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Yesterday - Illayarajah Today - A.R. Rahman Tomorrow - Yuvan Shankar Raja

Topic started by Pras (@ 66.185.84.71) on Sat Jan 25 08:43:29 EST 2003.
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Who Do You Think Is The Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow MD of TFM?

I think its:
Yesterday - Illayarajah
Today - A.R. Rahman
Tomorrow - Yuvan Shankar Raja

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Responses:

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• From: sena (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Sun Jun 29 14:58:07 EDT 2003
  
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• From: sena (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Sun Jun 29 14:59:19 EDT 2003
  
  http://www.tamilterra.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1052
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.218.49) on: Sun Jun 29 22:43:10 EDT 2003
  
  Yaa V i can't agree more with you, IR is talent-personified, he composed tunes for "Mouna Ragam" within 3 days.... ARR cannot do it.. ARR's adaptibility to different cultres and music is unparalleled.... it is just that i want u guys give ARR his due credit.... By the way this thread was supposed to be on YSR.... he is also a gud talent.... doubts whether he is of his dad's calibre.. btw dunt u feel he is more Rahmanish than IR type?.. someone clarify...
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.218.49) on: Sun Jun 29 22:49:53 EDT 2003
  
  This for u Sham bitch(or gay watever)
  
  DO YOU THINK ARR FANS WUNT RETALIATE... UR MISTAKEN U AUSSIE-MORON... U HAVE A SHALLOW KNOWLEDGE THAT'S Y U CAN POST ONLY DEROGATORY MESSAGES U FU**-HEAD... BY THE WAY UR LANGUAGE DOESENT SEEM LIKE A MUSIC FAN BUT A PIMP IN A RED-LITE AREA....
  
  
• From: V (@ 141.149.215.206) on: Sun Jun 29 23:56:36 EDT 2003
  
  Maddy,
  
  YSR is the musician I admire the most after ARR and IR.
  
  I like him more than HJ, VS. It is my personal opinion that YSR is the ONLY MD now in TFM who really feels the pulse of world music and brings that into every album of his.
  
  Let me clarify that before your rebound :)
  
  I am just saying that YSR quickly gets inspired by foriegn bands and has started doing songs like them in his movie. Check out punnagai poove and you will know what I am saying in one go!
  
  ARR is more of a world musician in the sense that ARR tries to increase the range of his audience globally. Let us call this 'Global outflow' (to make things easier)
  
  YSR on the other hand is 'Global inflow'. That is he brings sounds from other parts of the globe into TFM so that our TFM listeners who would never listen to a eminem might get a feel of what it is.
  
  I am also aware that ARR has also done this by doing something like "ye ye Ennachu" but I think YSR does it more frequently.
  
  Unfortunately this is regarded as copying and people scold YSR for lifting or getting inspired by foriegn musicians too much. In the interview with director Ameer who did 'Mounam Pesiyathey' a stunning album by YSR, Ameer said that YSR is up to date with world music and you can easily see that in his albums. In the latest album "Winner" he has attempted a hip-hop reaggae kind of song called "AYE Aye" which is really like the ones they play in clubs and bars all over the US.
  
  YSR is immensely talented and if you are not into his music much pls let me know and I shall post some albums in this hread which you must listen to.
  
  I do wholeheartedly agree that he is more ARR-ish. In fact he himself has agreed to that in his interviews. His music is targeted to youth of chennai! I dont know how far he will go, but as far as I know he will be the most potential music director to reckon with after ARR. And this is my personal opinion. HJ, VS are still good and I dont intend to hurt their fans here.
  
  So
  Yesterday- IR
  Today-ARR
  Tomorrow - YSR? I hope:)
  
  He has a long way to go but he is already doing very well and good luck to him and also thanks to him tfm listeners are getting to hear some music from the other side of the globe!
  
  
• From: Sam (@ 217.44.99.167) on: Mon Jun 30 03:08:47 EDT 2003
  
  V,
  Finally a posting from somebody who has great taste in music. This is exactly the point I was trying to make ny saying YSR is the only MD with the potential to be the future of TFM.
  YSR has a wide range of influences in his music and has tried to incorporate it all into his songs. Everybody says that ARR brought western beats to TFM and caused a great change, but that does not mean that anybody else who uses western beats in their music is copying ARR. ARR entered the field long before YSR did, at the time Roja released, YSR would have been 11 or 12. Of course when YSR entered the field he would be using western influences. I would not put that solely down to ARR. By 1996 MTV and other western music channel were very accessible in India.
  If you look now, not a single MD who has entered TFM within the last 5 years has composed wihtout western influences. PLease don't say that ARRT is the reason for this. It is down to western music becoming more popular in India.
  YSR has tried more styles and genres of music in each of his films . YSR has covered every type of music in his compositions and has introduced styles to TFM taht even ARR has not. So does this mean that any other MD who composes a Garage song,a drum&bass song or an R&B song has copied YSR?I don't think so.
  YSR's Eye song can be compared with any western song and will probably come out on top. It can be likened with songs by Fat Joe, P-Diddy, Usher, Joe, 50 Cent. In what way has YSR shown himself to be inferior for all the bad comments that he gets?
  YSR has a great and immensley bright future ahead of him. He is working for the betterment of TFM and not for the betterment of his bank balance. YSR is the best MD currently but does not charge nearly enough renumeration for the great music he does.
  Very few people see the good that YSR is doing for TFM. Can anybody justify the money that ARR or HJ or even VS get paid for their movies? If HJ can demand 75 lakhs, I am sure YSR can demand 80.
  People need to start puuting more faith in this kid who has shown great talent till date. Don't put all your hopes on people such as ARR who is not here to provide us with great music, as he is to earn money or HJ who is just copying ARR and demanding money for remixing or even VS who is revamping IR's old songs and charging more than he deserves.
  
