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Lyrical abaththams

Topic started by cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on Thu Aug 3 12:24:35 EDT 2000.
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i was listening to "mellap pesungal" from "kasedhaan kadavulada". it goes "mellap pesidavo pirar ketkakkoodaamal". does this word exist in tamil? isn't this an example of lyrical abaththam? pls correct if wrong.

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• From: Ganga (@ 129.253.193.118) on: Thu Aug 17 13:40:55 EDT 2000
  
  Hee hee hee Vidhya!! you are caught now. Which indhiran's legal son is Jayandhan?
  
  
• From: Vidhya (@ 204.164.111.130) on: Thu Aug 17 14:01:00 EDT 2000
  
  ranga: :) sure you did.. Shud be the one who ruled heaven during threathaayugam.
  A story from RaamayaNam confirms it..
  Jayandhan took the form of a crow and was disturbing seetha and Raamar oru baaNam vittu, wounded the crow's eye.
  
  
• From: nakkeeran (@ 205.227.43.11) on: Thu Aug 17 15:21:12 EDT 2000
  
  cram,
  
  heard of 'panneer pushpangal'??( kodai kaala kaatre.. wud've definitely made you hear of it!) i guess panner maram could be derived from here.
  
  
  
• From: Chitra (@ 63.25.105.94) on: Thu Aug 17 20:00:24 EDT 2000
  
  "oru ponnu onnu naan parthen
  cm sirika solli ketten
  ava siricha siripile 100 peru sethu poita"
  
  I cannot make out what type of song/mood it conveys. Later on lines make it sound like a mutual admiring song, but "100 peru sethu poita" does not seem complimenting. Perhaps someone can explain
  Thanks
  
  
• From: KSS (@ 152.163.206.186) on: Thu Aug 17 21:34:37 EDT 2000
  
  Another lyrical abaththam :
  
  One of the ending lines in the song "Yedho Oru paattu yen kaadhil ketkum". Dont know the lyricist.
  
  "Pookkalin Mele Pani Thuli paarthaal Muga Paru Nyaabagame."
  
  Yuck....
  
  This is taking it into aruvaruppu territory.
  
  Whoever wants to compare dew drops to Facial Acne. Not romantic at all.
  
  
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 194.149.80.1) on: Fri Aug 18 00:20:02 EDT 2000
  
  KSS.,
  I don't feel so.,
  Kannaththukku poovum., Mugap paruvukku panith thuLiyum nalla uvamaithaanee ? :-)
  NagaS
  
  
• From: KSS (@ 152.163.204.177) on: Fri Aug 18 01:32:28 EDT 2000
  
  NagaS,
  
  Never fancied Mugapparu.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 64.244.43.17) on: Fri Aug 18 08:11:46 EDT 2000
  
  Chitra is it 100 peru sethu poittan or chinna paiyan sethu poittaan???
  (probably she didnt brush her teeth for few months?:))
  
  
  KSS the line you mentioned is a beautiful uvamai
  'pooKal mele pani thuLi'
  
  Kadhali mugathai poovagavum adhil thondrum paruvai
  pani thuLiyaagavum padugiraan kadhalan
  pani thuLiyum mariandhuvidum...paruvum karaindhuvidum
  
  This song in total was very well done by kalaikumar
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185) on: Fri Aug 18 10:24:15 EDT 2000
  
  KSS - you have one more in your team :-), though I do appreciate all the other lines.
  
  
• From: Vidhya (@ 204.164.111.130) on: Fri Aug 18 18:20:20 EDT 2000
  
  mookuthi poomaelae kaathu ukkaarndhu pesudhamma..
  
  ?????
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 63.89.188.122) on: Fri Aug 18 20:08:14 EDT 2000
  
  I have some lesser abaththams:
  -Poo mela veesum poongaatrae (word drought category)
  -maanin iru kangal konda maanae maanae
  thaenin suvai kannam konda thaenae thaenae(overkill category)
  
  
• From: karthi (@ 63.24.167.209) on: Fri Aug 18 22:29:58 EDT 2000
  
  KSS, I am with you, too! Pimples are disgusting by all means! Adhil azhagu endru ondru kidaiyaadhu. Adhaip pOi panith thuLiyOdu oppiduvadhu panith thuLikkE kEvalam! This does not belong in this category...we must start a thread for "aruvaruppu, asingam and kEvalamaana songs" and put this as the first song there! Sorry Ramki and NagaS, NOM:))
  
  
• From: nakkeeran (@ 205.227.43.11) on: Fri Aug 18 23:01:44 EDT 2000
  
  adding to the maane thaene category:
  
  nilaave vaa.. from mouna raagam:
  .. ore oru vaarthai sonnaal enna maane..
  ore oru paarvai thandhal enna thaene..
  
  shouldn't they be exactly opposite?
  
