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vm and tms win padmashree

Topic started by barani (@ 64.230.12.105) on Sat Jan 25 16:58:28 EST 2003.
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• From: sabesan (@ 67.33.126.238) on: Wed Jan 29 06:10:07 EST 2003
  
  AY - iam 10000% positive that Radha lost to Suhasini....
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Wed Jan 29 06:32:23 EST 2003
  
  I will check it up sabs. If that is the case I am happy.
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Wed Jan 29 07:19:58 EST 2003
  
  Vengayam
  
  Thanks.Just now sang the charanam of "Mannil indha Kadhal Andri"!
  
  Shall Come back to your point with a longer post!
  
  One small doubt!Do we ever say "entha Mylapore Karangale eppadithan"? now?
  
  
• From: a v (@ 132.206.124.180) on: Wed Jan 29 09:07:30 EST 2003
  
  "The language has got better literature than any other Indian languages."
  
  And you are an arbiter of the quality of literature in other Indian languages because of ....? Do you know all Indian languages to make sweeping statements like these?
  
  Tamils contributed ZILCH to the freedom struggle. they sucked up to the British.
  
  "These morons from the cow-belt have voted for Lallu Prasad,Rabri,Devilal,Raj Narayan and many jokers in the past. "
  
  LOL, Tamils too voted for the third-raters like MGR and continue to vote for idiots like Jayalalitha and Karunanidhi. They continue to create havoc in Srilanka.
  
  "techno-president from TN"
  
  A techno-president doesnt mean a good president. BTW Tamilnadu is NOT the industrially most advanced state.
  
  
• From: a v (@ 132.206.124.180) on: Wed Jan 29 09:09:17 EST 2003
  
  "Even if they call some CMusicans then it will be only MS (Those days), Balamurali or Jesudas (rarely). As if we don't have any other singers here. "
  
  Incorrect observation!
  
  
• From: Saketh@Atlanta (@ 130.207.32.174) on: Wed Jan 29 09:13:41 EST 2003
  
  Vallamai thaarayo indha maanilam payanura vaazhvadharke...
  
  All the achievements were done not with the intention of proving that Tamils were better, they were done in a effort to be the best they can be. When it suits us, we group ourselves either into Tamils or southies or computer engineers or Iyengars or Madrasis or Indians or Asians and whine about all the injustice in the world. Let us try to do our jobs better and not worry about whether every deserving Tamil has got a National award or not.
  
  Solladi siva shakthi, nilachumaiena vaazhdhidal puriguvaiyo...
  
  
• From: Sam (@ 208.134.115.240) on: Wed Jan 29 10:43:58 EST 2003
  
  Tamilian peepil shuould first learn to get a haircut once every month and take a shower once every day. when was the last time ARR or abdul kalam had a haircut or took a shower? 1985? LOL!
  
  
• From: Sam (@ 208.134.115.240) on: Wed Jan 29 11:11:52 EST 2003
  
  tms and ps may be good for you but lataji is the singing voice of India. Every one in the world of any age knows lataji.
  Lata Mangeshkar is true BHARAT RATNA.
  Even my parents have not heard about tms and ps. tms and ps are known to people only in tamil nadu. They have not achieved even 1/1000 th of what Lataji or Rafi has achieved.
  So stop complaining. if u r good awards will come to you.
  
  
• From: music lover (@ 207.86.27.163) on: Wed Jan 29 12:17:01 EST 2003
  
  vengayam, well said...
  
  
• From: Sivam (@ 161.44.179.121) on: Wed Jan 29 15:36:44 EST 2003
  
  Sam padmashree award is for talent recognition, not for how far and wide a person is known? Yes Lataji is an excellent singer, and maybe no one can come upto her excellence. But that doesnot mean you don't give award to other talented people.
  
  "Even my parents have not heard about tms and ps. tms and ps are known to people only in tamil nadu"
  
  I don't know where u'r parents are from, but naturally vm and tms will only be known to tamil as their work evolves around tamil language.
  
  Lataji and Rafiji were successful because the language was known to 70 % of India, if tamil was known to 70 % of India, then probably vm and tms will have been as successful as them.
  
