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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: Bharath (@ 202.54.11.72) on: Sat May 24 01:25:38 EDT 2003
  
  (@ 195.217.141.65)
  
  OK! I KNOW that bedazzled ccame after ESK. I posted the info in 2000 itself.
  
  the spanish song that comes in bedazzled is an old one.. much older ..like 1980's..
  
  -bharath
  
  
• From: joe (@ 211.28.96.9) on: Sat May 24 10:37:17 EDT 2003
  
  apadi podu barath.. ithu point!
  
  
• From: joe (@ 211.28.96.9) on: Sat May 24 10:37:34 EDT 2003
  
  apadi podu barath.. ithu point!
  
  
• From: dhana (@ 128.148.68.57) on: Sat May 24 15:57:58 EDT 2003
  
  Any way
  
  Jumbalakka is a copy of IR's maveeran song which came in 1987.
  
  
  
• From: vikky (@ 210.210.34.141) on: Sun May 25 02:49:08 EDT 2003
  
  Pl.Checkout the IR Movies List.
  http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4424/list2.html
  
  
• From: vikky (@ 210.210.34.141) on: Sun May 25 02:49:13 EDT 2003
  
  Pl.Checkout the IR Movies List.
  http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4424/list2.html
  
  
• From: dinesh (@ 210.186.42.66) on: Sun May 25 03:38:03 EDT 2003
  
  A.R.Rahman already told all people that jumbalakka is a spanish song in one of his interview even b4 the audio released!!didint u know??
  
  
• From: true (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Sun May 25 15:07:56 EDT 2003
  
  That is because spanish people will not come from spanish to kick him.
  It is like IR did not go to spanish to kick them for copied his maveeran song.
  But if ARR accept that he copied from maveeran song then tamilnadu people will kick him.ARR is very clever.Keep it up ARR.
  
  
• From: (@ 217.40.204.177) on: Mon May 26 09:31:00 EDT 2003
  
  so you are saying that IR copied the Maveeran song from the Spanish? Is that the conclusion?
  
  
• From: (@ 217.40.204.177) on: Mon May 26 09:34:12 EDT 2003
  
  Songs in Maaveeran
  
  http://www.raajangahm.com/ric/film/FL000370.html
  
  No song called Vangada vanga en vandikku pinnale as quoted by dhana below!
  
  From: dhana (@ 128.148.68.57) on: Tue May 20 14:07:11 EDT 2003
  
  
  Jumbalakka is copied from IR's song Vangada vanga en vandikku pinnale from the movie maveeran.
  
  
• From: (@ 217.40.204.177) on: Mon May 26 09:35:32 EDT 2003
  
  Maveran Songs available on:
  
  http://www.geocities.com/ajayprabbhu/ilaiyaraja1.html
  
  
• From: dhana (@ 128.148.68.57) on: Mon May 26 09:46:09 EDT 2003
  
  Hi
  I have seen the movie maveeran.
  
  Three time I have seen the movie in theatre.
  
  The song vangada vanga en vandikkupinnale is the first song of the movie.Rajni will be riding in a chatr with horse for the song.The same style was used in muthu oruvan oruvan muthalali.
  
  The spanish song is came after maveeran and just before the En swasa katre.
  
  The velai movie MD YSR came in 1998.One song kunnooru poochatti is copied by ARR in parasuram.That is DOLNA.Parasuram came recently.
  
  
• From: dhana (@ 128.148.68.57) on: Mon May 26 13:35:45 EDT 2003
  
  Hi
  checkout the song othungu othungu.
  
  That is jimbalakka.
  
  
• From: (@ 217.40.204.177) on: Mon May 26 16:45:13 EDT 2003
  
  so the question Dhana is, What is the Spanish song that was copied from IR?
  
  
• From: (@ 217.40.204.177) on: Mon May 26 16:46:34 EDT 2003
  
  The Othungu song is an MP3 on:
  
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rajinidotcom1/files/Miscellaneous/Maveeran/
  
  Doesn't sound anything like Jumbalakka, not even in the music!
  
  
• From: (@ 217.40.204.177) on: Mon May 26 16:47:11 EDT 2003
  
  Please people, listen to it on the Yahoo page!
  
  
• From: (@ 217.40.204.177) on: Mon May 26 16:47:58 EDT 2003
  
  Also, the othungu othungu song is not even in a Spanish style!
  
  
• From: (@ 217.40.204.177) on: Mon May 26 16:49:38 EDT 2003
  
  Exactly how are you comparing the Jumbalakka song and the Maveeran song, Dhana, to say one is the same as the other?
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 202.54.11.72) on: Tue May 27 01:14:38 EDT 2003
  
  2 years from now different set of people will do the same argument. :-)
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.197.141.186) on: Tue May 27 06:27:25 EDT 2003
  
  Bharath:
  boring isn't it.?
  
  God...failure many people mad...IR camp is just the reflect of that. Poor souls
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.197.141.186) on: Tue May 27 06:28:25 EDT 2003
  
  >>>God...failure many people mad...IR camp is just the reflect of that. Poor souls
  
  
  shoudl be read as
  
  God...failure makes people mad...IR camp is just the reflection of that. Poor souls
  
  
  
  
• From: dhana (@ 128.148.68.57) on: Tue May 27 08:28:01 EDT 2003
  
  Hi every one,
  
  Jumbalakka is the copy of maveeran song.
  
