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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: sabesan (@ 64.163.212.223) on: Mon Jun 4 14:33:57 EDT 2001
  
  iam listening to the "aasaai dosaaaI" song in STAR..... there is this music that comes at the very beginning of the song, which we hear through out the song in the back..... i remember hearing the same one long time back in the film "Indiran CHandiran" for the song "Aaaraarooo Arirrooo" song sung by Mano (a sad melody)..... can someone confirm if they are the one and same ?
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.169.188.186) on: Tue Jun 5 06:21:54 EDT 2001
  
  Any idea who composed this song 'Dhoora desam poReekaLaa, thuraththikkitte vaareegaLaa' song (sung by Sujatha and a male voice - srinivaas ?)., May be from Sinehithiyee by Vidyasagar,
  
  This song is heavily inspired by IR's 'Arisikuththum akkaamakaLee' - especially flute beats !
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.130.13) on: Tue Jun 5 07:46:56 EDT 2001
  
  There is a song called Kaviyathil Ezuthi Vaitha Kaaviyath Thalaivi in "Kaviyath Thalaivi". The strating of that song was like the starting of "Amuthey Thamize Azakiya Moziye". Can anyone check it and tell?
  
  
• From: confused (@ 210.214.5.192) on: Tue Jun 5 08:31:00 EDT 2001
  
  NagaS, `flute beats'????
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Tue Jun 5 10:02:06 EDT 2001
  
  :-))))
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Fri Jun 8 08:34:35 EDT 2001
  
  if the following was not discussed then:
  sangadamaana samayala vittu sangeedham paada poraen, aalindia radio-vil adiyaenum paada poraen from Sabapathy(??)      and
  Naarkalikku sanda podum naadu nam bharadha naadu naan sonna kaetpadhu yaaru naaLum nee paper-a paaru from Gurusishyan
  
  These two matches atleast until the words I have written.
  
  
• From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Fri Jun 8 10:22:25 EDT 2001
  
  kupps, good catch! , they are very very close.
  infact sandams are the same.
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.62.83.34) on: Sun Jun 10 07:06:17 EDT 2001
  
  confused,
  Sorry I was 'confused' at that time, so I said 'Flute Beats' - it should be 'Flute Bits'
  
  Ippo sarithaanaey ? ;-)
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Sangeeth (@ 205.188.193.13) on: Sat Jun 16 13:14:47 EDT 2001
  
  The song 'ennudaiya laila varaaLe stylea' by vijay in Badri is an exact copy of Deva song 'undhillai nainaa ulagam endhille nainaa, endhille nainaa mudivu undhille nainaa'
  
  People copy from Deva too :)
  
  
• From: ~~arochordidae~~ (@ 204.50.249.133) on: Sat Jun 16 19:51:02 EDT 2001
  
  please don't even talk abt Badri. In my opinion, I didn't like it one bit :( (the songs and movie)...and vijay too..hehe:)
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ ) on: Mon Jun 25 05:23:32 EDT 2001
  
  again, a doubt
  
  is the song semmari yaadae semmari yaadae solvadhu sariyaa sol..sevatha ponnu ivatha ninnu thavikkalaama sol from UZHAVAN MAGAN has anything common with(ie. inspired from) sangadamaana samayala vittu sangeedham paada poraen???
  
  pundits please clarify
  
  
• From: raghau (@ 164.164.86.86) on: Mon Jun 25 08:47:53 EDT 2001
  
  how about
  
  Vechukkava unna mattum nenjukkulla?(nallavanukku nallavan)
  &
  mathaappai chuttu chuttu podattuma? (poovey poochoodava)
  
  
• From: S (@ 64.104.128.15) on: Tue Jun 26 09:58:49 EDT 2001
  
  Bach's violin concerto in A minor seems to be the
  inspiration for the song kavidhaigal sollavA (uLLam koLLai pOgudhE )...The first 10 seconds of bach's piece reminds me the tune and the first interlude.
  