  So stop bragging dude, you sound pathetic. And before talking about the president of our own country think twice, Learn to give respect to the great man, don't bring him between your dumb and pathetic discussion.
  
  
• From: s0 (@ 163.181.250.2) on: Wed Jan 29 16:23:57 EST 2003
  
  "Tamils contributed ZILCH to the freedom struggle. they sucked up to the British."
  
  AV - now you are going too far in the pretext of rebutting OISG's (a bit exaggerated) comments.
  
  There have been so many people who fought against the British - so many (Kattabomman, Marudhu Brothers et al.) before the 1847 war itself. There have been many others in the 20th century - Bharathiar, VOC, Thiruppur Kumaran.. I don't blame you. You cannot find all this in the history books that national councils like NCERT provide. I learnt all this from my Tamil lessons in school & watching Tamil cinema. In fact, the gross neglect of Tamil history & culture in our textbooks is another case in point.
  
  
• From: s0 (@ 163.181.250.2) on: Wed Jan 29 16:31:41 EST 2003
  
  It is really pathetic when we have to prove our patriotism to other Indians.
  AV, I know you are a big fan of MS Subbulakshmi. Do you atleast know her contributions to the freedom struggle, even though it may seem passive compared to the Thiruppur Kumaran-like (or should I say Bhagat Singh-like) sacrifices that other people(Tamilians, nay, Indians who speak Tamil) made?
  
  
• From: Biju (@ 136.181.195.25) on: Wed Jan 29 17:21:14 EST 2003
  
  when was the last time Lataji or Ashaji had a haircut or took a shower? 1984? LOL!LOL!
  
  
• From: naaaaaaaaaaaaan sense (@ 65.176.168.69) on: Wed Jan 29 17:26:22 EST 2003
  
  Frankly, those delhi wallahs have no originality, their hindi is from persia, hindustani music descendant from carnatic, their ram, krishna of dravidian heritiage that prevailed whole of india for millions of years, then these delhi fellows all wanderers who settled eventually near the ganges from various parts of India does not have the high sense of art, the cold weather has made those wanderers a bit dull in the head and so their level of appreciation is thoroughly banal. can't blame them.
  
  this padma shree, bushan, gulshan all hardly makes any sense. agaion, it is who you know close to the seat of power than what you did. look at rahman! good example
  
  
• From: Sam (@ 208.134.115.240) on: Wed Jan 29 17:45:23 EST 2003
  
  AV is correct. Tamilian peepil only want their own country. they did not contribute to freedom struggle at all. biju try something original. why r u copying me. na..an sense says northies copy the south. look at biju LOL!
  
  
• From: Sivam (@ 161.44.179.121) on: Wed Jan 29 17:50:04 EST 2003
  
  Guys remember our aim, is not to prove that people from North are inferior to us. But to prove to them, that we are also as good as them.
  
  We don't want to get into petty, cheap comments that some of them post [ such people are a disgrace to the entire concept of India].
  
  We are Indians and every state is good in their own way, no one is superior or inferior, we are all equal.
  
  
• From: Lollu Party (@ 61.6.38.132) on: Wed Jan 29 19:54:18 EST 2003
  
  Tamils are light-miles ahead of the northeners in all aspects. Let us not even begin comparing ourselves with apes closest current relatives.
  
  Northeners dunk litres of milk and ghee, don't take bath and end up stinking the atmosphere.
  
  If India has any self-respect, it is because of the Southeners.
  
  If India is condemned, it is because of the northerners (naathampudichavanunga).
  
  
• From: s0 (@ 163.181.250.2) on: Wed Jan 29 20:27:54 EST 2003
  
  this is sounding more & more like forumhub (which, incidentally, has been forbidden by my proxy categorising the site's content as hate speech!!) at this rate, newtfmpage will get that honourable status pretty soon.
  
  
• From: Speaker (@ 203.126.142.232) on: Wed Jan 29 20:32:17 EST 2003
  
  Why no mention of Bharati wrt to Freedom struggle. I am not sure whether Tagore contributed in Social consciousness area as Barathi. Barathi wasn't recognised a bit in North. The basic issue Tamils like to know more of other states, cultures, music etc. How many in north knows our artists, culture. Like OISG said, comedy in Hindi movies/serials is a south indian (Tamil) doing funny things as if they are the icons of intelligence.Sivaji didn't get any award while Rajkapoor does. This itself explains.
  
