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- From: Kupps (@ 199.180.6.44)
on: Tue Dec 9 10:59:53 EST 2003
polikaadu = poli + kaadu;
poli = bali (sacrifice).
so polikaadu (might) means sudugaadu (graveyard).
if what i interpreted is correct for polikaadu, then why a kuyil would koovify in polikaadu when a potta puLLa is born?
vaiy(i)ramuththuvukkae vaeLichcham (ai, idhu kooda VM style-la aedhugai mOnaiyOda irukkae).
but indeed is a very nice song showcasing that ARR is second to none when it comes to folk music also. somehow i like this movie's song than the karuththamma songs.
- From: OISG (@ 195.229.241.164)
on: Tue Dec 9 11:31:26 EST 2003
When VH Abdul Hameed interviewed ARR for SUN TV (1996 Pongal I think)he mentioned this song and said something like "ambience recording" or "natural sound".He also told that SPB himself was surprised to hear his own voice which sounded so rustic and natural.A good song.
"Machanai thinnayila"is a real good village crude humour!
Kupps,I think Poli kadu means "MadugaL Pul meyum idam" and not idugadu.
CV,noted the Vijayeta mistake.
- From: Da Vinci (@ 128.113.109.84)
on: Tue Dec 9 11:44:16 EST 2003
For one moment, I thought I was listening to ‘pAndiyan nAnirukka’ from 'tillAnA mokanambAL'. The Nagaswaram prelude somehow reminded me of that song.
There was a note that this was a good folk song. It sounds to me somehow a little contrived to me. AR Rahman probably had his imagination set to certain sound patterns as folk music (‘pOraLE ponnuthAiyi’ also sounds so to me). I listened to ‘onakenathAne innEramA…’ from ‘ponnu Urukku pudusu’ after this song just out of curiosity. I am not trying to make any inferior-superior comparison, but that song sounded more of a folk song to me. I guess one needs to have one’s roots when it comes to folk music.
- From: Raj (@ 206.97.63.112)
on: Tue Dec 9 11:46:26 EST 2003
kupps, OISG: poli here refers to mating of cattle. Polikkadu should mean area for cattle to mate. polikalai is a bull dedicated to mate.
Every herd of cattle taken for grazing has one or more such bulls. Polikalai is also used in derogatory manner to describe 'wandering' lads.
bb: Nice song. Now I understand why there were
queries in 'Learn Tamil through TFM' about maanoothu and polikadu!
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.235)
on: Tue Dec 9 12:32:25 EST 2003
One person involved in this song has so far not been mentioned- Bangalore Saravanamuthu Sasirekha.
In what is perhaps her only song for ARR, BSS sang her lines thrice separately and ARR synchronised them to bring a chorus effect. Listen to her 'pachai udambukkaari paarthu nadakka chollunga--'how much solicitude she fetches to the lines!
SPB is at his joyous best--the pride at becoming a thaaimaaman, and the celebrations it calls for are all so vibrantly expressed, even the rather coarse laughter after the crude lines is something that only he could carry off so well!
With all this, it was however Jayachandran who walked away with the honours at the State Govt. Awards for his 'Kaththalankaattu vazhi'!
- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Tue Dec 9 12:43:59 EST 2003
I just now realized.. It is not intentional that this is turning out to be a Bharathiraja vaaaaaaaaram, with kaNgaLaal kaidhu sei, tik tik tik and kizhakku cheemaiyilE one after the other :))
- From: aruna (@ 63.100.100.5)
on: Tue Dec 9 12:58:55 EST 2003
balaji naan enna sonnen nethikku, yaaranum lady voice pathi yen mention pannalanu ketpaanu sonnena illaya :-))
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.229)
on: Tue Dec 9 13:37:11 EST 2003
bb, 'manaivi solle mandhiram' theriyuma?
I meant the film, it had some good songs by IR ;)
- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Tue Dec 9 13:41:39 EST 2003
:)
Da Vinci, interesting observation about thillana mohanambaL song. I never made that connection.
- From: Raj (@ 206.97.63.112)
on: Tue Dec 9 13:42:55 EST 2003
Da Vinci: I tend to agree with you. Erukkampal,the milk (sap) from a form of kaLLi is used for female infanticide, if I remember correctly. I don't know whether the lyricist meant 'erumaippal' which people do not drink. Sounds like Tirunelveli area song. People from that area may shed some light!
- From: pKitcha (@ 66.176.167.250)
on: Tue Dec 9 18:05:38 EST 2003
Somehow I always thought 'Maanoothu' was inspired by another BR song, 'Vaadi en kappa kezhange'.
If you sang 'Vaadi' like this...
Vaadi yen kappa kezha
Vaadi yen kappa kezhange
it sounds exactly like 'Maanoothu' to me. Or could be just my imagination! :)
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.77)
on: Tue Dec 9 19:22:57 EST 2003
pKitcha - you are spot on. You can susbtitute:
potta puLLa porandadhunnu by
akkaa peththa mukkaathutte
bolikaattil koovum kuyile by
paadadhe vaaya thorandhe
nice obsvn.
