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Topic started by Mukund (@ sdwwwgw01.sd.nmp.nokia.com) on Sat Oct 3 20:06:55 EDT 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Everyone is pretty bored and fed up with arguing on differences of opinions regarding MDs right ? After all typically, what would we TFMers discuss suppose we meet in person ?. Song discussions right ? So here is the thread.

Idea is someone will introduce a song and we all will discuss about the song, period. Limitation is we will automatically move to another song after 5 days of discussion. ie. anyone contributing to the thread after the first set of 5 days will have to come up with a new song!. Also whoever is starting first can state the ending date of five day period.

Some help from Ravi is required for this until some time for people to really start adhering to this.

BTW why 5 days ?? Obviously to keep the thread fresh and alive !!

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Responses:

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• From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Wed Dec 9 10:15:00 EST 1998
  
  cram,
  I know anuj (94,pharmacy), mutts(92-MMS, presently in Exiter sys), mohan Athreya (92-chemical).
  
  Is the mana u r referring to A.Sivakumar (who was one of the assts in mani's DilSE)???or mahesh Anand???
  
  BTW,
  r u from DAV, Gopalapuram????
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-79-22.sprint.ca) on: Wed Dec 9 15:55:07 EST 1998
  
  Yennapa inga nadakuthu!!!
  
  
• From: Velaiyaththavan (@ 129.252.28.18) on: Wed Dec 9 16:55:39 EST 1998
  
  Hello, please thread title "i" konjam paarkkavum ! Piragu post seyyavum
  
  
• From: Shanmugam Murugappan (@ 208.236.83.16) on: Wed Dec 9 19:42:30 EST 1998
  
  Hi,
  
  How about this song from the film "Paarvadhi Ennai Paaradi" (MD : IRR, Playback : SPB, SJ)?
  
  "chinna poongkili sollum then mozhi inikkum nannaazhidhu
  vanna poongkili vandha or mayil inikkum ponnaazhidhu
  solayo... naduchchaalaiyo... thedinaen unaye
  kaalayo... andhi maalayo... yenginaen... idhayam... iniyum... saranam"
  
  The opening music and pallavi for the song is so good that will make me say, "IR is unbeatable". Unfortunately, this song was not a big hit. Maybe due to the star cast!!! (BTB, who is the hero and heroine for this movie?)
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-82-55.sprint.ca) on: Thu Dec 10 18:57:45 EST 1998
  
  Mr. Vijay
  
  I do know what the subject of the thread is. Can't figure out what happened to the song discussions.
  
  BYE
  aruvi
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-82-55.sprint.ca) on: Thu Dec 10 19:00:30 EST 1998
  
  Mr.Velaiyathavan
  
  I do know what the subject of this thread is. I was just wondering what happened to the song discussions.
  
  BYE
  aruvi
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-82-55.sprint.ca) on: Thu Dec 10 19:02:28 EST 1998
  
  Hey Vijay
  
  Sorry I got the names all mixed up.!!
  
  Mannika Veandugirean!!
  
  
• From: Velaiyaththavan (@ 129.252.23.234) on: Fri Dec 11 13:15:30 EST 1998
  
  Ayyayyo aruvi, neenga thappaga purindhu kondu vitteergal. Naan ungalaich cholla villai. I was just reiterating your statement that the persons looked into the title of the thread before they posted. Mannichchukkunga .. to address illama post pannittaen.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.28.66) on: Fri Dec 11 19:14:47 EST 1998
  
  ok, let us discuss the song proposed by cram, aagaya gangai from dharma yudham. i'll start with a short synopsis of the song:
  
  it is a beautiful duet, by MV and SJ. in those days MV used to sing a lot of rani and i feel that this song is one in which he has done an excellent job.
  the song has a madhyamaavathi base, i guess. it starts of with a pretty smooth humming 'pa papa papa....' by SJ, followed by a nice, violin-sitar? piece.
  
  effective usage of violins is a salient feature of this song. the tune of this song is apt for a happy duet. iam left mesmerized by the vioilns in the first interlude.
  
  also SJ's humming is the second interlude is also too good. the violins that come after that have a slight melancholic touch but raja soon reverts the song back to the happy mood.
  