  
• From: Lollu Party (@ 61.6.38.132) on: Wed Jan 29 20:55:15 EST 2003
  
  Sorry for that s0
  Just that kuniya kuniya kottittu irukkaan intha baduvaa rascal. These kind of fellows need to put in their place. With all the dirty baggages, they dare to talk!
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 68.155.250.194) on: Wed Jan 29 22:05:53 EST 2003
  
  Speaker - cool down..... "azhukku" rendu paakathillum irukku..... even today for us "SARDAR" talks like an idiot only in films..... did u know many actors in HINDI during SIVAJI's time - DID recognize him..... don't expect that from the new generation now (that includes' stars from our side too)...... basically, we need a HELL of a "push" to get all these SILLY awards...... of course, they (northies) do think that "THEY" are one step above..... lets prove they r WRONG.... that's the thing that we can do, right ? and this "up", "down" thing is there in each and every thing..... (man, am i getting toooooo old!!!!!!!!!!!)
  
  
  
  
• From: AV (@ 132.216.68.125) on: Wed Jan 29 23:25:12 EST 2003
  
  Making fun of South Indians in Hindi films is crass and unfair. For that reason I hate the song "ek chatur naar" and the film Padosan and even Mehmood in general (I have heard he is a Kannadiga Muslim???), because the film shows South Indians in poor light. But look at this - in the "Tribute to RDB" concert, SPB *HIMSELF* sang the song "ek chatur naar". If North Indians are to be reprimanded for making fun of South Indians, SPB
  must be severely punished and questioned for making fun of his own people. He should not be spared at all in any manner.
  
  And don't all Indians (including South Indians, including Tamils) make fun of the Sikhs? Aren't we all used to those utterly idiotic Sardarji jokes? How about that? And even the Marwaris, i.e. the Seths, have been shown in poor light in South Indian films, I am told (not sure about this last part though).
  
  
• From: av (@ 132.216.68.125) on: Wed Jan 29 23:26:46 EST 2003
  
  --Sivaji didn't get any award--
  
  Umm, he got a very well-deserved dadasahib phalke award.
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 210.214.5.224) on: Wed Jan 29 23:27:33 EST 2003
  
  a v
  Your statement likening JJ/Mu.Ka to Lallu cannot be accepted at face value. They may be good examples of 'power corrupts'. But they had pretty solid credentials before coming to power. JJ was State topper in PUC or something like that. Imagine a fatherless girl going that far. Mu.Ka is only too well-known for his contribution to litt. Wanna bet on the Laalus having seen the inside of a school?
  
  Besides you would have lived enough outside South to realise the inferior education, mindset, civility of Northies. I neednt elaborate more on that.
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Thu Jan 30 00:19:15 EST 2003
  
  So we are talking about history.....
  
  For the NI ..theirs start from 1526.Though they had great history prior (like Guptas,Maurayas) to that they are happy to start from 1526 for thats what their H'ble politicians know who are rarely educated.I have stated this even before ...Lallu has his Maatu Thozhuvam where the Pataliputra university once stood!
  
  We are not here to pit Raja Raja cholas greatness with that of Akbar.But the basic question is awareness and the willingness to know about the roots and respect others.
  
  Terribly absent in most of the NIs.
  
  The examples i quoted from India today are just tip of the ice berg.Get a chance to read the saloon mags ,Stardust and Film fare?Its worse.They are ignorant about the difference between Tamil,Telugu and Malayalam.We all know how to call people who know-not but not know that they know-not....FOOLS!
  
  Abdul Kalam/AR Rehman did not have his hair cut......see the level....Precisely thats the difference.SI see what is inside the untrimmed hair and NI looks at ......!
  
  Prabhu,It is unfair on your part to expect them to know about our history and culture..for they even do not know that of theirs!
  
  TN actually needs one more anti-hindi revolution.
  
  
  

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