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We can together sponsor an IR album !!!

Topic started by SR Kaushik (@ elroy.cs.wisc.edu) on Fri Aug 28 13:44:52 EDT 1998.
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Guys & gals, I have already put this stuff in one of the therads. But, owing to the poor response, I am starting it as a topic. I am sure if some of us get together, we can sponsor an album of say, IR's great BGM pieces or something like that. I really miss listening to them. I am sure we could raise the funds over a period of time.

Interested people, please respond in this thread. We will have to plan out the details also.

Do visit the page dedicated to this project.

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Responses:

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• From: balaji (@ schubert.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Thu Sep 24 15:44:35 EDT 1998
  
  isn't oru thalai raagam music by TR???
  
  
• From: Ramesh Vaidhyanathan (@ gengw.gensym.com) on: Thu Sep 24 16:26:54 EDT 1998
  
  What does Ilaiyaraja himself thinks about a project like this? Here are his relevant comments
  in a recent meeting with my friend Shyam Shekar:
  
  My complaining mood turns into a suggestive one. Why can’t Raaja release a series of albums containing his re-recordings? Who owns the copyright to re-recordings? Why aren’t his gems from the period 1975 to 1995 available on CD & tape? Why are we made to hunt for these scores? I go on to tell him about the tapes of `JHONNY' which play only on one speaker and are still being bought by his admirers like me.
  
  He laughs. `Appadiya? Re-recording porutha varai composer thaan rights oda owner. Naan cassette pottal adai appadiye TV serial-il adichiduvaanga. Appadiyae poduvaanga. Adanaala seyyalai'.
  
  As for the CD's from yesteryears collections Raaja explains that the music companies need to take the initiative.
  
  The complete interview is available at:
  
  http://www.indolink.com/tamil/cinema/index1.html
  
  -Ramesh, V.
  
  
  
• From: SR Kaushik (@ nova11.cs.wisc.edu) on: Thu Sep 24 17:04:15 EDT 1998
  
  It might be a better idea to approach this project thru KR as he is very friendly. That's why we must wait till Srikanth talks to him.
  
  
• From: SR Kaushik (@ colby.cs.wisc.edu) on: Fri Sep 25 23:10:01 EDT 1998
  
  I read the interview. I don't think IR is very serious when he says his BGM scores will be cogged for TV serials and that is why he is not producing any BGM cassette. If that were the case, he should not produce private albums either as they also would be cogged. So we can definitely talk it over with him.
  
  
• From: Shibu TN (@ 167-144-245.ipt.aol.com) on: Sat Sep 26 01:00:20 EDT 1998
  
  Iam really exited about this project. At last the real and deserved world recognition of the MAESTRO.
  How about opening a bank account where contributions can be sent?
  
  
• From: balaji (@ schubert.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Sat Sep 26 12:02:19 EDT 1998
  
  it is too early for collecting contributions. it has to be done legally, with proper procedures.
  
  
• From: Raja (@ 204-86-21.ipt.aol.com) on: Sat Sep 26 13:01:03 EDT 1998
  
  SR Kaushik:
  
  In Tamil thirai valai, there is an article in which Raja has talked about releasing his BGM. Here is the link:
  
  http://www.indolink.com/tamil/cinema/Specials/98/August/Raja3.htm
  
  
• From: SR Kaushik (@ nova9.cs.wisc.edu) on: Sat Sep 26 19:19:49 EDT 1998
  
  Raja: The interview I have mentioned above is the same.
  
  
• From: Ramesh Vaidhyanathan (@ gengw.gensym.com) on: Mon Sep 28 15:08:50 EDT 1998
  
  For those who read the Ilaiyaraja Interview
  by my friend Shyam Shekar at "Tamil Thirai
  Valai" - Indolink:
  
  The concluding part IV of that article has
  been added just now, after I discovered that
  it has been omitted and the article has ended
  abrubtly. Please visit this site again and read
  the concluding part IV, if you are interested.
  
  Thanks.
  
  -Ramesh, V.
  
  
• From: The Fan (@ spider-wd043.proxy.aol.com) on: Wed Sep 30 01:21:14 EDT 1998
  
  Kudos to Shyam Sekhar. In the meantime, we are awaiting further info on this project. Please continue this topic
  
  
• From: SR Kaushik (@ nova20.cs.wisc.edu) on: Wed Sep 30 02:31:23 EDT 1998
  
  The-Fan: "Continue the topic" includes inputs from interested people like you. Read up what is written and add to the appropriate lists.
  
  
  
• From: The Fan (@ spider-ta041.proxy.aol.com) on: Wed Sep 30 19:55:48 EDT 1998
  
  SR Kaushik:
  
  What is the appropriate list. How does one not help reading up what is written and add to the appropriate lists. I don't understand your stricture. Explain.
  
  
• From: The Fan (@ spider-ta041.proxy.aol.com) on: Wed Sep 30 20:20:04 EDT 1998
  
  SR Kaushik
  
  'Read what is written and add to the appropriate lists'. Hmmm.....
  
  
• From: SR Kaushik (@ nova6.cs.wisc.edu) on: Wed Sep 30 20:23:02 EDT 1998
  
  The Fan: We have listed BGMs and songs under "Love themes" etc, right? That's what I meant by lists. Several pieces and songs are laready mentioned. Add your picks.
  
  
• From: SR Kaushik (@ ntws219.cs.wisc.edu) on: Thu Oct 1 21:50:54 EDT 1998
  
  Come on guys, put more enthu - add more songs for remastering.
  
