Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
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I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)
"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."
Wow! Beautiful voice!
Neel's VJ Songs
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- From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63)
on: Tue Sep 24 02:13:47 EDT 2002
Neel D -
Thanks for your kind words. I hope my brief summaries of VJs Hindi songs/bhajans are adequately persuasive. It will be a loss if people just tune off and stop listening just because of the language barrier. And for all that, VJs Hindi is spot-on and her singing is just as expressive in Hindi as it is in tamizh.
I just noticed that someone has excavated an archived VJ thread...what is the purpose of that??
Maybe, you have a clue or can speculate about this puzzling revival? :-)
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.233)
on: Tue Sep 24 05:28:12 EDT 2002
- Continuing down the Vani-MSV '77 memory lane-
84. Ammadi konja neram- Deviyin Thirumanam-MSV
‘Heaven is mirrored, Love, deep in thine eyes,
Soft falls its shimmering light upon thy face;
Tell me, Beloved, is this Paradise,
or but Love’s bower in some deep-sheltered place?
Is that God’s burning bush that now appears,
or but the sunlight slanting through the trees?
Is that sweet song the music of the spheres,
or but the deep andante of the breeze?
Are we blest spirits of some glad new birth
floating at last in God’s eternity?
Or art thou, Love, still but a man on earth,
and I a woman clinging close to thee?’
The film had Muthuraman, KRV and Padmapriya. I have a vague memory of the eternal triangle. I do remember a game played in the film -‘Puli, aatukkuttiyai kandeeya?’ –it caught my childish fancy. I confess that I don’t remember anything else.
This song was quite popular on ilangai vaanoli those days- especially the ‘Vidumurai viruppam’ in the weekends featured it frequently. I am not certain about the lyrics:
Ammadi Konja neram konja vendum odi vaa--
ival thane thottil ittaal
ival thane tholil vaithaal-
naal thorum nenjil vaithu nanooru mutham thandhaal
Paalaadai neeraati pattu kacham kondu,
panineeril manivaangi pazhachaaru thandhu
pennppoovai koduthu koduthu
pon pola eduthu eduthu
Thaththai sugathin viththai padithu
Andha naadhan konda kaalam ninaikka ninaikka inikkum-
Boopaalam paadaamal pongum inba vellam
pozhuthellaam iravaaga vilayaadum ullam
Eppothu nadakkum nadakkum
en vaazhvu manakkum manakkum
Andha sugathai sindhum mugathai
andhi saayum inba neram nianaikka ninaikka inikkum-
The catchy music that follows ‘Odi Vaa’ and continues is a stroke of genius! VJ glimpses MSV’s vision of enchanting vistas of romantic pining and longing, and her vocal chords translate the beauty envisaged by the Master into a rare rhapsody-
These are my scales to weigh reality- chord, a dream, a longing, love of thee!’
-Ninaikka ninaikka inikkum!
85. Sridevi varam ketkkiraal- Deviyin Thirumanam-PS-MSV
(More tamil-Page 3)
Two women singing about the same man- situation as old as the hills- remember ‘Unadhu malar kodiyile, enadhu malar madiyiley’? Here KRV and Padmapriya, each one asserting that he belongs to her- two great voices- each one distinctly attractive.
VJ: Sridevi varam ketkkiraal
Thirumaalai naadi
Manamaalai thedi
Endha managai sondha managaiyo
Endha Gangai deva Gangayo
Raagam-
En kaiyil en veenayil
Gaanam-
En sollil en jaadayil
Naan thane paadinen om swagatham
Suprabatham
nidham
PS: Deepam-
En koyil pon vaasalil
Devan-
En maarbil en medayil
En oonjal medai thaan pon aasanam
Padmaasanam
nidham
MSV, having created many songs of the same genre over the years, still manages to stamp uniqueness in each of them. Here he manages to create a multi-hued mosaic from a situation so pedestrian and prosaic. This song, perhaps the situation demanded it,has some Vedic chanting in the interlude. VJ presents her case, and packs up. PS then enters with her assertive rejoinder. VJ is amazing in each repetition of ‘Sridevi’ and her charanam is spellbinding! PS’s verse is just as enthralling. The song has a timeless appeal.