  
• From: Observer (@ spider-wc044.proxy.aol.com) on: Fri Dec 11 20:32:20 EST 1998
  
  In my rating, 'AgAya gangai' always stood on top! I liked this song from day 1 (one of the few songs appealed to me at first time listening) when i saw the movie approx. 18 years back!(not sure) . I vaguely remember the movie situation where sridevi and Rajni clash (mOdal) in the beginning of the movie('ada pOyyA pOyya ulagam perisu, nee oru podi dappA' , a fun song!) and then later it truns into love. The picturisation was also good (if i remember correctly!) as rajni and sridevi sing this melody. As i have posted many times, SJ's humming inthe beginning reveals the feeling of a girl who is in love and wants to shed her heart completely emotionally. Very well rendered by Malasia vasudevan also. YES, the first interlude is absolutely marvellous work with violins and guitar. The second interlude features SJ's humming again between instruments. You need to be standing in a balcony with this song in the background and a nice cool breeze on an average summer day (not too hot) . You might reach heavenly experience!
  
  
• From: raja (@ ans5-pub.dttus.com) on: Sat Dec 12 10:31:46 EST 1998
  
  Is there a sax in the background when SJ starts the humming in AagayaGangai it is a great mix of instruments? I have not identified the instrument.
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Wed Dec 16 10:44:20 EST 1998
  
  rasigar nenjangaLe,
  ezhundhiringappa. vitta, thread-ai archiveskku anuppuchchiruveenga polirukku. let me play ratchagan and introduce this all-time classic for discussion:
  pon ezhil pooththadhu puthu vaanil
  veN pani thoovum nilave nil
  en manaththottathu vaNNappaRavai
  sendrathu enge sol sol sol
  
  this song must surely rank among the most poetic of duets in TFM. the lyrics are killer (panchu arunachalam, if i am not mistaken), the rendering, esp. PS is simply celestial, the tune..well i can go on, but i want u guys to proffer ur comments, opinions, feelings, etc on this timeless number. as for mew, i can only say that this song is one of the few that make me cry (aanandhakkanneerammmaaaa!!), every time i hear it.
  
  
• From: Shanmugam Murugappan (@ 208.236.83.6) on: Wed Dec 16 15:40:15 EST 1998
  
  Cram,
  
  Thanks for discussing this song. As you had said, it is one of the many best old songs that I have heard. Which film is the song from? I think Kannadasan is the lyricist for the above song and Panchu Arunachalam was only the assistant of Kannadasan at that time.
  
  
• From: balaji (@ schubert.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Thu Dec 17 02:48:24 EST 1998
  
  Shanmugam:
  the lyricist was panchu arunachalam all right.the movie is kalangarai viLakkam. MD is MSV and sung by TMS & PS.
  the song goes as follows:
  TMS: sivakaami....sivakaami....
  PS: oh oh ...
  TMS: ponnezhil pUthadhu pudhu vAnil
  veNpani thUvum nilavE nil
  en manath thOttaththu vaNNap paRavai
  senRadhu engE sol sol sol....
  
  the song involves some different usage also..for example the usage of "thennai vanam" in the first charanam.
  thennai vanaththinil unnai mugam thottu
  eNNaththaich chonnavan vAdugirEn
  eNNaththaich chonnavan vAdugirEn
  un iru kaN pattu puN patta nenjathil (note the good usage of vallinams here)
  un pattu kaip padap pAdugirEn
  (pon)
  TMS really tries to be meticulous in his pronounciation at the end of the charanam. the lines of the next charanam are also good.
  
