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Vani Jayaram's songs

Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
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I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)

"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."

Wow! Beautiful voice!

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VaniJairam.com - A site that has lots of info and songs of VJ.

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• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.22) on: Fri Jul 16 00:11:14 EDT 2004
  
  G.Ragavan,
  
  BMK has sung quite a few duets:
  
  Thanga ratham vandhadhu- Kalaikkoyil- with PS
  Puththam pudhu meni- Subadhinam- with PS
  Chinna chinna kanne- Bhaktha Prahalada- with SJ
  Thodudaya seviyan- Kan Malar- with Soolamangalam Rajalakshmi
  Ambalathu Nataraja- Kan Malar- with SJ
  Kurivikkara machaane- Navarathinam- with VJ
  High on a hill- Navarathinam- with VJ
  Thangam vairam- Deiva Thirumanangal- with VJ
  
  There may be some more.
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Fri Jul 16 10:07:33 EDT 2004
  
  BMK has a few duets in telugu as well. Most of the ones I remember are with SJ. I can't remember any with Vani or PS. Saravanan, do you know any duets of BMK with Vani in telugu by any chance?
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.29) on: Sat Jul 17 00:21:37 EDT 2004
  
  Kaumudi, sorry, I have not heard any BMK-VJ duets in Telugu.
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.27) on: Wed Jul 21 08:34:29 EDT 2004
  
  1979- Part 5
  
  Today, as we observe the anniversary of Sivaji Ganesan’s demise, let us, in this part of the 1979 chronicle, recall two songs that VJ sang, both duets with KJY for MSV in two Sivaji starrers.
  
  192. Thirumaalin thirumaarbil- Thirisoolam- KJY- MSV.
  
  Rajkumar’s Kannada film Shankar Guru (1978/ Dakshayani Combines) was a mammoth success. Directed by V.Somashekhar and having catchy songs tuned by Upendrakumar, the film starring Rajkumar in a triple role and co-starring Padmapriya and Jayamala, made box office history.
  
  Wishing to make his 200th film a memorable milestone, Sivaji Ganesan set about remaking Shankar Guru in Tamil under his own Sivaji Productions banner. Thirisoolam, besides having the thespian playing 3 roles, starred K.R.Vijaya, Sripriya, Reena, Jaiganesh, Nambiar, V.K.R, Pushpalatha and others. Directed by K.Vijayan, the film was released on 27.1.1979. Despite a clichéd story line and Sivaji’s garish coats and preposterous wigs, the film celebrated an uninterrupted 200-day run all over the state. The celebrations were particularly boisterous in Shanthi, Crown and Bhuvaneswari theatres in Madras, where Sivaji’s films were usually released.
  
  Sivaji played 3 roles, that of the patriarch Rajashekhar, who to escape facing the gallows for a crime he didn’t commit, runs away deserting his wife Sumathi (KRV), and those of his two sons, Shankar and Guru who are separated at birth. How the sons unite to bring the real criminals to justice forms rest of the tale.
  
  The repeat success of the story emboldened S.Ramanathan to remake it in Hindi but Mahaan (1983/Sathya Chitra International) starring Amitabh Bachchan, Waheeda Rahman, Parveen Babi and Zeenat Aman didn’t fare as well as its South Indian versions.
  
  Kannadasan and MSV ensured a superb set of songs this landmark venture. MSV assigned TMS to sing for Rajashekhar, KJY for the sedate Shankar and SPB for the mischievous Guru. Thus we had TMS singing ‘malar koduthEn’ (both happy and pathos versions), KJY singing ‘thirumaalin thirumaarbil sreedEvi mugamE’, and SPB crooning ‘en raajaathi vaarungadi’ and ‘kaadhal rani kattikiaNaikka’, and as a fitting finale KJY and SPB proclaiming in unison‘ iraNdu kaigaL naangaanaal’.
  VJ had the singular honour of being the only female singer to find place in Sivaji’s 200th film. (Of course, she had sung in the Kannada Shankar Guru as well- ‘Yaeneno aase nithanda baashe’ with Rajkumar himself!)
  
  This song had Sivaji and Reena romancing in the picturesque locales of Kashmir.
  
  thirumaalin thirumaarbil
  sridEvi mugamE
  deepangaL aaraadhanai
  oorengum poo vaasanai
  
  ‘Ghar firdaus bar ruhe zamin ast, hamin asto, hamin asto’- Loosely translated, this famous Persian couplet declares of Kashmir ‘If there is heaven anywhere on earth, it is here, it is here, it is here’! This song showed in glorious colour the couple cuddling together in a beautiful Shikhara on the placid Dal lake, strolling amidst sylvan tree-lined avenues of the magnificent Shalimar Gardens, stealing an intimate moment as the snow-capped mountains impassively look on---they are lost in quite another intimate heaven of their own!
  
  It is said that Sivaji was so enchanted by MSV’s ‘ninaivaalE silai seidhu unakkaga vaithEn’ that was part of the Andhamaan Kaathali album the previous year, that he requested MSV to come up with a similar melody for thirisoolam, and the result was this delightful duet. There are 3 charanams, and MSV ensures that each interlude in equally enticing. KJY and VJ add to the allure, making this song a memorable creation. The delectable way in which VJ renders her lines ‘ pudhu malar thaalattu, thazhuvidum poonkaatRu, manmathan rathidEvi viLaiyaadum kOlam naanum--neeyum-- avvaNNamE’, and hands over the charanam to KJY, who in turn picks it up with a dreamy ‘maalai ragathin ananda mayakkamE, mangala thEn sindha vaa’ is of lingering appeal.
  
