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Topic started by bb (@ 24.4.254.104) on Tue Feb 20 03:21:22 EST 2001.
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Hi! We've made a major addition to newtfmpage, and that is a big song bank. Dhool features thousands of songs for your listening pleasure. This site is a part of the newtfmpage.com - swara.com group. Together with newtfmpage, we wish to make this the best place to listen to tamil film songs online and know about tamil film music. Our collection includes old, new, famous, rare and unheard of songs. We are still fine tuning and fixing the database errors, so please bear with us. We value your feedback, and this will help us build the site better. Please post your comments below or mail to comments@newtfmpage.com.
This work was done by us (bb and RR) with MS and swara.com ravi.

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• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.24) on: Mon Apr 19 01:07:46 EDT 2004
  
  Da Vinci, S-G's first film 'Nagarathil Thirudargal' was a non-starter. The first film to have been released with S-G's music was Maharasi-1967.
  
  
• From: purv (@ 198.38.6.253) on: Mon Apr 19 10:46:33 EDT 2004
  
  * (whatever that may stand for), thanks for the site! Krakow, what a collection! Right now, I am hearing the 'Pagalil Oru Iravu' song, 'Thaamthaa Theemthaa'; sounds much different than I had ever suspected!
  
  
• From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148) on: Tue Apr 20 02:23:28 EDT 2004
  
  Song of the Day: andharangam naan aRivEn from Ganga Gowri.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/andharangam.rm
  
  - AthinAthan kEtkinRaan from the same film was featured as SOTD earlier. Read on for more information on the film: http://www.dhool.com/sotd2/254.html . Incidentally, when I posted this song, several persons commented that the best song from the film was andharangam naan aRivEn. Here it is!
  
  - This melodious semi-classical song is sung by P.B.Srinivas and S.Janaki. Music by M.S.Viswanathan.
  
  - Thanks to Sathiya Keerthi for this song. He writes:
  
  That song is probably the only song for which Sivakumar got PBS' voice. It comes for a funny divine situation. Lakshmi leaves Vishnu after a fight. To get her back Naradhar (Cho) suggests an idea, that he become a woman and sing with Vishnu and that'll cause jealousy in Lakshmi; The song comes at that point; a duet between Lady Naradhar and Vishnu!
  
  - Raagam Baageshwari?
  
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28) on: Tue Apr 20 02:50:01 EDT 2004
  
  While SJ glides through her sangathis effortlessly PBS sounds terribly out of sorts in this song. Raga does sound close to Bageshwari, although being a MSV song you never know whether he strictly sticks to the scale till the end of the song
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.24) on: Tue Apr 20 02:50:55 EDT 2004
  
  Thanks sk/bb for this magnificent song!
  
  PBS spoke at length about this song. While he was all praise for SJ, he felt he could have sung it better. When we protested and said that he had sung it well, he explained that he wasn't feeling well when the song was recorded. He continued to express his dissatisfaction over his rendition.
  
  Btw, PBS has sung another song for Sivakumar: 'Thendrale nee pesu' (Kadavul Amaitha Medai) featured as SOTD earlier.
  
  This song featured Kumari Padmini with Sivakumar.
  
  
• From: raj (@ 203.197.142.162) on: Tue Apr 20 04:12:08 EDT 2004
  
  a nice song
  
  
• From: T (@ 12.33.141.40) on: Tue Apr 20 10:37:40 EDT 2004
  
  there was another 'ganga gowri' with Dindukkal leoni right ??
  
  
• From: GCT_Kuil (@ 64.175.240.192) on: Tue Apr 20 12:31:31 EDT 2004
  
  Yep, T you are right! It should in 1990s. I think hero is Arunkumar pairing with Sangeetha!
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.28) on: Tue Apr 20 12:45:41 EDT 2004
  
  T, the later Ganga Gowri came out in 1997. It starred Arunkumar, Leoni, Vadivelu, Manthra, Sangeetha and others. Music was by Sirpi (songs like Poovukkul Pudhyal, Bul Bul dhaara etc). Lyrics by Pazhani Bharathi. Directed by Matheswaran.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2) on: Tue Apr 20 12:57:51 EDT 2004
  
  I guess the one and only film for Dindukkal Leoni (thankfully) :)
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 195.229.241.170) on: Tue Apr 20 13:21:11 EDT 2004
  
  PBS has taken efforts to reduce the "heaviness" ,perhaps a last ditch effort to stay tuned for the 1970s.Bageswari accomodates the tiredness in PBs voice.In all a reasonable effort from PBS.SJ's exuberance - a curtain raiser for the late 70s that was to follow.MSV's another complete album - a Bageswari,Sahana and an outstanding amritavarshini which actually brought the rains.(SJ will vouch for that!)
  