- From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.195)
on: Wed Dec 10 00:51:20 EST 2003
Saravanan,
About 'tik tik tik' and 'karishma', around the same time, IV Sasi was directing a film called 'jigar' with kamal and Vijeta Pandit. Whereas, in 'karishma', Reena Roy was one of the heroines. Is it that 'jigar' was renamed as 'karishma' before release?
As regards Kamal and Sarika acting together, there was a film called 'raj tilak' in the making between 81-87, with Kamal playing a major role along with many veterans and Sarika as a gypsy and Reena Roy as a princess. The rest is, as they say, history!!
- From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148)
on: Wed Dec 10 00:56:15 EST 2003
Song of the Day: vaigai neeraada from Chinnanchiru kiLiyE.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/vaigaineer.rm
- Saravanan continues the GKV writeup:
‘vaigai neeraada’ from Chinnanchiru Kiliye. Sung by Malaysia Vasudevan & S.Janaki. Lyrics by GA. Music by GKV.
Continuing our stroll down memory lane with GKV, we find that the early 80s saw him continuing to be perched prettily as the most sought after MD in kfm. Also he made a mark in the few Tamil films that came his way.
* * * *
Flashback. Circa 1957. Teynampet Congress Grounds. A stage play was being enacted, and a singer was singing.
“Yaarda paadradhu?” asked MSV.
“Namma Raghavanda” replied GKV.
As the two friends stood watching the play, MSV is said to have regretted that they had forgotten their old friend ALR, and determined then and there to give him a break. After all they had known each other since the late 40s. ALR, then hardly in his teens, sang his first song in Vijayakumari-1950 (for Kumari Kamala!) and later was singing for stage plays. After GKV brought ALR back to MSV’s notice, ALR, along with Chandrababu sang ‘ Hello my dear Rami’ (Pudhayal- 1957). And with this song Ayyampettai Lakshmanan Raghavan commenced his chequered career as a playback singer in tfm.
ALR turned producer in 1980 (undeterred the dismal failure of Kallum Kaniyagum- 1968, which he co-produced with TMS). And though Raja Meenakshi films’ Kannil Theriyum Kathaigal (Stg. Saratbabu, Sripriya & Vadivukkarasi) proved a commercial catastrophe, ALR ensured a unique place for it in the annals of tfm, by getting 5 MDs compose its 5 songs: KVM (Vettaikkaaran malaiyilae- TMS), TR Papa (Onnu rendu moonu- BSS/SPS), IR(Naan oru ponnoviyam- SPB/PS/SJ), S-G( Naan unna nenachen- SPB/Jikki/VJ). The fifth song was by GKV, and his haunting composition ‘Naan paartha rathidevi yengae, naan ketta pudhu paadal engae’ was sung by ALR himself.
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Another film for which GKV composed music in 1980 was Sunrise Enterprises’ Chinnanchiru Kiliyae. (Directed by N.Chandrabose). No clue as to its cast etc, the record cover showed a small girl and a priest. Perhaps another supernatural thriller?
One interesting detail about its songs- it had 4 songs, and all the 4 were MV-SJ duets!
1.Sattimutti kazhuvavillai- Lyrics: GA
2.Kanthaangi selai- Lyrics: Poovai Senguttuvan
3.Vaigai neeraada- Lyrics: GA
4.Paavaadai dhaavaniyum- Lyrics: GA
‘Vaigai neeraada’ was the only song from the album that claimed attention on the radio in the early 80s. An unhurried song; mellifluous in its strain, melancholic in its vein. GA has poured in his lyrics the anguish of a love that seems unlikely to win in wedlock. MV and SJ so movingly portray the despair of lovers, whose love has suddenly culminated in a woeful ban, when they were happily awaiting their wedding banns. Yet they sing, dreaming of another birth, when they hope to reunite.
Another fine effort by GKV, wasted on a film that sank without a trace.
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.164)
on: Wed Dec 10 01:10:21 EST 2003
C V, Karishma was definitely the remake of Tik Tik Tik. I remember Vijeyeta Pandit as one of the heroines. Perhaps Reena Roy & Padmini Kholapure were the others?
Yes, I remember Raj Thilak too-Jamuna played the Rajmaatha, and there were a big cast.
- From: N.S. Devanathan (@ 203.199.211.197)
on: Wed Dec 10 03:44:26 EST 2003
I would like to tell u that one more film of GKV in the 80s had superhit songs. the film was "Malligai Mohini" starring Vikram and Latha. one was beautifully sung by SPB. The song was "en thalaivi irukkum idam" and the other one "Oru paadalai". May be the film was a remake of a kannada film.
- From: raj (@ 203.197.142.162)
on: Wed Dec 10 04:02:53 EST 2003
naan paartha radhi devi by ALR & PS
ALR said in an interview
Nice song
thanks Saravanan
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