86. Veru Idam thedi povaalo- Sila nerangalil sila manithargal- MSV
(Solos-Page 6)
Jayakanthan’s story,crafted in celluloid by A Bhimsigh. Starred Srikanth, Lakshmi, Nagesh (wonderful cameo), Sundaribai, Rajasulochana, Sukumari and YGP.
1977 was the year when I got to see my first film in a theatre (Aatukkara Alamelu-How I enjoyed it!!) I did go to SNSM, tagging along my parents, (Leo theatre, Chennai), but couldn’t follow head or tail of the proceedings, and expressed my disgust by going to sleep. It took me many years to appreciate this masterpiece - I saw it on DD when I was much older. It remains a milestone in the annals of Tamil cinema.
Conventionality is not morality. Self-righteousness is not religion. To attack the first is not to assail the last. To pluck the mask from the face of the Pharisee is not to lift an impious hand to the Crown of Thorns. These things and deeds are diametrically opposed: they are as distinct as is vice from virtue. We too often confound them-they should not be confounded. Appearance should not be mistaken for truth. Narrow human doctrines, that only tend to elate and magnify a few, should not be substituted for the world-redeeming creed of Christ. There is a difference; and it is a good, and not a bad action to mark broadly and clearly the line of separation between them.
The world may not like to see these ideas dissevered, for it has been accustomed to blend them; finding it convenient to make external show pass for sterling worth-to let whitewashed walls vouch for shrines. It may hate him who dares to scrutinise and expose, to raise the gilding and exhibit the base metal beneath, to penetrate the sepulchre and reveal charnel relics; but hate as it will, it is indebted to him.
There is such a writer in our own days-Jayakanthan (birth 24.4.1934)- He is a glittering star in the firmament of Tamil literature. A trendsetter in many ways, he was the natural successor of Pudumaipithan and will forever remain the role model for all future writers.
His forays into the film world have been limited, but he has left an indelible mark and brought a refreshing whiff of realism into the melodramatic portals of Kodambakkam.
His first film Unnai Pol Oruvan-1965 fetched the President’s Award. His next was Yaarukkaga Azhudhaan-1966, which sank without a trace.
Surprisingly, A Bhimsingh, the Mughal of Melodrama in the 60s, did a volte-face in the 70s and thought it fit to film Jayakanthan’s novel ‘Sila Nerangalil Sila manithargal’. He expressed profound admiration for JK’s thorough professional approach and brilliant screenplay. The Bhimsingh-JK collaboration brought one more offbeat venture- ‘Oru Nadigai Nadagam Paarkiraal’- 1978. JK’s ‘Pudhu seruppu Kadikkum’ never saw the light of the day, which fate was shared by ‘Ethanai konam ethanai paarvai’.
Sila Nerangalil Sila Manidhargal was first published as a novel ( Meenakshi Puthaga Nilayam, Madurai-June 1970). It won the Sahitya Academy award in 1972.
I think Lakshmi got the ‘Urvashi’ award for her superbly realistic portrayal of Ganga, the chief protagonist of the tale.
However, the newly elected TN Govt.,which revived the State Awards, didn’t seem to be too enthusiastic about the film. See the award winners for 1977-78: 1st Best Film: 16 Vayathiniley, 2nd Best Film: Madhurageetham, 3rd Best Film: Balapareetchai!
And, with MGR at the helm, no prizes for guessing who bagged the best actress award- of course, it was Latha for ‘Maduraiyai meeta Sundarapandian’ (which came out in 1978).
Srividya got the Special award for ‘Madura Geetham’. 16 Vayathiniley made a clean sweep- with SJ, IR,Kamal and Bharathiraja collecting honours in the respective categories.
The only consolation for the film SNSM was the Award for the best kadhasiriyar to JK.
A bold story of a college student Ganga, who, one rainy evening, accepts a lift and allows herself to be seduced by a stranger in the back seat of his car- her life would never be the same again. Years later, she meets him, and they develop a platonic relationship- she is shunned by all, and in the end he too leaves her- where would she go now? What will she do next? - Lakshmi drapes over her shoulders the coat that Srikanth has left behind, and as she ruminates over her past, present and future, this song is heard as an asareeri from the aathmaa- and the film ends with the questions unanswered.