  
• From: balaji (@ schubert.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Thu Oct 1 22:39:46 EDT 1998
  
  about nirupama's suggestion of putting johnny for BGM, i don't think the piano piece runs for minutes. i think its running time is much shorter.
  
  
• From: Srinivas (@ gatesb02-mac-00.stanford.edu) on: Thu Oct 1 22:57:50 EDT 1998
  
  Kaushik,
  I would anyday put my money on instrumental versions of classic folks songs :-
  
  1. Annakiliye - (Annakilli)
  2. Sirimalle poova (padaheralla vayasu)
  
  Srinivas
  
  
• From: SR Kaushik (@ elroy.cs.wisc.edu) on: Tue Oct 6 18:32:57 EDT 1998
  
  Now that we have a reasonably long list of songs to be remastered and BGM pieces to go ahead with, can someone estimate how much the whole thing is going to cost?
  
  You see, we will have to plan ahead and begin saving money for this. I think we now have atleast 20 people in our group.
  
  Suresh, can you make a rough estimate?
  
  
• From: balaji (@ schubert.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Thu Oct 8 03:29:29 EDT 1998
  
  Here is an excerpt on BGMs from an article on IR by Mr.Kannikeswaran:
  Raajapaarvai: There is this violin piece that Kamal plays at a
  recording, that is on the movie record too. (Its proabably a 78rpm
  with andi mazhai on one side and this piece on the other; ive seen
  only badly scratched discs!). VS Narasimhan (who later on was to
  direct music himself) played the lead violin. This piece is
  probably known to one and all. Now, there is another violin
  piece which is only on the soundtrack. The accompanying scene is
  one wherein Madhavi watches with appreciation Kamals rendition and
  breaks into applause and disturbs the recording..; also, the
  theme music in this film is based on a little hymn like song sung
  by the school choir; this song directly precedes andi mazhai;
  a much grander version of this piece is played at the conclusion
  of the film. Remember the song 'Vizhiyorattu kavidai'; A theme
  based on this song repeats throughout the film, growing in
  intensity/richness, as the relationship between Raghu and Nancy
  develops; played several times on several instruments, this piece
  repeats during the church scene at a faster pace. The background
  score in this movie is worth paying attention too.
  
  The above illustration should give a general outline of what to
  expect in Illaiyaraaja's background score. The title music is
  usually special. There are themes for various contexts and these
  themes repeat themselves in various forms. Such conscious scoring
  frame by frame really builds up the power of a movie..
  
  Nenjattai killade: Title music, along the lines of Paruvame, -
  with appropriate sitar/guitar pieces, coming to a grand end with
  a lead violin and strings in the baroque style. There is also a theme
  that is used to show the growing warmth between Suhasini and Pratap
  . This tune has been reused in the Penn Serial which came on TV
  several years later. The first interlude in Paruvame - was later on
  reset as a portion of a song 'Malaiye paniye alaigalin nuraiye' -
  in the song 'Alaigale vaa' for the movie Kavidai malar or so (i think)
  that was never released..
  
  Going forward 6 years, lets look at Mouna raagam. The haunting
  music that echoes throughout the Kartik flashback still lingers
  in my mind. There is also a theme based on the scale of pantuvarali
  that shows the affection that revati's family has for her..
  
  Alaigal Oivatillai had a very good background score. So did
  Salangai Oli. A choir based humming in the scale of keeravani
  interspersed with powerful mridangam, with small counter melodies
  on the synth, dominate the section first half of the movie..
  
  Again, it is in these background scores that a music director has
  a full unlimited range of options (is it an appropriate word?) to
  create a listening experience, with his choice of the medium, in
  order to get the emotion/event at that point in time, at that
  situation get to the listener in a very powerful manner. It also
  calls for a great deal of creativity on the part of the director
  to capitalize on the music director's skills to express his message
  more effectively. There are scenes in films where there are
  no dialogues, no songs (of course no fights/chases), where music
  alone dominates. you can see a lot of such scenes in bharatiraaja's
  films. The interlude from the song 'idayam pogude' is used
  repeatedly in Pudiya vaarpugal for example..
  
  The lp from the film 'Ninaivellam Nitya' has a number of small
  instrumental pieces, from various films. One of these, if I am
  not mistaken, is the title music from the film Ullasapparavaigal.
  
  Raaja has also contributed a lot to the orchestral interludes in film
  songs. Most of these are highly intricate (especially during the
  Golden Age); some of them deviate from the main theme, wander
  systemmatically (not aimlessly - imitations meander aimlessly!),
  sometimes involving (in technical terms what is called) a modal shift
  and finally return to a comfortable starting point for the next
  passage. Take the second interlude in Aananda raagam from panneer
  pushpangal for example. Other memorable interludes are those
  >from my all time favourite Andi mazhai and Poonkadave. One other
  song with a striking contrast in the interlude is 'Engum nirainda
  iyarkaiyil'. In most cases the deviations are subtle; it often
  seems like each interlude (actually each line) has a story to tell.
  Nenjattaikkillade - Yen tenrale- effective use of a choir..
  
  
• From: Sriram (@ 1cust45.tnt2.det1.da.uu.net) on: Thu Oct 8 12:55:08 EDT 1998
  
  The BGm of "Kizhakkey Pogum Rail" lingers on even now. When Radhika runs (slowmotion) to read what Sudhakar had written for her at the back of the train - lovely humming by Jenzy.
  
  Also another interesting one is from Agni Natchatram - the scene when Disco Shanthi arrives VKR's home and the next 15 minutes. - the music was quite different and appealing.
  
  

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