Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)
"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."
Wow! Beautiful voice!
Neel's VJ Songs
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- From: susi (@ 216.209.200.18)
on: Thu Sep 19 11:11:17 EDT 2002
Hi Naaz,
Sorry, I dont have any of this numbers with me. All this songs were my mum's collection when I was in Malaysia.
- From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63)
on: Thu Sep 19 14:53:21 EDT 2002
Susi -
Your memory will serve us all well. I am optimistic!
Neel D -
Would it be possible to have a first line index list concurrently updated as new additions make their way in? Or is that way too much work to put together? An index would help in many ways, not least among which is the fact that first lines are remembered more than are movie titles, co-singer etc. (eg. my own data errors all over :-)) Just a thought.
- From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169)
on: Thu Sep 19 22:20:06 EDT 2002
bb,susi - thank you.
Naaz - thanks for the suggestion. I will work on it.
Everyone,
Four more songs from the album "Yeh Sawan kyon Barse" have been uploaded. Happy listening! http:/www.vanijayaram.com
- From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63)
on: Fri Sep 20 00:58:39 EDT 2002
Neel D -
Thanks for more of Sawan. I am sure every body here (whether they speak hindi or not,) will enjoy your new additions. It is a melodious album.
- From: Rgpm Sundar (@ 61.11.79.44)
on: Fri Sep 20 02:58:53 EDT 2002
Saravanan,
There is a PJ-VJ duet in Nenjamellam neeya by S-G. I rememeber the charanam starting with ...mundhanaal raathiri paakku thoppiley...and the charanam ends with ...thayodu thanthai aagavendum naamey...I am not able to recall the pallavi. Though the song is usual SG dandanakka stuff, I still like the song very much. Can you recall?
- From: outsider (@ 203.91.150.145)
on: Fri Sep 20 06:05:12 EDT 2002
Naaz, it was realy a tangent. In fact there is no forum for discussing the Urdu, called Hindi, songs so I thought I should be posting it in a topic that is frequented by the people who have a vast listening experience, so that they can analyse what I am saying.
- From: outsider (@ 203.91.150.145)
on: Fri Sep 20 06:08:03 EDT 2002
And it needs not be said that it was written with
full sincerity -- my conscience's voice.
- From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169)
on: Fri Sep 20 09:21:09 EDT 2002
Naaz, could you post a review or brief description of the what the new YSKB songs are about? Thanks in advance.
- From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63)
on: Fri Sep 20 09:56:16 EDT 2002
Neel D -
I will do my best. I hope language is not a barrier, and that all good music rasikas will listen to YSKB. Do you have the ghazal album of VJs titled "Parvaaz" (Songbird.) In that album VJ has some moving songs penned by Kaifi Azmi (great poet who passed on recently. Incidentally, also Shabana's father.)
- From: susi (@ 216.209.200.18)
on: Fri Sep 20 12:46:55 EDT 2002
more vani's songs
1. Chinanchiru therage thenaiilanirage sirusu Ilasu Vanthiruku Neragha - music SG
2. Pallodhu Then Kalanthe Abishegam - with TMS (Movie Gnana Kuzhanthai)
3. Anna Un Ithayam Naan Kanum Uzhagham - Annalakshmi
4. Yengum Theivam Inge Thoonghum Selvam Inge - (IR) Sonnathu Nee Thana
5. Kalai Maghale Unnai Azhakindren - movie ???
6. Idhaya Vanil ulavukindre Puthiya MEghame - with SPB (music Chandrabose)
7. Vanil Vazhum thevathai Yenthan Neril Vanthalo - with SPB movie Uruvangal Maralam
8. Ponne Poongodi mane penne Neeyedi - Ore Ratham
9. Yengnego Sila manigal - with SPB and PS
10. Nilavu Theyvathu Valarvathrkaghe yen aluthai kanne - Akka
11. Unna Thalathe al ialya (i heard this song only once I dont know thw movie, I think music by IR. It is a Thalathu song)
- From: Rgpm Sundar (@ 61.11.77.237)
on: Sat Sep 21 00:58:06 EDT 2002
Susi,
Chinnanchiru theraga ...is from Penn manam pesugirathu- with Sumalatha as heroine late 80s.
- From: outsider (@ 203.91.150.145)
on: Sat Sep 21 01:14:23 EDT 2002
After some years' gap, listened again the song, "konjum, malarmanjam, adil tanjam,
iroo nenjam,.....". The song literally "triggers off" with a burst. And
what a burst it really is! of rhythm, of sonority. This instrumental
music, leading to the first stanza, is the focal point of this song, setting
the movement and pace for the remaining part.
It was the song that for the first time acquainted me fully with the capabilities of
M.S Vishwanaathan, and forced me to take notice that MSV had his share
not only in the 60's and 70's but also in the 80's.
Neel D:
Thanks for giving me an occasion to re-experience this superb composition.
However there was some difference in the sound quality of the recording
in your website, and the one I used to listen on the radio. Wherefrom did
you digitalise it?
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.174)
on: Sat Sep 21 01:48:51 EDT 2002
R Sundar, the 'Nenjamellam Neeye' song goes 'Vayasupponnu thaniye ninnu siruppathenna rasippathenna thavippathennamma? Ammaaney, summa thaan--'
- From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63)
on: Sat Sep 21 11:14:49 EDT 2002
Saravanan -
I hope you've only stopped for re-fuelling. That VJ song-narrative train will be moving soon, I hope? :-)
(Why stop a good thing?)
