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Topic started by bb (@ 24.4.254.104) on Tue Feb 20 03:21:22 EST 2001.
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Hi! We've made a major addition to newtfmpage, and that is a big song bank. Dhool features thousands of songs for your listening pleasure. This site is a part of the newtfmpage.com - swara.com group. Together with newtfmpage, we wish to make this the best place to listen to tamil film songs online and know about tamil film music. Our collection includes old, new, famous, rare and unheard of songs. We are still fine tuning and fixing the database errors, so please bear with us. We value your feedback, and this will help us build the site better. Please post your comments below or mail to comments@newtfmpage.com.
This work was done by us (bb and RR) with MS and swara.com ravi.

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• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.21) on: Wed Apr 21 01:07:19 EDT 2004
  
  Raj, is it 'Bade armaan se rakha hai balam teri kasam' (Malhar/1951/Darling Films/Mukesh & Lata/Roshan/ Indeevar)
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.21) on: Wed Apr 21 01:48:17 EDT 2004
  
  * armanon
  
  
• From: raj (@ 203.197.142.162) on: Wed Apr 21 02:53:50 EDT 2004
  
  a nice song !! MBS's score is awsome!!
  
  thanks Sara for this song
  
  
• From: Senty (@ 128.231.88.3) on: Wed Apr 21 09:56:14 EDT 2004
  
  Sara,
  great song...
  i have seen this movie long time ago.I have completely forgotten abt it.But as soon as i heard the first line.i remembered meneka taking care of her mother.BD's line's adapted nicely for the situation.VJ is as usually awesome.
  
  I think menaka will be travelling to see her dead mother,the bus breaks down and she think's this whole song in the bus.
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 217.165.111.90) on: Wed Apr 21 13:55:45 EDT 2004
  
  MBS/Sethumadhavan's choice of lyrics from Paavendar's collections,MBS 's caressing tune,VJ's involved singing -a classic!
  
  MBS has showed his liking for WCM in the prelude to "Thennankeetru" and various chorals.VJ's differnt "Amma" singing is another one to show where his interests were.But Behaag selection for this unique lullaby shows where his heart was.
  
  Since you have already chosen this one will "Vaanam namathu" be the opening song for your MBS-Perspective write up,Saravanan?
  
  Maneka's Mal debut ("Or MagaL Marikkumo" or OLangaL ?)-is also by Sethumadhavan?Maneka was thought to be Shoba's successor.NijangaL,Savithri-well there were opportunities provided but she failed to make it big.
  
  Thanks for the thanks Pal!etho entha allakayala mudinthathu...
  
  Udhaya,waiting!
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Wed Apr 21 17:09:45 EDT 2004
  
  Saravanan -
  
  A divine bracelet, a bloodline talisman, and a touchstone of affection and joy.
  What to say? Could there be a better example (of artistry in TFM) where less is so much, and much more?
  Not a song.
  A Solitaire.
  
  (Pon kidaiththadhu Pudhanudan! 2.52 Nimidangallukku Vidaamal Nandri Sonnaal Podhaadhu!)
  
  
• From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148) on: Wed Apr 21 22:54:31 EDT 2004
  
  Dear Balaji, Saravanan,
  
  Thanks for this rare melody. Some more info on the
  song -
  
  1) This is one of the first few songs tuned by MBS for
  his 'Madras Youth Choir' and is still sung fondly by
  its members (yes, the choir is alive and kicking, with
  most of the 'youth' in their sunset years!) whenever
  a programme is organised. I last heard it sung by them
  during a request concert arranged by my friend
  journalist Jnani a few years back. Everytime I hear
  this song, tears roll down my eyes which I never
  attempt to hide. Our sweetest songs are about saddest
  things and rememberences of the past, is it not so?
  
  2) MBS, as part of his ambitious plans to make
  Bharathi, Bharathidasan, Vallaththol and other
  national poets reach the poor and downtrodden children
  studying in the corporation schools in Chennai, took
  'amma unthan' too to the youngsters who were
  captivated by its sheer melody and the lyric. When a
  school students troop from Tamilnadu visited Delhi to
  participate in a national music competition, they
  chose to sing this number. But the organizers
  categorically told that only Hindi songs should be
  sung! The poor students and the teachers who
  accompanied them walked out of the hall with
  disapointment and then standing at the gates, sand
  'amma unthan' loud ans soulfully with pride, drawing a
  sizable gathering of onlookers. It was also reported
  in the vernacular dailies then (mid 80s).
  
  3) MBS has used one more song, 'uuzhikkoththu' by
  Mahakavi Bharathi (vedi padu mandilaththu idi pala
  thaalam poda) - originally tuned by him for Madras
  youth Choir - in another film for which he was the MD
  behind the screen and the protagonist on the screen -
  'Agrakaraththil Kazuththai' scripted by the eminent
  dramatist Naa.Muthusami of 'kooththup-p-pattarai' and
  directed by the maveric director John Abraham.
  
  
  rgds,
  era.murukan
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.24) on: Thu Apr 22 00:27:08 EDT 2004
  
  Senty, Thanks for giving more details about the song's situation in the film. Btw, you're the only person I've known who's seen the film!
  
  era.murukan Sir, Thanks a lot for the information.
  The more I hear/think about MBS, I wonder at the greatness of the man, leave alone his musical genius!
  