  As usual i attempted the mix and this song's pallavi can be followed with "chinnan chiru malar paniyinil nanainthu"( Nee ennenna sonnalum) for the charanams.
  
  Sivakumarkku yaar padinaal enna? Parabrahmam jagannatham-yaathoru expressionum illama avar paatukku thani kaatu raajiyam nadathikondiruppar-blissfully unaware of the song-sequence-movie-co stars!But Kumari Padmini is not one of those women who can instigate jealousy!"Funny-divine" -that must be the coinage of the 21st century.
  
  
• From: Surya (@ 204.60.84.2) on: Tue Apr 20 14:17:42 EDT 2004
  
  bb: namma Manthra-vaame andha padathula.. :))
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 65.136.66.83) on: Tue Apr 20 14:36:00 EDT 2004
  
  OISG,
  mixing the pallavi with other suitable charanams is one of my favorite games too. I started a thread in DF just for that. I will revive it for you. Please contribute there. Your knowledge of music and raagas will bring out many more such combinations than I can manage. I look forward to this.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2) on: Tue Apr 20 14:56:08 EDT 2004
  
  Surya, of course. Why else did I see the film? :)
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.164) on: Tue Apr 20 15:04:23 EDT 2004
  
  Idha--idha ethirpaarthu thaan starcast-a full-a ezhuthinen ;)
  
  OISG, haven't you heard of 'The Divine Comedy' by Dante? :)
  
  
• From: Surya (@ 204.60.84.2) on: Tue Apr 20 15:11:18 EDT 2004
  
  bb: Rags indha thread-ku varradhillaye? :))
  
  
• From: Rosavasanth (@ 157.82.18.234) on: Tue Apr 20 23:48:17 EDT 2004
  
  what a surprise! I searched for this song, and could not play in usual Dhool player(as it happens most of the time), just few minutes back.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148) on: Wed Apr 21 00:12:10 EDT 2004
  
  Rosavasanth, I tried just now and could play it. May be you can download it (http://www.dhool.com/sotd/andharangam.rm ) and play it locally.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148) on: Wed Apr 21 00:19:40 EDT 2004
  
  Song of the Day: amma undhan kaivaLaiyaai from nijangaL.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/ammaundhan.rm
  
  - Saravanan writes on this rare Bharathidasan/M.B.Srinivasan song:
  
  ‘amma undhan kaivaLaiyAi’ from nijangaL. Sung by Vani Jairam. Bharathidasan’s verses set to music by M.B.Srinivasan.
  
  Ramya Chitra’s Nijangal- 1982 was directed by K.S Sethumadhavan. I have not seen the film, but recollect reading somewhere that it was an off-beat venture, narrating the events subsequent to the breaking-down of a bus, and the varied experiences/ responses of the passengers therein, punctuated with riveting recapitulations of some of their stories.
  
  The film had 3 songs:
  
  1.Namma India desam kooda ippadithaan- TMS & Chorus (Vaali)
  2.Un kaathodu kaathodu seithi sonnaal enna- SPB & SPS (Vaali)
  3.Amma undhan kai valaiyaai- VJ & Chorus (Bharathidasan)
  
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  These verses form part of a longer poem by Bharathidasan that was published in a collection of his works called ‘Oru Thaaiyin Ullam Magizhgirathu’. While many of Bharathidasan’s verses have become part of tfm history, Bharathidasan also wrote lyrics specifically for a few films in the early years. His first film as a lyricist was Sri Ramanujar (1938/ Yessel Films), though Balamani (or Pakka Thirudan/ 1937/ Sri Shanmugananda Talkies), released a year earlier was the first to carry his songs. He wrote both the script and lyrics for Kaalamegam(1940/ Sri Dhandapani Films). He then joined the Modern Theatres and wrote for films like Subadra-1946, Sulochana-1947, Aayiram Thalai Vaangiya Aboorva Chinthamani-1947 and Ponmudi- 1950. The last film for which Bharathidasan penned lyrics was Valaiyaapathi (1952/ Modern Theatres), for which he wrote the dialogues as well. And when his line ‘Kamizhnthidum poovillelaam’ was altered to ‘Kulungidum poovillellam’ without his consent, Bharathidasan is said to have stormed out in indignation from the Studios, never to return.
  
