Topic started by Jay (@ 203.124.234.166) on Mon Feb 10 02:24:13 EST 2003.
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Kamal’s New Film after Anbae Sivam.
Link here:
http://movies.sify.com/cgi-bin/sifymovies/movies/content/movies_fullstory.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0176130972.1044900625@@@@&BV_EngineID=cadcggijhgegbemgcfkmcgedng.0&content_oid=12602585&category_oid=-21346
By Moviebuzz Sify.
The Cassandra's can take a walk! Kamalhassan, the actor’s actor is all set to launch his new film under his own Raj Kamal Films. And the big news is that, he will be directing the film himself.
The film titled Chandiyar is the story of three Chenda (drum) artistes and their adventures. All the three are dark, evil and villainous characters. A Mumbai based actress will be the heroine. The shooting will start in April.
Kamalhassan, Satyaraj and Nasser play the three villainous characters. This combination is deadly and a welcome change from the usual mix. The music of Chandiyar will be by Ilayaraja. We can expect a lot of classical tunes for sure.
Hats off to Kamal for taking this bold and daring step, which we hope, will pay rich dividends at the box-office.
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- From: Jeera (@ 206.175.176.2)
on: Fri Feb 14 13:45:30 EST 2003
JAY
"Why cant these people throw useless MD's like IR. He was good once. His music sucks these days, majority hate it these days. ARR, YSR, Harris are better. If Kamal is oppurtunist nothing is wrong. When u want people utilise them. Thats all.
It may sound selfish, but that how things work in the industry. Those who say IR is good, ok
come out and see the world today. NO ONE WANTS IR. The market has changed I too enjoyed IR once. NOT NOW. TIME AND WORLD ARE CHNGING. ARR RULES."
Jay, why don't you see the other side of the coin. Do you think you know more about TFM than IR who has worked in the same industry for more than 20 years.
Since you seem to know the Industry so well. Tell me why IR has so much films in hand. IR, according to most of "NON-IR/UNBIASED" FANS is egoistic - Which means he would not go begging asking for a chance. So Why don't you guys explain the number of films in his hand or why Kamal goes to him for Music? According to you guys, IR songs is not listened by anybody or has no market, so why is it that he is still doing films?
If you or others who talk trash about IR, have an reasonable/logical explanation, then we would not be discussing at all here. Would we? Also, from this I understand it looks as though you are the one who does not know what is happening in the outside world (especially knowing the Industry so well).
- From: vardhini (@ 137.237.12.102)
on: Fri Feb 14 14:46:22 EST 2003
When Kamal was asked in an interview why he went back to IR, he has replied
"Iam selfish. I want the best for my movies. That is why I went to IR". My little nephew(5 yrs old) keeps humming the end bgm of film 'Appoorva sahodarargal'. Which MD has created this effect?
- From: vem (@ 146.152.216.2)
on: Fri Feb 14 15:25:07 EST 2003
aboorva sagotharargal - classic bgm ending right....
generally kamal has been lucky to get great bgms/songs from IR right from
Tik Tik Tik
Siggappu rojakkal
Raja paarvai
Andha oru nimidam
Punnagai mannan
nayagan
aboorva sagotharargal
mahanadhi
magalir mattum etc etc etc....
so it is not a surprise why he went to ir.... i actually donr see why these people are harping on this simple issue....
- From: evano (@ 143.182.124.3)
on: Fri Feb 14 15:47:32 EST 2003
Talking about bgm, in the movie Singaravelan, you should see Raja in action in the scene where Kushbu tells Kamal about they were getting engaged that weekend. That piece of music is mindblowing, (in the movie, Kamal's friends will be playing the instruments in that particular scene).
- From: sd (@ 64.95.115.75)
on: Fri Feb 14 16:11:44 EST 2003
This is an info I found in a tamil magazine (dont remember which one it is). It may seem to be true, given the circumstances. Here it is. The sanyasa mantra uttered by Kamal in Hey Ram was initially planned to be uttered by Kanchi Sankaracharya. Kamal got this recorded from the seer himself and planned to use his voice in the movie. Then Kamal booked LS for the music and he also completed most part of it(?). But then something dramatic happened in the Kanchi Mutt and they decided not to use the seer's voice and the mantra it in the movie and subsequently telling Kamal that he cannot use neither the voice nor the mantra in the movie. But Kamal refused doing this and said that he will not use the voice but the mantra will be used in the movie as that doesn't amount to infringement of copyrights. This was vehemently opposed by the mutt but they couldn't do anything to stop kamal using the mantra. So they were really pissed off with Kamal and the movie. Incidentally, LS and Kavitha Krishnamurthy (HFM singer) got married in the mutt and in the holy presence of the seer himself. Somthing transpired between LS and the seer that LS refused to work with Kamal for Hey Ram (on the insistence of the mutt) if he still wants to use the mantra. This caused the rupture and then everybody knows what happened.