  
• From: Cheenu (@ 63.253.227.132) on: Sat Aug 19 02:48:58 EDT 2000
  
  Karthi...'NOM with a :-))' is the oldest trick in town. You know, you just keep vomitting out whatever comes to your mind and suffix all your 'posts' with a 'NOM:-))'. Wah....re....wah..
  NOM :-))
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185) on: Sun Aug 20 01:16:23 EDT 2000
  
  SL:
  
  I know it is difficult to check a friendly banter, but don't you think you are hitting karthi over and over ? :-)
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Sun Aug 20 05:36:35 EDT 2000
  
  panner pushpangale
  raagam paadu
  
  shouldn't it be paadungal? on with the next line:
  unnai pole enthan ullam. again singular/plural problem. it should be either "ummai" or "ungalai". not an abaththam, but grammatical errors.
  
  similarly,
  
  kaalam kaninthathu kadhavugal thiranthathu from madai thiranthu
  
  it should be kadhavugal thiranthana.
  
  
  
• From: Murali (@ 4.16.61.107) on: Sun Aug 20 09:56:49 EDT 2000
  
  Hi all:
  I was listening to "Ilaya nila pozhigiradhey.." song from Payanangal Mudivadhillai.
  I was stumbled on the "ilakana pizhai" in the line :
  "Mughil inangal alaigirathey..mugavarigal.."(mistakingly singular)
  
  Should n't it be "Mugil inangal alaiginrana....mugavarigal..." (plural)
  
  Neengal...enna solla pogireergal ???
  
  Anbudan,
  Murali.
  
  
  
• From: e (@ 61.1.250.184) on: Mon Aug 21 00:50:46 EDT 2000
  
  idhazhE, idhazhE, thEn vENdum - OK
  idayE, idayE, `kani' vEndum -what does it mean?
  (Is the film `idhayakkani' for this SPB song? Who's the lyricist BTW?)
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Mon Aug 21 06:14:14 EDT 2000
  
  e
  
  padam peru idhayakkani-ya idaiyakkaniya:-)))?
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 63.89.188.104) on: Mon Aug 21 10:48:23 EDT 2000
  
  e,
  idai is also known as kodi idai, so idaiyila kani thaeduraar, maybe grapes!!!
  
  I'm just attempting an explanation, don't take my word for it.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 216.217.80.201) on: Mon Aug 21 13:32:33 EDT 2000
  
  in the song "annan oru kOyilendraal...", a line goes as follows:
  ponnai vaiththa idaththinilE poovai vaiththup paarppadharkku
  aNNananRi yaarumundO..
  what does it mean? i thought ponnai vaiththa idaththil poovai vaippadhu was derogatory:)
  
  
• From: Pal (@ 199.43.32.21) on: Mon Aug 21 14:29:33 EDT 2000
  
  bb: Here by poovai he means the girl.
  
  you might hv heard people saying 'en thangachi asal thangamda'
  
  
• From: pg (@ 12.20.190.1) on: Mon Aug 21 14:31:36 EDT 2000
  
  idhazhE, idhazhE, thEn vENdum - OK
  idayE, idayE, `kani' vEndum - what does it mean?
  
  ennappA idhu - idhukkellam vyAkkiNam ezhudha mudiyumA ?
  
  Sexy songs-il irukka vEndiya posting-i ingE post seyyAdheergaL.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 216.217.80.201) on: Mon Aug 21 16:50:30 EDT 2000
  
  thanks, pal.. i didn't know that meaning.
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185) on: Mon Aug 21 18:54:20 EDT 2000
  
  pal:
  
  poovai = flower "i"
  poovaiyai = girl "i"
  
  The word poo means flower whereas the word poovai means girl. Hence, I also think it is a stupid line.
  