  Meanwhile, the fad of using verses from Bharathidasan’s poetry collections for film songs had caught on. Or Iravu - 1951(‘Thunbam nergayil yaazheduthu nee’) set the trend. And R.Sudarsanam used Bharathidasan’s lines again in Parasakthi-1952 (‘Vaazhga vaazhga vaazhgave’). Over the years, both while Bharathidasan was alive and afterwards, many MDs have set his verses to tune: MSV-TKR did it in their very first film Panam-1952 (‘ Pasiyendru vandhaal oru pidi soru’) and later in among their last films together- Panchavarnakkili –1965 (‘Thamizhukkum amuthendru peyar’); Govindarajulu Naidu (‘Andha vaazhvu thaan endha naal varum’/Andaman Kaidhi / 1952), S.Dakshinamoorthi -of course he was the MD for Valaiyaapathi as well- (‘Adho paaradi avare en kanavar’/ Kalyani/1952), G.Ramanathan (‘Pandian en sollai thaandipponaandi’/ Thirumbippaar/ 1953 & ‘’Neelavaan aadaikkul udal maraithu’ /Gomathiyin Kaadhalan/1955), Aadhi Narayana Rao & M.Ranga Rao (‘Thaayagame vaazhga thaayagame vaazhga’/ Poonkothai/ 1953), T.G.Lingappa (‘Vennilavum vaanum pole’ / Kalyanam Panniyum Bhramachari/ 1954), C.S.Jayaraman (‘Aalaiyin sange nee oodhaayo’ / Rathakkaneer/ 1954), T.R.Papa (‘Thalaivaari poochootti unnai’/ Rangon Radha/ 1956), T.R.Ramnath (‘Aadarkkalaikkazhagu thedappirandhaval’/ Naane Raja/1956), R.Sudarsanam again (Vetkkamillai vetkkamillai’ /Kuladeivam/1956 & ‘Valiyor silar eliyor thamai’ / Manimagudam/1966), S.Rajeswara Rao (‘Paadi paadi paadi vaadi’ & ‘’Orey oru paisa’/ Petra Manam/ 1960), Kunnakkudi Vaithyanathan (‘Engengu kaaninum sakthiyada’/ Namma Veettu Deivam/1970), Shankar-Ganesh (‘Chithira Cholaigale’/ Naan Yaen Pirandhen/1972), Ilayaraja (‘Kaalai ilam parithiyile’/Kannan Oru Kaikkuzhandhai/1978) and Vidyasagar (‘Thoongum puliyai’/ Puratchikkaran/2000). And at times the same song has found place in more than one film: ‘Sange muzhangu’ was heard first in En Magal (1954/ MD: C.N.Pandurangan) and later in Kalangarai Vilakkm (1965/ MD: MSV). ‘Pudhiyadhor ulagam seivom’ was heard first in Chandrodhayam (1966/ MD: MSV) and again in Pallandu Vaazhga (1975/ MD: KVM), though in the earlier song, the charanam lines were from other works of Bharathidasan.
  
  Tfm has thus been gloriously enriched time and again by the immortal verses of Bharathidasan. Today (April 21st), as we observe the 40th death anniversary of the great Paavendar, let us salute his hallowed memory.
  
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  Though I have most of Bharathidasan’s songs in tfm in my collection, this one had eluded me for long, and finally I managed to record it from Radio Ceylon some years back. (Thanks to OISG for helping out in the mp3 conversion)
  
  I have seen the song in OLiyum Oliyum: The sequence is that of Menaka taking care of her mentally deranged mother Anandi. As she lovingly nurses her mother, combs her tresses, feeds her a few morsels, and patiently does all that her mother would have done for her when Menaka was an infant at her bosom, this song is the wondrous backdrop that multiplies manifold the melancholy of this reversal of the mother-daughter roles. MBS bases his composition largely on Behaag, rightly harnesses Vani’s voice to bring lilting lustre to Bharathidasan’s lines, and as is his wont, intelligently intersperses chorus voices to enhance the poignant emotions that the song evokes.
  
  VJ’s eyes brimmed with cascading memories as I asked her about this song. ‘It was just then that I had lost my mother’ she said softly. ‘And it was a disquieting co-incidence that the first song that I was called to sing after her demise was this one. Though I finished the recording in a single take, I was moved by the lyrics, and had to control myself from breaking down’.
  
  
• From: Raj (@ 208.164.98.89) on: Wed Apr 21 00:55:21 EDT 2004
  
  bb: Great song!
  saravanan: I think the tune for 'Kulungidum poovilellam thenaruvi' was copied from a Hindi song. Do you know the song?
  
  

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