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Yesterday - Illayarajah Today - A.R. Rahman Tomorrow - Yuvan Shankar Raja

Topic started by Pras (@ 66.185.84.71) on Sat Jan 25 08:43:29 EST 2003.
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Who Do You Think Is The Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow MD of TFM?

I think its:
Yesterday - Illayarajah
Today - A.R. Rahman
Tomorrow - Yuvan Shankar Raja

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Responses:

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• From: V (@ 141.149.235.21) on: Thu Jul 17 18:35:53 EDT 2003
  
  "my interpretation of the slow tune and fast jaadhis made me understand that it conveys slow foreplay and a fast climax"
  
  Great if it did!
  
  So you can clearly see that arr by just using the slow tune and fast Jadhis has done what had to be done to the song!
  
  Thats my Point!
  
  No Orgasms! No Vulgarity like "Haaan" "machaaann(in a orgasmic way)"
  
  Just a slow tune an jadhi!
  
  Man! How great and brilliant ARR has to be in conveying complex emotions with simple non-vulgar musical elements!
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.128.25) on: Thu Jul 17 19:30:44 EDT 2003
  
  ur not answering many of questions and skipping them and stubborn on the fact that IRs compositions are vulgar while ARRs is not.i appreciate that.
  slowly uve come to accept that the song is erotic and ARR has done wat had to done to the song with his slow tune and fast jadhis. isnt it the basic question i had asked u frm the beggining. did i ask u whether the song is vulgar or whether the song is erotic. i had been terming all these songs as erotic and not vulgar.
  to sum up frm all ur posts
  ur sexual inclination/desire or the bench mark lies on haan and hiss sounds as they r orgasmic as they r vulgar[ i dont understand how orgasm had become vulgar for u].
  for a clearer understanding there r diff. kinds of people on this to planet who hav diff tastes and inclination towards sexuality.
  1. gays - who doesnt get aroused looking at a female
  2.lesbians - who doesnt care abt males
  3.fetishers - who get desire by looking at some parts alone like legs or fingers
  4.BDSMs - who enjoy painful sex
  to name a few
  for a gay normal sex wud look vulgar similarly others kinds wud look at the others as vulgar.
  finally going along ur own lines and playing ur own game do i hav the right to declare IRs all erotic compositions as normal, nothing vulgar init only erotic, while all ARRs including his normal songs hav someway affected me in such a way to kindle my desires and feel me sexually aroused. as this shudnt happen and its against my views i term all his songs to be orgasmic and vulgar.DO I HAV THE RIGHT?????
  IF NOT U DONT HAV THE RIGHT TO TERM IRS COMPOSTIONS AS VULGAR.
  IF YES I DECLARE ALL ARRS COMPOSITIONS AS VULGAR.
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.128.25) on: Thu Jul 17 19:43:51 EDT 2003
  
  PART 2
  raja rajadhi....
  giv me a clearer picture of exactly which verse of that song was not audible or made it difficult for u to understand the lyrics. if ur weak in tamil i cud suggest some places where they give excellent tuitions on tamil.
  
  
• From: V (@ 141.149.235.21) on: Thu Jul 17 20:00:41 EDT 2003
  
  Look! As an MD you can bring out the passion between two lovers in different ways.
  
  One way is to make use of the musical elements at your disposal and create a mood (like in thee thee) that is conveyed by purely musical means (ex: slow tunes, fast flutes, fast rhythm, power chords, walking bass, thala jadhis, fretless bass etc.)
  
  Another way (the IR way) is to batantly add the sexual sounds to create the mood of passion.
  
  Either way an MD makes the required effect for the song. However the second way (the IR way) is what I call 'Vulgar'. If I make those sounds (like S Janaki's orgasms) in front of my parents what will my parents think of me??
  
  The ARR way is more decent and non-vulgar although it conveys the reqd mood! The mood is conveyed purely by "music"!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  No Orgasms!
  
  Haha you go so deep with your theories, you started with satelite channels, then bharatanatyam dancers, then psychiatrists advice to be open about sex and now you come up with sexual demographics!
  
  
  It is simple rajasaranam! make those sounds in front of your family and tell me what their reaction is!
  
  
• From: sena (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Thu Jul 17 20:28:29 EDT 2003
  
  YSR the no.1 MD now
  
  http://www.thatstamil.com/specials/cinema/specials/yuvan-n.html
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.128.190) on: Thu Jul 17 21:33:55 EDT 2003
  
  V,
  those sound were well received by the whole tamil nadu when they were played in every house, tea stalls and bus stands leave alone my parents.
  looking at a scene in bagyaraj movie thavani kanvugal ull understand this.
  the family consists of all females and the only male is bagayaraj.
  the scene is something like this all females gather up and play'ponmeni uruguthey' and the ungest girl will be doing erotic dancing ofcourse bagyaraj comes and says 'ye ulla pongadi' at them. but the picture is clear that those sounds were well democratised and it reached all people without any hard feelings.
  at times there will be comments frm people like u who take care abt our culture and respect family values to the core.
  also think abt all those parents whose children hav beeb bred up in this globalized culture who listen to rock music and dance to their utmost freenzy like drug addicts.by them itself a cultural force for whom ARR is catering music.
  BTW IR has composed different kinds of songs to convey sexual passion betn 2 lovers.
  sindhiya ven pani
  ilamai enum poongatru
  aayiram thamarai mottukale
  muthu mani malai
  ponvaanam panner thoovuthu
  enulley enulley
  yedho mogam
  sandhana marbiley kungumam
  mansu mayangum
  kannil yedho
  nee oru kaadhal
  all the songs ive listed above belong to the category where he has experimented a lot to convey the sexual passion thro musical language in a subtler way.he is a maestro in that kind of music.
  ARR can never reach the heights as IR had when compared as to these songs.
  the second category is the one which u term vulgur, but i still find erotic are songs like
  vaa vaa vathiyarea vaa
  nila kayuthu
  orakka kathutthu kozhi
  raakhozhi koovum neram
  pallikudam pogalama
  jivunnu jivunnu yeruthu
  
  and all these songs were a big hit in TN. this shows that they r not vulgar. if it had been vulgar -IR wud ve been forced to retire long back by the public.
  so dont try to term vulgar anything which u find vulgar.
  i can giv a list of folk nos. and carnatic nos. where eroticism was depicted openly or in subtle forms. all these r accepeted democratically by the genl. public. try watching a real karagattam show in any of the villages. ull find it disgusting and vulgar. but this the way our culture is. "SEX IS NOTHING TO BE HIDDEN"
  ofcourse the tamil elites condemn VM for writing lyrics like 'marbukku mathiyila sethu poga aasai'
  in a book by Pamaran titled vairamuthu+vaali = aabasam he has asked openly " sethu ponumna sethu poyenda anga poi saganumnu yen virumbara". now this is terrorism in its budding form.by condemning the other to die and not accepting it as their form of expressing love.
  ur one step behind frm these kind of peoples.
  
  
• From: Admin (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Thu Jul 17 21:50:42 EDT 2003
  
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• From: Admin (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Thu Jul 17 21:51:09 EDT 2003
  
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• From: Admin (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Thu Jul 17 21:51:15 EDT 2003
  
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• From: Admin (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Thu Jul 17 21:51:38 EDT 2003
  
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