  Give YSR a chance, HE IS THE FUTURE OF TFM.
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.233.222) on: Mon Jun 30 04:08:16 EDT 2003
  
  I havent heard of YSR much except for his "Thulluvatho Ilamai" and "Poovellam Kettupar". he was excellent in both these Movies... u know i like songs to be peppy.. i like gud beats in melodies too.. YSR seems to do it... but he has one big problem.. wat type of music is left to be mastered... IR is exponent of folk and lite music...ARR is the god of pop and Metal stuff.. both of them have tremendous carnatic depth.. so YSR has to bring something new .. maybe TECHNO,FUNKY,REGGAE types of music in an Conceivable manner to Tamil fans...
  
  
• From: Paran (@ 203.123.16.215) on: Mon Jun 30 04:56:55 EDT 2003
  
  "Don't put all your hopes on people such as ARR who is not here to provide us with great music, as he is to earn money "
  
  
  Do u need such a statement to praise another MD...
  
  Suttalum, Sannge niram marathe...
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.128.137) on: Mon Jun 30 14:33:35 EDT 2003
  
  maddy,
  i get angry when people try to compare ARR to IR and say both r equal.and statements such as :
  "both of them have tremendous carnatic depth " makes them seem as though they are equals.please never try to attempt this gimmick with an IR fan.jus try listening to the songs in moga mul, bharathi or sindhu bairavi. has ever ARR come up with such brilliant compositions in his career.any body can learn carnatic music but getting into its depth was done by IR - the one and one only.
  in late 80s IR invented a raaga which was aptly named by him as "panchamugi" for which he was felicitated by the tamilnadu carnatic musicians association.can ever ARR think of attempting such a feat????????
  
  
  
• From: V (@ 147.129.99.180) on: Mon Jun 30 14:38:03 EDT 2003
  
  Maddy,
  
  Why dont you try listening to Mounam Pesiyathey and Punnagai Poove?
  
  They both are very very good YSR albums. Especially in Punnagai poove he has done so much techno ambience kind of songs that perfectly fit the mood of that youthful movie!
  
  Sam nice to see another hardcore YSR fan!
  
  I think he has the maximum potential after ARR and IR! I dont want to talk about the payment he gets. What we want is his music. He is very very consistent in surprising me!
  
  
• From: V (@ 147.129.99.180) on: Mon Jun 30 14:42:04 EDT 2003
  
  ARR and IR both have good carnatic depth.
  
  However it is an undisputed that IR's grip on carnatic music and its nuances is unmatchable by even some leading young carnatic musicians!
  
  Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer praised IR as the only MD in tfm who has mastered carnatic music knowledge.
  
  Ofcourse IR is a tower when it comes to carnatic music. But that does not mean ARR is zero in carnatic right? ARR is good too, however IR is unmatchable when it comes to carnatic. agreed!
  
  But the shocking fact is that the upcoming MDs are almost zero in carnatic! Especially HJ. I am waiting for the day when he does a carnatic fare!! Let us see how he modifies his "church" music to carnatic!
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.234.233) on: Mon Jun 30 16:19:14 EDT 2003
  
  ARR has less carnatic knowledge than IR????? that's the joke of the century... IR composes many tunes with a folk background.. but ARR has almost 90% of tunes with Carnatic background... have u guys noticed the carnatic touch in "columbus columbus" from jeans..ARR is such a gemius that he can bring carnatic touch in a peppy song like "columbus"...btw punnagai poove was gud mr.V...
  
  
• From: Jag (@ 35.9.26.160) on: Mon Jun 30 16:35:05 EDT 2003
  
  Maddy,
  I think you only post stuff like this to get responses. I think you better do your homework on IR and also ARR, before giving out such statements.
  
  
  Jag
  
  ps: "ARR is a gemius" but IR is a genius :>
  
  
  
• From: V (@ 147.129.99.180) on: Mon Jun 30 16:38:01 EDT 2003
  
  MADDY,
  
  Although I try to be very objective, I have to come out in one of the fircest defenses for IR in his carnatic knowledge.
  
  I do not demean ARR's carnatic knowledge in anyway!
  
  However to say IR And ARR are equal in carnatic is ridiculous and atrocious! Unnal Mudiyum Thambi, Sindhu Bhairavi, Bharathi, Moghamull are standing evidence of this. IR is the ONLY musician in TFM who has MASTERED Carnatic Music.
  
  In one of my casual conversations with one great singer in carnatic music who sings for ARR and IR, that singer said "Ippa endha music directorukkum carnatic knowledge romba dhooram pa" he pointed Ilayaraja and said "Raja sir mattum than carnatic musica apdiye pure formla master pannirkaar." he said Raja must know more Carnatic than soe of the carnatic artistes now.
  
  I am not even sure if ARR knows some Raagas. ARR has admitted this to some fan of his. ARR music does sound carnatic at times. But that does not mean he is more well-versed in carnatic than IR.
  
  Check out the "Karahapriya Aalapanai" in Unnal mudiyum thambi. The duel between Yesudas and Nadhaswaram in Karahapriya raagam is one of the carnatic gems in TFM! Maestro has stamped his authority in carnatic all over this film!
  
  Maddy, please hear Mounam Pesiyathey too. It has very good songs.
  
  
• From: Paran (@ 203.123.16.215) on: Mon Jun 30 16:43:04 EDT 2003
  
  Err...
  
  Maddy....i'm a die hard ARR fan too...
  
  but ur posting are not factual enough...
  
  IR's carnatic knowledge is way to high to be matched by ARR....not saying ARR is bad or what...but IR is great..in carnatic...
  
  it's like comparing someone with BBA and MBA....both are BA's but the depth are different....
  
  just sharing the truth buddy...
  
  

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