JK proved time and again that he was also a poet of rare merit. Read this verse written by him:
‘Vaazhvadhammunnar naan seththirundhen
Seththadhan pinnaalum vaazhndhiruppen
Sorvukku munnaal naan sugithirundhen
Sorvikku pinnaalum sugithiruppen
Viththukku munnaal naan vilaindhirundhen
Vilaivukku pinnaalum viththaaven
Mudivukku munnaal naan mudhalaanen
Mudindhaalum mudivukkor mudhalaaven
Asaivukku munnaal naan anuvaaven
Anu pilandhaalum pilavukkul asaivaaven’
How profound! JK has written a handful of film songs, and all of them are memorable:
Thenankeetru oonjalile (Paadhai theriyudhu paar- PBS-SJ), Azhudha kanneerum paalaagumaa (Paadhai theriyudhu paar-PS), Kandathai sollugiren (SNSM-MSV), Veru idam thedi(SNSM-VJ), Nadigai paarkkum nadagam (ONNP-Jolly Abraham-BSS), Ethanai malargal (ONNP-TMS-VJ), Chithirappoo selai (Pudhu seruppu kadikkum-SPB), Udal enbaar (Pudhu seruppu kadikkum-VJ), Pugazh serkkum (Ethanai konam Ethanai paarvai-MVD), Enna Vithiyaasam (EKEP-MVD,GA) and Ethanai konam (EKEP-MVD).
Veru idam thedi poovaalo
Indha vedhanayil irundhu meezhvaalo
Nooru murai ival purappattaal
Vidhi noozhilayil ival agappattaal
Paruvamazhai pozhiya pozhiya
payir ellaam sezhikkaatho
Ival paruva mazhaiyaale vaazhkkai
paalaivanam aagiyathe
Tharuvadhanaal peruvathanaal
uravu thaambadhiyam aagaatho
ival tharavillai, peravillai
thanimaramaai aanaale
Siru vayathil seitha pizhai
siluvai ena sumakkindraal--
ival marupadiyum uyirppaalo?
malarenave mugippaalo?
VJ’s voice, as usual, slips effortlessly into the prescribed mood, and she lends a tragic touch to the philosophical lyrics. The significance of the words is clearly highlighted by the manner in which she prolongs some of them- ‘Povaalo’, ‘Sezhikaatho’, and the manner in which she lays emphasis on some of them- ‘vidhi’, ‘tharavillai, peravaillai’ shows rare comprehension. Throughout the song, she showers heart-warming compassion, that we are left with heavy hearts, long after the film ends, bemoaning the fate of the wretched Ganga.
87. En Yoga jaadhagam- Indru pol endrm vaazhga –SPB-MSV
‘I did not deem it half so sweet
to feel thy gentle hand,
As in a dream thy soul to greet
across wide leagues of land
Untouched more near to draw to you
where, amid radiant skies,
glimmered thy plumes of iris hue,
My Bird of Paradise.
Let me dream only with my heart,
Love first, and after see:
Know thy diviner counterpart
before I kneel to thee.’
IPEV was a MGR horror directed by K Shankar and produced by Lakshmanan Chettiar. Heroine was MGR’s protégé- Radha Saluja (of Idhayakkani fame). Film also had Vijayakumar, VA Nirmala, Pandaribai and others.
MGR appeared as a rustic simpleton with a heart of gold, arriving in the big bad pattanam and setting right a few things. Other songs include ‘Idhu naattai kaakkum kai’-TMS, ‘Welcome Hero Happy marriage’-TMS,PS,BSS and the best of them all – ‘Anbukku naan adimai’-KJY.
The song seems to be the dream of Radha Saluja- and MSV tries to recreate the magic of ‘Azhagiya thamizh magal ival’- but somehow the song doesn’t appeal to that extent.
However it remains a good duet with a change of pace and tune in every charanam, like ‘Oru raja raniyidam’, and the chorus voices help to usher in the dreamy effect, as in ‘Kanavugaley aayiram kanavugaley’--
VJ: En Yoga jaadhagam-
naan unnai serndhadhu
Inba loga naadagam
un uravil kaanbathu
SPB:Un azhagu allavo-
ennai adimai kondathu
Then amudham allavo-
naan alli undathu
SPB:Pon vanna pushpangal un aadai aaga,
adhil thendral neendhattum kulir odaiyaaga!
VJ: Mai sindhum kannukkul undhan meni aada-
Indha sorga theevukkul sugam kodi theda!
