Rao"
  Date: Tue Jan 7, 2003 3:19 pm
  Subject: Re: [racchabanda] gItagOvindam
  
  
  "vemurione " wrote:
  
  > Why is it that most of the singers are from the South - with one
  > possible exception from Orissa? Are the ashTapadis more popular in
  > the South? None from Hindi-speaking areas?
  
  That is not true. geetagOvinda is sung all over India. jayadeva was
  born in kenduli (also known as kindubilva, tindubilva, bindubilva). Like
  so many place names in India, there are two villages with the name
  kenduli, one in Bengal and another in Orissa. That is why both
  Bengalis and Oriyas claim jayadeva as their own. In the temples
  of Jagannath (Puri) and kRshNa (guruvaayoor in Kerala), even
  today geetagovinda songs are sung and danced to. That is why
  we have the two recensions. In fact, it is recommended in books
  the ragas that the ashtapadis must be set to. Thorugh the
  Kuchipudi school, the aandhra region got involved in geetagOvinda.
  The Oriya school did a lot in the last fifty years to bring this
  geetagOvinda art to the forefront. Their dance masters
  like Kelucharan Mahapatra, dancers like Sanjukta and
  Madhavi, singers like Raghunath (did he sing in telugu
  movies like jayabheri and ilavelupu?) and Kundu are indeed
  very well known and well recognised. The songs of
  Vani Jayaram were all learnt under an Oriya guru.
  Her Sanskrit pronunciation is really faultless. When I go
  to India the next time, I must by this gem. She said in
  a recent interview, in an answer to my question, that
  she is in the process of going back to orissa and doing
  a few more recordings of ashtapadis.
  
  In India, the ashtapadis are sung according to individual local
  traditions in Bengal, Manipur, Orissa, Kerala (Mohinyattam),
  other southern states. Even in Punjab geetagovinda is sung
  as some ashtapdis influenced the Sikh guru gobind singh.
  In fact, this diversity may be preceived in the multimedia
  project undertaken by the Indira Gandhi National Centre
  for Arts in which a particular song, say yahi madhava,
  is sung and danced to by different schools. Ranjit Makkuni,
  a researcher at Xerox, was responsible for this. This
  project won many awards. The clippings may be downloaded
  and watched on the media player. It will take nearly four
  hours to watch all these! At the moment the following
  ashtapadis are covered: kuruyadunandana, yahimadhava,
  pashyatidishidishi, dheerasameere, haririhamugdha and
  lalitalavangalata. The url for the website is:
  http://ignca.nic.in/gita.htm
  
  The Sanskrit pronunciations also vary from region to
  region. In the south, La-kaara is frequently used
  (muraLi, vyaaLa, etc.). There is no La-kaara in
  Sanskrit. Whereas the Bengali and Oriya singers
  use banamali for vanamaali, in telugu, the word
  kaLaebara (instead of kalaevara) is used. Unfortunately,
  many good singers like Nityasree and Chitra have sung
  some ashtapadis melodiously, but with a terrible diction!
  Do not forget, of course, the dashaavataara of MS,
  a marvellous singing excercise (in the pancharatnamaala).
  Also, in some of the south Indian versions, additional
  words not in the original like raadhe, kRshNa are added
  for musical facility. To me sometimes, this becomes
  jarring.
  
  I forgot to mention yesterday that there is a book
  entitled: "The Indian Song of Songs" by Edwin Arnold, which
  is a translation of geetagovinda. Long ago, I bought this
  together with the "Light of Asia" by the same author
  as a Jaico pocket book and I still have it!
  
  That much for my two cents worth :) Regards!
  
  J K Mohana Rao"
  
  End Quote.
  