  R.S.Rajesh, a member of the Trivandrum Branch of the Youth Choir, says this in a mail that he wrote to me yesterday:
  
  __________
  
  Amma undhan kaivalaiyaay - this song is also a part of our choir songs. Our chorister had told us it is a melodius song. But since there are some difficult 'parts' in the interludes ,it seems so many members make mistakes,so it is not being taught for the past few years. Now let me try to influence him to teach us the song :))
  
  _____________
  
  R.S.Rajesh was also kind enough to mail to me some excerpts from a book on MBS-'Lets Sing Together' wherein Vani Jairam shares her memories of MBS.
  
  This is what VJ has to say:
  
  _________________
  
  A Great Humanitarian
  ----------------------
  I still can't believe that he is not with us
  anymore. Sri.M.B.Srinivasan was a great person, always generating great amount of warmth, compassion and fondness for one and all. Fighting for causes,noble and legitimate,he saw to it that justice was done to people at the proper time.
  
  I still remember one of his earlier programmes I attended in Madras by his group of singers. He made them sing so beautifully in perfect "Sur" and "Laya" that we were all moved to tears.
  
  A man who never angled for riches,fame and comforts in life,but kept on doing a perfect
  job of whtever he did. His group is one of the best we ever heard in our life.
  
  I had the privilege to work with him in a few
  movies. He was so thorough in his work and
  execution that I found it such a pleasure singing his compositions.It is very very rare to come across a person of such texture and calibre.
  It is the duty of everyone to carry on the perfection in singing,he so much strove for and that alone would do justice to his compositions. His sudden demise is a great loss to humnity and quality music.I sincerely pray for his soul and wish his group all strength and courage to bear the loss and continue the good work he started and keep his flag flying forever.
  
  - Vani Jairam
  _________________________
  
  'A Solitaire' it is, Naaz!
  
  
  
• From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148) on: Thu Apr 22 01:03:30 EDT 2004
  
  Song of the Day: ooru sanam from mella thiranthathu kadhavu.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/oorusanam.rm
  
  - Sung by S.Janaki. Music by M.S.Viswanathan and Ilayaraja.
  
  - Few songs capture the essence of night time so beautifully as this one. The song uses a lot of pauses, the silence emphasizing the mood of the song. People find the interludes of the song enchanting, but to me, the song is special due to its second charaNam. When SJ sings
  "maaman odhadu pattu
  naadham tharum kuzhalu
  naanaa maaRak koodaathaa",
  I lose myself everytime I hear her drawing out that line to depict the longing of a girl.
  She continues,
  "nilaa kaayum nEram
  nenjukkuLLE baaram
  mElum mElum eeram
  indha nEram thaan...
  indha nEram thaan"
  
  The fairly banal lyrics are by Gangai Amaran, I think.
  
  - newtfmpage has seen a lot of discussion on who composed this song and others in mellath thiranthathu kadhavu. It seems IR claimed in a TV programme that he composed this one, but few people disagree and point to classic MSV style touches in the song. There are others who write that MSV composed all the songs and IR just did the orchestration for them.
  
  - Lyrics and Notes for the song: http://www.newtfmpage.com/notes/ir/ooru_mtk.txt
  
  - MDs working with Other MDs: http://newtfmpage.com/forum/8148.17.57.46.html
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 12.40.225.2) on: Thu Apr 22 01:14:26 EDT 2004
  
  bb, Lyrics GAthaan !
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Raj (@ 208.164.98.89) on: Thu Apr 22 01:31:43 EDT 2004
  
  bb: nice song. It is 'bAram mElum mElum yErum' -
  'heavines in the heart increases more and more'.
  
  
• From: Raj (@ 208.164.98.89) on: Thu Apr 22 01:32:52 EDT 2004
  
  It is 'heaviness' - typo!
  
  
• From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148) on: Thu Apr 22 01:37:00 EDT 2004
  
  Raj, you are right. My typo.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148) on: Thu Apr 22 01:38:35 EDT 2004
  
  NagaS, I think this will be a good song where the lyrics could have been much better. What do you think?
  
  
• From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.11.66) on: Thu Apr 22 01:47:19 EDT 2004
  
  All the songs in MTK was (melody) composed by MSV and set to orchestration by IR.
  
  Our old forumer Srikanth had written an article once, when he witnessed the recording of Kuzhaloodhum kannanukku song, where also he mentioned these facts.
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 12.40.225.2) on: Thu Apr 22 03:27:35 EDT 2004
  
  bb,
  
  GA is not a bad kavinjar, But when it comes to village based songs, 'almost' all cine-kavinjas start thinking simple lyrics with some grameeya words is enough - Vairamuthu could be the only exception in this !
  
  If we see from another angle, athila thappillainnum thoNuthu ... May be it suits the character(s) .. do you think any villege girl will use 'kaviththuvamaana' varNanais, than simple words when it comes to singing abt her lover ?
  
  Remember 'kizhakkae uthiththa sooriyanae' from Citizen ? that song was 'good' in Vairamuthu standards, But when we see it in movie - illiterate meenavar koottam singing all those 'pure tamil puratchi' lyrics - sariyaa ottavae illai ...
  
  Nagas
  
  

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