SPB:Kadal neelam kondu jaalam kaattum karuvizhigal
VJ: Endha kaalam thorum paalam podum un vizhigal
SPB:En pathu viral thazhuva thazhuva
un muthu udal thuvala thuvala---
idhamo—
VJ: En kattazhagan kulava kulava
Kai thotta idam kulira kulira
Sugamo—sugamo—sugamo--
SPB:Thaththaikkoru meththayendru tholirandum aada
VJ: Viththaigalin arthangalai nee eduthu koora
SPB:Iravo pagalo madi meley
VJ: Varuven vizhuven kodi poley
SPB:Idhazho idaiyo parimaaru
VJ: Idhuvo adhuvo vilayaadu
SPB:Iravellaam inbam ennum poigai ingey pongum
nam angam neeraatta
Ennam ellaam un vannam paaraatta
VJ: Thangathai vairam sandhikkum neram
Aasaigal aayiram
Ulagellaam unnai sutri kanden kanna manna
en ullam thallaada
Mangai en kai
Un maalai endraada
MSV shows his class in the effortless transition to the pallavi after the charanams. VJ scintillates in her prolonging of ‘Sugamo’ and in the ‘Mehbooba’ like ‘Idhuvo adhuvo vilayaadu’.
88. Pudhumai penngal- Indru Pol Endrum Vaazhga- MSV
This is a song about the ‘modern girl’ – Bharathi’s ‘ Pudhumai penn’.
Chorus: Puratchi kalai kavithai nadaiye
Pongi perugum Gangai nadhiye
Pennin permai pesum azhage
Pudhumai penney varuga varuga
Then VJ begins her essay in a breezy, assured manner:
VJ: Pudhumai penngal arivukkakanngal
Pirandha naattin sirandha selvam
Endre naam vaazhom
Ilamaikkadhal urimaippaadal-
irandum engal inathil undu
endre naam paaduvom
Anbu raajaangam ingey kaanuvom-
angu ellorum ondraai vaazhuvom
The lyrics offer good counsel- this pudhumai penn doesn’t completely shrug off acham, vetkkam etc- she tells where these womanly qualities are still needed:
Acham endrum naanam endrum adakki vaithaargal-
Aanngal nammai aala thittam theetti vaithaargal!
Theemai thannai ennum pothu acham kollungal,
Paavam vandhu serum pothu vetkkam kollungal!
Pudhu panpaattai konjam keladi-
Idhai pann paadi sonnaan Bharathi--
Excellent song and VJ gives the punch lines a casual, yet strong delivery.
We can only sigh and convey our wishes to her ‘Andru pol indrum vaazhga!’
- 1977 to continue with Vani & Visu-
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.165)
on: Tue Sep 24 05:38:17 EDT 2002
Naaz/Neel/C V-
There-I've sent out the adutha adhiyaayam, but in post-haste- so please don't mind the more than normal quota of typos! Thank you for your patience and indulgence.
Neel- thanks for the latest uploads- Engengo sila manigal and Vizhiyo urangavillai (lovely!) are very much part of the 1977 creations.
Naaz- you write so well- I am lost in admiration.
- From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.67)
on: Tue Sep 24 06:19:11 EDT 2002
Saravanan,
Good work there.Yes JK was very adept at poetry too. But Main stream cinema wants lyrics as opposed to poetry. hence Jk's contribution is limited.
By the way i think BS-JK-Srikanth had one more movie Karunai ullam or Nenjam I am not sure. This followed in the wake of Nadigai Nadagam paarkiraal.
Srikanth - the eternal rapist of the early 70swith a funny brahmanical accent even if he was( or should it be were?) playing Abraham, Ahmed or Arumugam found his feet with these movies as also Mouli's Ivargal Vithyasamanavargal. He was getting noticed & in Durai's Sathurangam his name appears before the fast rising Rajnikanth.
kanthimathi played the heroine of Yaarukka azhuthan if my memory serves right & did a good job of it too.
sorry for going off in a tangent but these are the random thoughts that came as i read your post.
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.164)
on: Tue Sep 24 06:34:31 EDT 2002
Vengayam- Thanks.
I do remember 'Karunai Ullam'-1978. It was a great film with excellent performances by KRV,Srikanth (he played an epileptic) and Vijayakumar.Though I know it was by Bhimsingh, I wasn't sure if JK was involved in it.
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