  
• From: yvs mani (@ 164.100.193.40) on: Fri Jul 4 00:12:46 EDT 2003
  
  saw "oru kai paarpom" by visu, karthik, radha and music by vijayabaskar
  There were 3 songs by VJ
  1. for silk - oru pakkam marunthu oru pakkam virunthu
  2. duet with MV for visu * radha - thottu thottu paarkkanum thoana thoannu pesanum
  3. duet with spb for karthik * radha - something like nalliravil
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Fri Jul 4 09:35:25 EDT 2003
  
  Naaz
  Thanks for that excerpt. I didn't you visit "Raccabanda" too. This guy Mohana rao is a regular contributor in that forum and has contributed a lot of poetry and prose related to literature.
  
  In any case, I agree that we, particularly in Andhra, add the La-kara in many of the sanskrit words - perhaps this was done in an effort to Telugu-ise those words, ages ago. But as the author says this La-kara is not used in day-to-day sanskrit. I asked my Sanskrit teacher regarding this issue. She tells me that although La-kara is not used nowadays, this existed many centuries ago when our puranas and Upanishads were written.
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Fri Jul 4 09:36:23 EDT 2003
  
  Typo: I didn't KNOW you visit "Raccabanda" too.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Fri Jul 4 10:11:47 EDT 2003
  
  Kaumudi -
  
  It's the curiosity of language thing that takes me to all these groups...I had read the piece by Mr(?) Rao and had let it slip sometime ago. I was doing a search for translations of Gita Govindam. Recently, somebody forwarded the same MR piece to me. I thought it might be of interest for those who value language and want to make connections about evolutions and influences. I am glad you found it to be interesting. My sanskrit grasp is just so-so (mostly self-taught through etymology and "associative" links) and I am very curious about this language - the root of so many dazzling boughs and branches.
  
  (As an aside I find this really hilarious: pannini is form of sanskrit grammar. In Italy, it is a relished bread!! :-))
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.8) on: Sat Jul 5 07:51:29 EDT 2003
  
  Naaz-
  
  I was sure you'll enjoy that short Apoorva Ragangal bit. I will try to upload more such rare VJ songs soon.
  
  Thanks for that interesting piece. I remember seeing this gentleman J K Mohana Rao's name a long time back in this thread as well.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Sat Jul 5 10:02:17 EDT 2003
  
  Saravanan -
  
  I look forward to the rare song links...whenever you choose to share them. But I hope they don't turn out to be substitutes for your meticulous VJ chronology...which I look forward to more with every passing day.
  
  I just heard the TMS-VJ duet "Ahhh Sugam Sugam Idhu Naan Suvaiththu Rasippadhu, Thaen Pazham Pazham Idhu..." VJ pours such urgent secrets into the word "sugam..." with the intoxicated "aah..."
  Such tingle!
  
  
• From: RR (@ 203.199.213.3) on: Sun Jul 6 22:31:52 EDT 2003
  
  Naaz, Saravanan,: I was tuned to the AIR recently and tehy announced a song from "Ore vaanam Oree Bhumi" sung by VJ. I was expecting the popular"Malai Raani" but instead came the beautiful "Mangala Poo Mazhai", a song which I had totally forgotten. It appears to have all the good things about the MSV-VJ combination.
  Also, another song of VJ with SPB - Nalla Naalum Pozhuduma... I do not know the movie but music appears to be by SG. Can any of you throw some light on this?
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.230) on: Mon Jul 7 14:42:28 EDT 2003
  
  Yes, RR, though 'Malai rani mundhanai' was the smash hit from the film, 'Mangala poo mazhai' has its own quiet yet evocative charm. The situation is when KRV arranges the wedding of her younger sister, when she is herself is unmarried due to the family's precarious financial position. She looks wistfully at the manamedai on the eve of her sister's wedding, and dreams of the day when she herself would be a bride. VJ brings forth all these suppressed yearnings so imaginatively.
  
  Regarding the other song you mention 'Nalla naalum pozhuthuma'- can you tell the next few lines? It sounds familiar, but I'm not able to place it :-(
  
  

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