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- From: verdict (@ 136.1.1.101)
on: Thu Aug 19 13:42:06 EDT 2004
Final result:
GV ended his life in suicide...supporting an arrogant CM or an extravagant brother didn't help for long...landed him in all kinds of debt trap...had to end his life...
- From: cc (@ 198.31.45.51)
on: Thu Aug 19 13:48:36 EDT 2004
k,
very well said. I admire IR's this quality the most. He stuck to his principles even at very difficult times, not very many people known for that.
- From: rajasaranam (@ 61.1.202.175)
on: Thu Aug 19 14:53:00 EDT 2004
Guess me,
its very good for the career of ARR to play music like a 'Marriage Orchestra' troupe at the marriage of JJ's then adopted son Sudhakaran-A marriage which was criticised all over tamilnadu. our gr8 Egotist IR wud never do that. cos ' yaar kalayum nakki pozhaikanumndra kattayam avarukku illai'. This is the quality of IR which makes us a real HCIRF apart frm his music.
- From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.35.163)
on: Thu Aug 19 21:39:43 EDT 2004
verdict:
"Final result:
GV ended his life in suicide...supporting an arrogant CM or an extravagant brother didn't help for long...landed him in all kinds of debt trap...had to end his life..."
All this happened because he didnt go for IR :). Interesting explanation.
- From: curses (@ 203.101.32.103)
on: Thu Aug 19 21:57:30 EDT 2004
i miss the old newtfmpage :(
- From: C.R. Madhusudhan (@ 202.54.137.87)
on: Fri Aug 20 00:05:28 EDT 2004
Here I see a more arrogance of JJ than an ego of IR
Also, I remember an incident when Super* was denied to go in car to his residence and made to walk in Poes Garden ... he was pissed and went to a tea-shop and started smoking ... crowd gathered and there was a big traffic jam ... how far is this true?
Ok, I think we are long way from the thread "Manirathnam's next film"
Actually, anybody has a clue what the film name is? And who is the MD?
- From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29)
on: Fri Aug 20 01:30:59 EDT 2004
Well, I know for sure that MR went to Shankar Ehsaan Loy for the music of Alai Payuthey before settling down to ARR. This came from Ehsaan himself. But Ehsaan added that after some scratch recording sessions with them, MR went back to ARR.
And yes, I've seen 'Klassenfahrt', the German movie that's the original of Kadhal Konden and am sorry to say that my opinion of Selvaraghavan came crashing down. I never had any opinion about Dhanush anyway, so that is status quo.
- From: pakka gentleman (@ 66.119.33.135)
on: Fri Aug 20 02:23:39 EDT 2004
why would MR go to SEL? i know for sure, its because he didn't want any songs, only bgm, and since ARR was very busy starting his bombay dreams project with ALW, MR assumed ARR would not be able to do the music, but he was wrong, ARR came to him as they are the very best of friends, unlike shankar MR would not leave arr.
- From: rs (@ 203.101.42.78)
on: Fri Aug 20 02:26:15 EDT 2004
>>To me sticking by his principles with supreme confidence in his talents deserves more admiration and respect than hyped up, self-created publicity about the bogus claims of having invented new sounds and bogus humility
haha orutharoda talents, avanga pugazh adaiyarathu pidikkalaina avara pathi ennalam negative views kaathula ketkareengalo elathaiyum aggregate panrenga..nalla...... ungal thondu valarattum... sari waht do u want to infer here
ARR is waste no talent all hype
ARR is arrogant or falsely humble while IR is rightly self respectable
ithuthaana? illa innum ethum venuma.......?
ARR doing the wedding show.. yeah IR had the power to reject such things.. while ARR didnt at that time..he had to succumb to pressure......... now ARR has acquired that power i guess
- From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.35.163)
on: Fri Aug 20 05:18:50 EDT 2004
rs:
"ARR is arrogant or falsely humble"
Dont make baseless arguments. Can you find atleast one respectable personality who said ARR is arrogant or falsely humble.
For ARR who believes only God gave him creativity and was not self-attained, he will never be arrogant. Well that is not the case of a person, who was born amidst poverty and became a successful tfm composer. To whatever heights he go, he will have this ego or complex within himself and will continue to show it until he realises what it costed him.
- From: music_lover (@ 202.54.137.87)
on: Fri Aug 20 06:03:17 EDT 2004
Folks, please stop IR-ARR bashing in Mani's next film thread.
- From: chris (@ 216.148.246.70)
on: Fri Aug 20 06:03:57 EDT 2004
rs, your comments are both baseless and insensitive. We as ARR fans would never write anything as horrible like that about IR, because we love music, all kinds and composers, and we happen to like ARR the most. If ARR has a ego, why does he never take credit for his achievements, rather like the great Michael Jackson, he claims his songs are children gifted from GOD. Please rs have some respect, if you don't feel his music, thats fine, please don't make judgements on his personality, due to the simple fact that you dont know him!
- From: cinefan (@ 203.101.57.253)
on: Fri Aug 20 06:07:56 EDT 2004
rs sarcasticaa yetho yezudha poyi,ellarum avara anti-arr akkitaanga.