  
• From: Pandi (@ 144.9.158.89) on: Tue Jun 26 11:23:59 EDT 2001
  
  Rahman's song in the hindi movie- one two ka four - Kusihyan gun gunane lagi ....... is very very similar to the hit song from SeevalperaPandi.
  Anyone felt the same?
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Wed Jun 27 23:17:49 EDT 2001
  
  Hisham Abbas, the Egyptian singer has just launched his new album in India. The main track from this album 'Nari Narain' is already on air and the video is very ethnic and colourful. It also features apart from Hisham singing in Egyptian, an Indian singer, Jayshree T singing in hindi!
  
  Now why am I saying all this in this forum? 'Cos if you recall, Hisham's earlier hit 'ahla ma feki' gave Sirpi his most popular song 'azhagiya laila'! So watch out for Hisham's interviews in the forthcoming weeks, maybe he might get to listen to his song's tamil version if travels down south!
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.222.2) on: Thu Jun 28 07:56:46 EDT 2001
  
  Karthik, from the same film, "adi anarkali" was also lifted from "in the summertime" by Shaggy boys :-))
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.187) on: Thu Jun 28 13:12:53 EDT 2001
  
  vijay:
  you are right. But, I was one day watching a program in MTV called "Recycle". In that program they said that actually, that "Summer time" was originally composed by some jamican singer (long ago). Do you have any details?
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 192.25.158.12) on: Thu Jun 28 14:17:25 EDT 2001
  
  well, we all know where "mama ne mama" cam from?
  
  "kurna sona bla bla..rab ne banayaa.." by Nusret.F.A.Khan
  
  
• From: -Shruti (@ 212.153.190.3) on: Fri Jun 29 04:36:02 EDT 2001
  
  Anyone heard "Yeh mera dil, Pyaar kaa deewana" by Asha Bhonsle". (quite old)
  "Vaseegara " strongly reminds the Charanam of this song. Does anyone else feel the same?
  -Shruti
  
  
• From: comment (@ 65.9.136.158) on: Fri Jun 29 07:28:41 EDT 2001
  
  this song you had mentioned from 'don' i think,
  as far as vaseegara goes, the chord progression makes you think they are same. imho, they are totally different.
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 209.166.172.34) on: Fri Jun 29 11:34:36 EDT 2001
  
  Vaseegara melody line has a strong resemblence with
  Sting's Desert Rose. I would think coincidence.
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 192.25.158.12) on: Fri Jun 29 11:41:51 EDT 2001
  
  rjay and shruthi they have been discussed b4 see old responses
  
  
• From: S.R.Premkumar (@ 4.33.40.115) on: Fri Jun 29 11:56:14 EDT 2001
  
  "Megame Megame, Vaannila Theduthe" is a beautiful song sung by Vani Jayaram for Suhasini in "Palaivana Solai".
  
  Once I heard a hindustani classical music over radio, sung by a famous Pakistani singer, and the the tune was identical to "Megame Megame". If any one knows the song and the singer, kindly let me know.
  
  Premkumar
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 63.109.248.53) on: Fri Jul 6 03:01:37 EDT 2001
  
  Yuvan Shankar Raja's 'Nilavaik konjam kaathali' (from album 'Rishi') looks like a recycle of 'paLinginaal oru maaLikai'.,
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.187) on: Fri Jul 6 21:50:43 EDT 2001
  
  NagaS:
  Interesting.
  But, this kind of alledged similarity is what has made people think that ARR alos uses old songs for his new tunes. If you correctly see, the above mentioned two songs have no exact similarity, other that its flow (I don't know its musical term) and that makes you thing that the former is inspired from the latter. "Nilavai" song is not a great one and its just above crap. But, definitely its not an (heavy) inspiration of "palinginaal".
  Also, somebody told me that,in the music just before the first stanza, it looked as if its been inspired or lifted from "Mission Immposible". Do you have any idea.
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 63.109.248.53) on: Sat Jul 7 05:31:41 EDT 2001
  