- From: Lollu Party (@ 61.6.38.132)
on: Fri Feb 14 19:57:39 EST 2003
Answers to MUSIO
1. Mostly age group. Secondly people like Ramanan encourage IR's songs. Another thing is if you checked the most number of cars on Indian roads, what would you come up with?
2. Because Agni Natchatiram and Mouna Ragam are MR movies, Kadalora Kavithaigal is a BR movie. BGM is incidental. Nobody watches movies for BGM except for HC people.
3. IR does not give fresh tunes all the time. Even he has said that. As for his so called music post 90s, it is a joke.
4. I have no problem listenening to ARR's melodies non stop for even longer than three hours. But I can't say the same thing about IR's monotonous songs.
5. As far as melodies are concerned, MSV reigns. IR can't get near him.
IR is all used up. Majority of his songs even in the 80s are unlistenable. Out of the 4000 songs, how many can you listen repeatedly? What is the percentage? If you do a complete analysis, you will hardly get 400 real good songs. That does not speak very well of IR does it?
- From: Lol (@ 61.6.38.132)
on: Fri Feb 14 19:59:22 EST 2003
>>>>Do you think you know more about TFM than IR who has worked in the same industry for more than 20 years.
I guess I know more about the quality of an egg than the chicken that laid it! :)
- From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67)
on: Fri Feb 14 23:16:17 EST 2003
Vel:
With NOM to you, There is an other ARE YAAR here in disguise who is posting like me.
I dsid not post the one that you have quoted in your post. I still maintain what I said in the beginning. I find some thing fishy in that humming and piano sequence.
Kindly note my IP. THis has been the IP for me of almost 2 months. And it will be so for another one or 2 months or so.
See, people from your camp can stoop to any low. One of the examples is the Are Yaar duplicate.
- From: Anbe sivam (@ 206.102.161.11)
on: Sat Feb 15 16:32:05 EST 2003
Guys,
IR is not out of the Fray. May be his music is not best selling these days. They are in 4th and 5th situation according to Tamilcinema.
See the link
http://www.tamilcinema.com/cinenews.asp?fname=cass.html
1) Run
2) April Maadathil
3) Kadhal Virus
4) Ramanaa
5) Solla Marantha Kathai.
The much hyped KV is just one slot above IR's album and there are two albums before KV.
Also the time taken by IR for SMK is very less and still he could produce good album even now.
Note: I know ARE YAAR will come running defending KV by showing alternate sources(According to him the maganzines telling KV as No.1 are only providing correct information).
ARE YAAR! NOM. I even checked the details with some cassette shops when I went to Madras and they said KV is not that great moving.
- From: LO real L (@ 195.93.33.7)
on: Sat Feb 15 19:10:08 EST 2003
//I guess I know more about the quality of an egg than the chicken that laid it! :)//
The point is,the egg was not laid to be consumed by you.neither does the hen eat the egg it lays.dont reveal your stupidity by typing such rubbish.You dont even know the design of nature when an egg is laid-It is called sustennance of species.not sustenance of Lol.
Having said that,
IR definitely knows more about TFM than you.talk about idiotic postings,this takes the cake in recent times.
- From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67)
on: Sun Feb 16 01:25:33 EST 2003
AS:
I have no probs with Run at No.1 pos. I know that it is the best selling album last year. See, more of that was also because the film did very well. I still doubt with 2 and 3 position. It should be the other way round or there should be onlyh marginal difference.
MP, was one of the 4 albums that YSR released. All the other 3 were duds. Even in MP, some 2 to 3 songs were really good and hit...but KV had all songs liked by various sets of people. One of the guys from this forum made a survey and posted it. I am not claiming that it was a fool proof survey...but I also want to say that what you say is also not true to 100%.
In the same period, there is also Saathiya and BD.
Sachin might have scored just a fifty in TN local match, but he is scoring in 100s in Bombay and London...right..
(well yesterday the real Sachin should score only 32....had no one to support at the other end...Lara is luckky to have Hooper and Sarvan to standup and follow.)
- From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67)
on: Sun Feb 16 01:25:47 EST 2003
AS:
I have no probs with Run at No.1 pos. I know that it is the best selling album last year. See, more of that was also because the film did very well. I still doubt with 2 and 3 position. It should be the other way round or there should be onlyh marginal difference.
MP, was one of the 4 albums that YSR released. All the other 3 were duds. Even in MP, some 2 to 3 songs were really good and hit...but KV had all songs liked by various sets of people. One of the guys from this forum made a survey and posted it. I am not claiming that it was a fool proof survey...but I also want to say that what you say is also not true to 100%.
In the same period, there is also Saathiya and BD.
Sachin might have scored just a fifty in TN local match, but he is scoring in 100s in Bombay and London...right..
(well yesterday the real Sachin scored only 32....had no one to support at the other end...Lara is luckky to have Hooper and Sarvan to standup and follow.)
- From: Lollu Party (@ 61.6.38.132)
on: Sun Feb 16 20:08:31 EST 2003
LO real L (@ 195.93.33.7)
Your stupidity shows clearly.
When you can only understand crude stuff such as IR's music, don't insult yourself by talking "intelligent" things.
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