- From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63)
on: Sat Sep 21 11:44:33 EDT 2002
As requested, a few quick notes on the new additions of YSKB at Neel Ds webpage.
Barso Re:
An Ode to Rain. Literally, the lyrics describe the many wonders and purposes of a downpour. The sitar opening is rapid and sets the tone (whats it about the sitar and the sound of rippling water?)and VJ establishes her credentials right from the get go on the vocal vartions of "Ras Ke Ghan" and the fades of "Barso" later on. The song rises aptly to capture the torrent and then melts into an embrace with the life force at the interesting shift "In Milna Tur Bahon Mein " (This line in Braj is beautifully paralleled in the Urdu line "Barkha Ki Aphuvaon Se"). Live becomes Love, Rain turns into Romance.
(In the song, when you are tuned in, I'd like to draw your attention to VJs emphasis on getting it right, pronunciation-wise. "Ghir," and "Phir" and "Zuroor" are every day words that have been eroded by their commonality, and hence not too many know how they DID (Had To) sound. These days,unfortunately, the "Ph" is usually "Fir or Fhir" and "Gh" is a flat ga. Let alone singers, many in my own family still say "Zaroor" when they should be saying "Zuroor" (Sure). Also look out for the R ending of Ghir and Phir - tonally made to correspond with gread effect by VJ.)
- From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169)
on: Sun Sep 22 00:56:20 EDT 2002
Naaz - Thank you. For someone like me with poor knowledge in Hindi your notes really helps to experience the mood and feeling behind the song. Please continue with the other songs too.
I have not heard the Ghazal album "Parvaaz". When was that released? Do you mind sharing those songs with everyone?
susi - Thanks for the latest list.
outsider - "konjum malarmanjam" was taken from an audio tape. What is the difference you hear?
Everyone,
Two new songs have been uploaded.
"enggenggO sila maNigaL" - a rare song by VJ/PS/SPB.
"ammAdiyO ammAdiyO" - next of Night Club series.
A monograph on VJ has been added. Written by Naaz. Please check it out.
http://www.vanijayaram.com
- From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63)
on: Sun Sep 22 10:23:01 EDT 2002
Neel D -
Thanks for the encouragement. I will keep adding a few short paragraphs on the YSKB additions. If it helps you, I know it must help at least six other people, even if they don't say so / or post in this thread. That is still a service, and I am happy to be able to help.
I will look for my copy of Parvaaz and send it to you if I find the recording to be still audioworthy. Please give me a week or so. Thanks.
- From: Saravanan (@ 194.170.1.130)
on: Mon Sep 23 00:54:22 EDT 2002
Naaz- No intention to stop, I assure you!
Pressure at work is the only reason. I post only from work, and the chronology needs continuous concentrated attention of at least an hour- that's why I am not very regular these days. I promise to post at least one episode a week. Please bear with me.
Thadangalukku varundhugiren.
- From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63)
on: Mon Sep 23 12:23:40 EDT 2002
Saravanan -
Thanks for the reassurance! I know it is a lot of work, and you need the space and time to maintain your high standards (which you've demonstrated all along.) We can be patient - it is well worth the wait!
Continuing on the YSKB quick takes:
Yeh Sawan Kyon Barsa?
An elegy for unrequited love. Oru Thalai Ragam, Oru Kai Osai, One Way Street...
The monsoon brings back memories of the beloved, heart-breaking, restless-making. The lover is distraught, wondering why her thirst was left unquenched...
"Woh Mujh Se Door Door Rehthe The, Dil Me Mere Zuroor Rehthe The..." Door(am) the distance, the noncommunicative posture, and yet so close to my heart, she says. The repetition of Reh (to stay) evokes a beautiful paradox of so close and yet so far. The word Zuroor (mentioned in the previous notes) is perfectly enunciated by VJ.
When the loved one leaves, courageless to change the world (Hum Zamana Bhi Badal Sakhthe The), careless about the budding flowers of love and desire (Pyar Ke Ph**l Khil Bhi Sakhthe The) - the heart is crushed, and like salt on wounds, the rain pours, a shower of memories, of having loved and lost...
The fade out with an echo of pain "yeh sawan, yeh sawan" is both accusatory and assuaging - the showers will pass, but the desire will reawaken every time the clouds gather and the skies come down as rain...The ending of the song is solitary and soul-scorching, and hauntingly done. (I could not help but compare this layering and lowering of the same voice with VJs tamizh song "Kaatrinile Varum Geetham (film title as well) from the early-80. The magic is still the same, I am happy to discover!)
- From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169)
on: Mon Sep 23 21:49:16 EDT 2002
Naaz - Thanks for the commentary. I read your commentary, tune to the mood and listen to the song. Just perfect! Keep them coming.
Saravanan - No rush. Take your time (but dont take too long).
Everyone - two new songs have been uploaded.
"viziyO uRanggavillai"
"azagiya kiLigaLin Urvalam"
Happy listening!
- From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.219)
on: Tue Sep 24 02:11:42 EDT 2002
Saravanan,
Just see if you can take time off 15 minutes in one go, save the draft, try again when you get another break! It might work! (Of course, you only know which style suits you best!). I am saying this because, in the past one month, your postings have been very few in the VJ thread (most important for many of us!)
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