  Infact there is one tamil poem by one of the recent poets (forgot the name):
  
  "ponnai vaikkum idaththinilE - oru
  poovai vaiththidal vENdumendru
  kannaR pulavar kavigaLugadan - en
  kaviyum nin kazal vaiththu nindrEn"
  
  This was intended to be a thamizththaai vaazththu before the original theme starts.
  
  
• From: Radhai (@ 171.71.146.253) on: Mon Aug 21 20:09:43 EDT 2000
  
  Theres this song from KaavalKaaran written by Vaali, which had these lines
  
  'Kaadhu koduthukketten, kuvaa kuvaa satham'
  that was highly criticized by DMK then. You cannot hear a baby when it is in the womb
  
  Another piece of lyric which I found was
  'Mangai aval vaai thirandhaal malligai poo vaasam'
  
  from Punnagai mannan. No one would want that!!!
  
  
• From: karthi (@ 63.24.167.88) on: Mon Aug 21 23:20:06 EDT 2000
  
  MS, bb and pal,
  
  I felt "ponnai vaikkum idathinilE poovai vaithu paarpadharku" (when I heard this song most recently) meant this:
  
  "pon vilai uyarndhadhu. poovO azhagaanadhu aanaalum malivaanadhu. Ponnirku badhilaaga yaarum poovai vaangavO tharavO maattaargaL. Appadich cheivadharku periya manam vEndum. Appadippatta manam padaithavar ingu aNNanaith thavira vEru yaar?!"
  
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Tue Aug 22 04:53:41 EDT 2000
  
  karthi,
  
  in many movies, i have come across the line, usually uttered by a loving brother: "ponnai vaikkara idathula poovai vaichchirukken", with reference to his sister. i think it means that the brother regards his sister (the "poo") more than gold.
  
  radhai,
  punnagai mannan songs are full of abaththams. athukkunnu thani thread-E aarambikkanum:-))
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 64.244.40.55) on: Tue Aug 22 08:10:20 EDT 2000
  
  Do the lines
  
  'akkam pakkam suthi parthu
  thalaikku mele thanni oothu' (from 'aedho mogam aedho dhaagam')
  
  have any 'inner' meaning??
  
  
• From: Pal (@ 199.43.32.21) on: Tue Aug 22 09:22:39 EDT 2000
  
  MS:
  
  In Tamil it is not necessary that you have to 'poovaiyai(girl-i) vaithu paar' you can write 'poovai(girl) vaithu paar'
  
  For eg: all these sentences are right.
  kOyilai kandavudan poo(flower) vaithu kumbittan.
  kOyilai kandavudan poovai(flower-i) vaithu kumbittan.
  
  peN viduthalai patri pEsinaar
  peN viduthalaiyai patri pEsinaar
  
  kadhula poo vachuttaan.
  kadhula poovai vachuttaan.
  
  So In that song if you take poovai- as girl it is right.
  
  
  
  
• From: Pal (@ 199.43.32.21) on: Tue Aug 22 09:29:58 EDT 2000
  
  Ramki: idhu ennOda view
  
  paatu kadhalargaL viraga daapathila paadara maadhiri scene.
  sootai kuraipathurku thalaikku thanneer ootruvaargaL.
  giramathula bathrroom veLiyila irukkum.
  kuLichaa mathavungaLukku theriyum.
  ennada indha ponnu artha jaamathula kuLikiraaLennu paapaanga.
  
  adhanaala kaadhalankitta akkam pakkam suthi paathu thalaiku maela thanni ooothu -nnu paadaraanga.
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ 207.43.195.202) on: Tue Aug 22 10:21:43 EDT 2000
  
  bb, MS, pal,
  
  ponnu vaikkira idaththila poo vaikkaradhu is a typical brahmin expression to suggest a mangaLamaana substitution to compensate for absence of means. For weddings it is normally the bride's party which spends, and where the father is not alive or say, retired the financial responsibility falls on the elder brother. If the bride's family resources are modest it is common to say 'pon vaikkira idaththilEy poo (flower) vachchu kaariyaththa nadaththiduvOm'. That is the meaning suggested in this song.
  
  
• From: Ganga (@ 129.253.193.118) on: Tue Aug 22 12:02:05 EDT 2000
  
  Pal, cinema paattukku uRai ezudha aarambichutteengaLaa? kalakkunga!!!
  
  

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