  munnam en uLLaththil mukkani chakkarai
  aLLik koduththa pon mAdam engE
  aLLik koduththa pon mAdam engE
  kiNNam nirambida senkanich chARuNNa
  pon vaNNa sevvandhi mAlaiyengE
  then PS takes over in her wonderful voice:
  ponezhil pooththadhu thalaivaa vaa...
  ...
  
  in the next charanam PS sings
  
  thennavan manRaththil senthamizh kaN kondu
  vandhadhu ponvaNdu pAdikkondu
  vandhadhu ponvaNdu pAdikkondu
  mannavan uLLaththil sondham vandhALenRu
  senRadhu pUnthendral Adikkondu
  pon..
  this charanam sees a distinct change in mood from the earlier part of the song, and PS's voice resonates in this part, making it a wonderful experience.
  
  i guess then these lines follow:
  en udal enbadhu un udal enRa pin
  ennidam kObam koLLuvadhO (an oft used imagery)
  ennidam kObam koLLuvadhO
  onRil onRAnapin thannaith thandhAna pin
  unnidam nAnenna solluvadhO
  pon..
  this charanam is nothing much to write home about in its meaning. but the word usage is good and fits the tune well.
  
  
• From: Shanmugam Murugappan (@ 208.236.83.16) on: Thu Dec 17 20:15:32 EST 1998
  
  Balaji,
  
  Thanks for the clarification on that song.
  
  
• From: Mukund (@ sd-ppp-113.abac.net) on: Sun Dec 20 16:16:38 EST 1998
  
  Hi guys,
  
  
  Enna oru arpudhamanaa paatu - lyrics. It is so pleasing to just sing the song. Thnaks for the lyrics Balaji.
  
  Mukund
  
  
• From: selvan (@ 166.34.139.62) on: Thu Dec 24 18:55:02 EST 1998
  
  hi guys
  
  let me introduce one more old song
  
  'Kadhalin ponVeethiyil Kadhalan panpadiNal' in the film "Pookkari' sung by TMS& SJ.
  Music by MS.its also one of the best song among MSM
  
  
• From: reviver (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Mon Jan 4 11:24:42 EST 1999
  
  thambigaLa
  gnana thambigaLa
  ezhundireengappa
  
  
• From: Selvan (@ 166.34.139.62) on: Wed Jan 6 17:58:31 EST 1999
  
  I think you guys forget that song which I introduced.Ok let me write whole lyrics.the song written by kannadasan.Its really a superb duet song.
  
  S.J Kadhalin pon Veethyil Kadhalan Pan Paadinan..... Anboodu oruthi vanthaal..panoodu oruthi vanthaal
  T.M.S starts same pallavi in different way
  
  S.J Thiruparkadalil Pon Medayitu Naan Kathiruntheen unnakkagha....
  Inni pakalum illaye nal iravum illaye Naam ValinthurPoom innithagha... (Veenai )
  
  T.M.S. Irru Pon Maril Onru Enn Mallarram Then Kollavanthen ManamPolla...
  Enn Manathinalyee unn ninayvukaghaleye athai allivantheen unnakagha.... (Kathalin
  
  
  T.M.S. Vizhiyorangalil silla Neeranghalil Varum pavanghalum Kaviyahum
  
  S.J antha Kavithaghalil ulla Porul Arinthu Athai Suvaipathuthaan Kalaiyaghum (veenai
  
  T.M.S. Antha Kallaikallilum palla pudhumaiyundu athai pallaghuvathayee Peerinnbum
  
  S.J. Innba Vasalliley oru Kaavalillayee inni Kaallamellam un Sontham (kathalin
  
  In that M.K.Muthu & ' Venniraiaddai ' Nirmala acted .Now you guys can recognize this song,I hope
  
  
• From: karthi (@ lab7.theatrium.net) on: Wed Jan 6 23:32:29 EST 1999
  
  Hallo Reviver!
  
  Here I am...
  
  How about the song 'Amaidhiyaana Nadhiyinile' guys? Shall we discuss? I love the opening music in this song!
  
  

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