  Not remake.
  
  One can expect the same in remake song.While copying the MD will try his best to make difference.Thats what ARR did in jumbaklakka.
  
  The song CHANDRALAKA in the maniratnam movie THIRUDA THIRUDA is copied from the song 'WHO IS IT' from the michael jackson's album DANGEROUS.
  
  
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 12.29.89.6) on: Tue May 27 10:38:46 EDT 2003
  
  AY - its not only IR camp..... 20 years from now, still someone will be saying "IR copied kanavu kaaanum vaazhkaai yaavum" song..... so can i say the same words u used :-)
  
  
• From: (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Wed May 28 04:27:48 EDT 2003
  
  but Dhana, the Maveeran song isn't even resembling a Spanish song, let alone Jumbalakka! How exactly did ARR copy the Othungu song?
  
  It is an MP3 on:
  
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rajinidotcom1/files/Miscellaneous/Maveeran/
  
  Take a listen and see.
  
  
  Sabesan, did UR really copy "kanavu kaaanum vaazhkaai yaavum"
  
  
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 12.29.89.6) on: Wed May 28 08:46:01 EDT 2003
  
  "195.217.141.65" - the answer is "yes" and "no". It depends upon how u take it. "Yes" its a pure replica of some hindi song. But "no" it was not "copied" like others do, where they take it, and do not accept that. IR did accept that it was done at the request of BM, and it was a "song" exchange (Ilaya NIla's notes were exchanged).
  
  
• From: dhana (@ 128.148.68.57) on: Wed May 28 09:27:16 EDT 2003
  
  Hi,
  
  One should undersatnd the difference between the copy and the remake.
  
  The maveeran song was just replaced with western rhythm in Jumbalakka.That is it .It is COPY not remake.
  
  Also check out the songs DOLNA with velai movie song Kunnooru poochatti
  
  And Konjamn nilavu song in the movie thiruda thiruda with the song WHO IS IT from the MJ' album DANGEROUS.
  
  The song Thangapathakkathin meley is copied as Enna vilai azhagey in kadalar dinam.
  
  
• From: (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Wed May 28 12:11:59 EDT 2003
  
  But Dhana, I can't hear the melody of Jumbalakka in the Maveeran song - there is absolutely no similarity at all. Please can you check the song name again for us. Are you sure it is the Othugu song, as featured on?
  
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rajinidotcom1/files/Miscellaneous/Maveeran/
  
  I know the difference between a copy and a remake, but I cannot see any resemblance between those two songs! I am so confused.
  
  Sanesha, cheers. I have heard the Hindi 'Ilaya Nila' - now you cleared up the doubts I had about it, as I was worried that IR had taken a Hindi tune and jazzed it uop, but it looked like they took IR's tune and re-made it. Thanks so much!
  
  Dhana, for the Dholna song I would aslo dispute that it is a copy of the song in Velai - why? beacuse, Dohna was written and composed before Velai, but it was released much later, because of production problems. The song video had been made, which means that anyone who went for the shooting would have heard the Dohlna song and could have put the idea in U1's head! Considering he imitated ARR anyway, it doesn't surprise me.
  
  
• From: (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Wed May 28 12:12:40 EDT 2003
  
  sorry, read sabesan - not sanesha
  
  
• From: (@ 195.217.141.65) on: Wed May 28 12:13:26 EDT 2003
  
  Read - "Considering he imitates ARR anyway"
  
  
• From: dhana (@ 128.148.68.57) on: Wed May 28 16:37:37 EDT 2003
  
  Hi,
  
  Velai movie came in 1998.Does anyone know when the movie parasuram declared?.
  
  The MJ's DANGEROUS album came before the movie THIRUDA THIRUDA.
  
  
• From: LM (@ 203.44.55.70) on: Wed May 28 18:42:25 EDT 2003
  
  In Shanjahan, song "Minnalai Pidithu" prelude was from a song in the Riverdance / Michael Flatley Album
  :)
  
  
• From: LM (@ 203.44.55.70) on: Wed May 28 18:43:33 EDT 2003
  
  oops..spelling error..
  
  In Shajahan, song "Minnalai Pidithu"'s prelude was from a song in the Riverdance / Michael Flatley Album
  :)
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Fri May 30 00:42:51 EDT 2003
  
  Have added the 2 prelude lifts in Parthiban Kanavu's 'Theeraadha' and 'Enna Seyya'.
  
  http://www.iespana.es/i2fs/
  
  
• From: doubter (@ 208.142.210.1) on: Wed Jun 4 16:51:20 EDT 2003
  
  I dont know if this was mentioned already. Just had the misfortune of watching Baba. The so-called "theme music" where some Madras guy pathetically tries to shout a few English words in American style, is a lift from 'raaththiri nEraththu' from anjali.
  
  The Baba music goes something like
  
  B to the A to the B to the A to the BABA. Compare with
  rAthiri nErathu rAtchsap pEikaNdu STAR WARS
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: vikram (@ 61.11.81.11) on: Sat Jun 7 03:51:43 EDT 2003
  
  agreed wonderfull find very clever appreciate your ears for truth who ever u r raaja rules tfm.
  
  

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