  Common Friend.,
  No idea about Mission Impossible music.,
  But I won't say its a crap song., I liked the song very much - particularly the way Anu Shriram has sung the song., It was very opt to the movie situation (Sangavi :-)
  
  I do see a similarity in the pallavi tune., Let me just say, If 'Enna vilai azhage' is inspired by 'thanga pathakkaththin maele' - this song is inspired by 'paLinginaal oru maaLigai'.,
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.187) on: Sun Jul 8 08:55:29 EDT 2001
  
  May be. Even, I am so sure about MI. But, I just wanted to have others opinion too.
  
  Rishi is not the film that YSR should often sign here after. The major part of MD's success in the industry today also depends on quality film. One of ARR's strategy is that. YSR should also follow that. He is not with out offers and he should do a good choice.
  
  
• From: Karthik (@ adsl-21-129-96.mia.bellsouth.net) on: Sun Jul 8 12:10:34 EDT 2001
  
  The first couple of lines of 'Saiyyaan' from "Nayak" sound dangerously similar to "Padagottum Pattama" from Chinnavar.
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.187) on: Sun Jul 8 13:13:17 EDT 2001
  
  May be true. But the fact is saiyyaan seems to be very much a rajasthani folk song. Hans Raaj Hans is a perfect fit for the song as he is a popular desi singer. Also, the lyrics are very rustic. You tend to here such songs many times in DD national folk program with some rajasthani folk artist dancing to tunes played on a violin kind of instrument (one string and a bow). It used to be very fast and you will also enjoy the acrobatic dance of theirs.
  
  
• From: Tester (@ wwwgate36.motorola.com) on: Mon Jul 9 09:54:27 EDT 2001
  
  Common Friend - Are you trying to say something here? Went right over my head.
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ atlwebproxy1.core.hp.com) on: Tue Jul 10 00:10:51 EDT 2001
  
  Digression
  
  I often see comments like this MD should not have accepted films like xxxx. He should avoid such films etc.
  
  My question is why? What is wrong in accepting such films? If it were for an actor/actress then this claim is justifyable. But isn't it the job of MD to pick a film. After all what a MD gets is to tune a couple of love duets; viraham/love failure songs; a jolly hip movement beat oriented song; a kind of thaththuva paadal and a sentiment(amma, naadu) song. It could be a mixer of few of these songs in a movie. Very rarely there seems to be a change in requirement of songs. If at all there is going to be difference then it will mostly in the BGM part of the film. That with good story lineup, screenplay etc will need good, inovative, breathtaking etc BGM and that with M&B story line up may not need much inovative BGM. Also the concept of BGM is yet to get into the minds of our people. The so called 'educated A centre' people are also not much inclined to BGM. For them if BGM is not evidently out-of-synch then that is a great effort.
  
  Given such a situation why should not a MD sign in many films? Why should he bias towards only a great(popular) producer/director/actor/actress movie? What is going to benfit him(MD)?
  
  If the idea is that only the popular figures will demand good music then the same could be given by the MD on his own for not so popular figures' film and let the MD be more down to earth to others to boldly point out their requirement.
  
  Isn't it a sense of insecurity if the MD feels that he would do only the so-called 'popular' and/or big(rich)-budgeted films??
  
  I was not sure whether this is the right thread to write my long awaited question? If this is not the right thread then please direct me the right thread. I hope DFers would appreciate this point and would give in their opinion.
  
  End Digression
  
  
• From: Niluja+okulan Chandrasekaram. (@ on-ott-ap3-04-2.look.ca) on: Fri Jul 20 12:22:22 EDT 2001
  
  Damn you all Tamil Music Directors, I wish I kick each and every of your ass, for copying music, why the heck are you copying, can;t you do it on your own. what the hell, Is Tamil Directors meant to be Copy Katz.
  
  

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