  (Duets 3, page 2 at vanijairam.com)
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.10) on: Wed Jul 21 08:35:49 EDT 2004
  
  Continued---
  
  193. Gangai Yamunai- Imayam- KJY- MSV
  
  Mukta Films’ Imayam (released on 21.7.1979, its exactly 25 years today!) starred Sivaji Ganesan, Srividya, Jaiganesh, Meera, Reena, Thengai Srinivasan, Manorama and others. Imayam was scripted by A.S.Prakasam, produced by Mukta Ramaswami and directed by Mukta Srinivasan. If the Andamans were the backdrop of Mukta’s Andhamaan Kaadhali the previous year, in Imayam, the proceedings were set in scenic Nepal.
  
  Mukta added an innovative touch by naming all the characters after the major Indian rivers. Thus Sivaji played Ganga(dharan), Srividya played his wife Yamuna, and so on. That was the only interesting part of the movie--the story was humdrum--Sivaji tries to disclose the true colours of the wily Jaiganesh whom the world thinks to be a paragon of virtues, and how Jaiganesh thwarts his bid each time fills the reels.
  
  Kannadasan and MSV came up with some good songs again:
  
  gangai yamunai inguthaan sangamam- KJY/VJ
  sakthi ennada un budhdhi ennada- TMS/SPB
  kaNNilE kudiyirundhu karuNaitharum- TMS/L.R.Anjali
  imayam kaNdEn- SPB/BSS
  
  This song has Sivaji sporting a Gurkha cap and romancing with Srividya at the foothills of the towering Himalayas:
  
  gangai--
  yamunai--
  inguthaan--
  sangamam!
  raagam--
  thaaLam--
  mOhanam--
  mangalam!
  angayaRkaN mangala nayagi poopOl mella sirithaaL--
  mangaiyargaL nadagam naaNamE endru solli sirithaaL!
  
  MSV ushers in the majesty of the mountains with an arresting prelude, and the pallavi continues the enchantment. When I heard the song as a child, I particularly remember enjoying the overlapping of voices; VJ begins with ‘yamunai’ even as KJY prolongs the last syllable of ‘gangai’, and they continue thus. The charanams consist of only two lines each, but a careful repetition of each line makes them seem longer. Kannadasan’s poetic flourish is evident in ‘oorgOla mEgangaL thaalaattu paadamal pinnalE neLigindRa kOlamenna’ and the clever rejoinder ‘kaarkaalam maaRaamal kalyaNam aagaamal thaaLadha nilaikaNdum kELvi enna!’
  
  (Duets 3, page 1 at vanijairam.com)
  
  -1979 to continue with some more MSV-VJ collaborations-
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.99.81.200) on: Thu Jul 22 08:09:25 EDT 2004
  
  Change a few words here and there, "Thirumalin Thirumarbil" can be turned into a devotional song. Or the song just the way it is can be fit in any historical or devotional movie as a love song, but it is a song from a typical masala movie. A great song in all aspects - composition, lyrics and voices.
  
  Gangai Yamunai beautifully demonstrates a contrast. Softness vs sharpness. KJY sings Gangai so softly and VJ sings Yamunai so sharply. Same in "raagam thaalam". Subtle decorations by MSV.
  
  Thanks for the post Saravanan.
  
  
• From: raja m (@ 67.87.30.250) on: Thu Jul 22 10:51:35 EDT 2004
  
  Was listening to En Kalyana Vaibogam Unoduthaan from vanijairam.com - Neel D good job :-)
  
  - has this song been discussed in this forum? Saravanan - have you written on this movie and what ragam is this - great song and great singing..
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.183) on: Thu Jul 22 11:17:21 EDT 2004
  
  Neel, that was an interesting observation regarding Gangai Yamunai!
  
  raja m, yet to come to 'en kalyana vaibogam'in the chronology. Yes, a great song in all apsects, one that fetched VJ the TN Govt's Best Singer Award for 1979.
  
  Ayyo, ragathai pathi en kitte kekkireengale :)
  However, I guess it may be Madhyamavathi.
  
  
• From: raja m (@ 67.87.30.250) on: Thu Jul 22 12:28:14 EDT 2004
  
  saravanan, it was a general question to the public at large :-), I remember you had written on Sridhar (director).
  
  
• From: RR (@ 203.199.213.194) on: Thu Jul 22 22:58:03 EDT 2004
  
  saravanan: thanks for the excellent (as always ) write-ups on MSV-VJ-1979. Hope we do not have to wait too long for the next instalment!!
  RR
  
  
• From: AV (@ 132.206.72.96) on: Thu Jul 22 23:30:22 EDT 2004
  
  Saravanan:
  
  When you describe the song "en kalayana vaibogam", please could you include a brief translation of the lyrics? Thanks in advance. BTW, was it this song that fetched her the TN state award or was it "Naane naana"?
  
  The song "en kalyana vaibogam" is probably based on Raag Megh (Hindustani). It always reminds me of a very nice Hindi song sung by Yesudas and Haimanti Shukla in the movie Chash-e-badhhoor. The song is "kahaan se aaye badaraa".
  
  
• From: raja m (@ 67.87.30.250) on: Thu Jul 22 23:40:29 EDT 2004
  
  AV:
  
  Thanks for reminding Kahaan Sey Aaye - you are right - they sound similar. Have you noticed even the second stanza - Mazhai Kaala Megam and Yesudas's Pal Ko.. (not sure of the words).
  
  It is probably the raag(am) that makes the song so beautiful.
  
  
• From: AV (@ 132.206.72.96) on: Fri Jul 23 00:30:35 EDT 2004
  
  Raja M - Continuing my digression, the above-mentioned two songs are again quite similar to the title song of the TV serial "Mahabharat" (the one directed by B R Chopra). I think all three are based on Raag Megh. Corrections welcome!
  
  

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