Plz read what he has written once more.
- From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.35.163)
on: Fri Aug 20 06:40:40 EDT 2004
"rs sarcasticaa yetho yezudha poyi,ellarum avara anti-arr akkitaanga. "
Sorry rs. Please dont post in Tamil. It is hard for me to understand as I am not a tamizhan.
- From: C.R. Madhusudhan (@ 202.54.137.87)
on: Fri Aug 20 07:18:07 EDT 2004
Guess Me, remember this is tamil film music portal ... try learning tamil ... it's a fantastic lang
- From: Cinefan (@ 203.101.58.63)
on: Fri Aug 20 07:55:10 EDT 2004
Guess Me,
I am also not a Tamilian,my mother tongue is Kannada.But my admiration for people like Kamalhasan,IR&Manirathnam made me learn the language.Now i am fluent not only in talking but also reading&a little bit of writing in Tamil.
- From: Maverick (@ 195.212.29.75)
on: Fri Aug 20 07:55:47 EDT 2004
omaaha zeeya waahi yaala...
- From: curses (@ 203.101.32.78)
on: Fri Aug 20 07:56:48 EDT 2004
idhu suththa thamizh-a? :)
- From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.35.163)
on: Fri Aug 20 09:51:06 EDT 2004
I am also trying to learn tamil. I also admire Kamal and MR which lead me to tamil films.
- From: Maverick (@ 195.212.29.67)
on: Fri Aug 20 10:36:38 EDT 2004
Dont put word in my mouths
- From: Mei Ezhuthu (@ 65.170.57.34)
on: Thu Aug 26 16:48:54 EDT 2004
Mani saar is waiting for alejandro inirittu (dir. of amores perros) to come up with a film, i guess.
OR since this being the "light romance turn" in the Mani Saar roller coaster, i guess he will be lookin for inspiration from classic love stories by others and himselves!
Mani saar..Mani saar..ippadi aayiteengaley!
- From: zz (@ 203.145.174.4)
on: Mon Aug 30 06:50:08 EDT 2004
Mei Ezhuthu:
Unga perla unMei irukkardhaala kekkaren..yen yaarum indha kelviya Kamal kitta kekkardhilla...kamal edhu panninaalum adhu innovative ..aana...enakku therinju..adhigama inspire agardhu avar thaan (not a crime though in my dictionary)...but not one minds that ...but if some other dir. or artist(note: associated with a perticular MD...inga thaan a twistu) does some thing inspired why everybosy raise your brow and ask question?
Sar, neenga verum Mei na (uyir illadha porul), endha kelvikku mannikkavum...ungalukku dhaan edhuvum oraikkadhe.
Oh....nega Mei Ezhuthu illa...neenga ippadi kekkalaama...Uyir ezhuthu inspire pannama...ungallala prayojaname illa...enna naansolradhu?
- From: rs (@ 203.101.42.78)
on: Tue Aug 31 01:02:06 EDT 2004
aaha i didnt attend this post for so long i dunno why...........athukulae enai paarthu Anti-ARR nu sollitaaaangale :( . From Pudhiya Mugam (i was 14 years old then) i had been an ARR fan , when Roja came i thought oh no not another one film wonder boy). Even though i am critical of some of ARR's works post Rhythm till Boys , i always felt happy for ARR's successes........
mhmm :) ennamo..........curses dude.......thank u so much for correctly understanding me..i am indebted to you...............
coming back to the topic... mr.mei ezhuthu... dont view with a blurred lens sariyaa.... mani is probably the only person in modern day TFM to never have any of his films titled in English or Taminglish......... if i am rite even none of his film songs are english / taminglish / damaged Tamil....... athaiyum konjam parunga
- From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.241.52)
on: Tue Aug 31 04:21:18 EDT 2004
rs,
Mani saru itha IR kudavae sernthu pannitaaru, Anjali paattu mukkavaasi Taminglishthaan....
- From: zz (@ 203.145.174.4)
on: Tue Aug 31 06:38:11 EDT 2004
Mani has always shot his films and sonmgs in India only and in local places. Only for KM he went to Srilanka because the story was based on that...Itha laam yaarum paraattamaatteenga..aana Maanasthan padathula...gramathuliye valarndha, padikkadha medhai sivaji madiri oru aalu duet foreign locationla paduvaanaam...adha neenga kandukaadhaikku....cha ennama shoot panniyirukkan paa...kalakkal paa nu solluveenga illa?
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 65.122.77.130)
on: Tue Aug 31 07:15:12 EDT 2004
Ok, As per the news they say Ayutha Ezhuthu is a flop, but I dont think so, but surely Yuva was ( and i expected it to be coz of the story line that is not inline with Hindi Movie making), Evidence is that Yuva was released in DVD to recover the financial loss as early as 2 months b4, but not AE. Can nebody confirm that, but perhaps, AE was one of the genuinely well made, well scripted movies (barring a few scenes, which I surely dont agree with), it had one of the best entertainment in recent times after PithaMagan.
Maverick
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