Raga of song please
Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.
The popular notation used on this page. The twelve notes of an octave are the following.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 S R1 R2 R3 G3 M1 M2 P D1 D2 D3 N3 G1 G2 N1 N2
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- From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.208)
on: Tue Apr 23 06:19:33 EDT 2002
IR_Fan One more SimmendraMadhyamam(may be keeravani not sure)...Kadhai pola thoNum ithu kathaiyum illai in "Veerathalattu"....I only hope u are noting down all our new findings and updating ur database:-)
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Tue Apr 23 06:45:20 EDT 2002
Adu Keeravani Ram.It is already listed in the site.
- From: satsona (@ 203.199.192.162)
on: Tue Apr 23 07:06:01 EDT 2002
hi everyone...
a real confusion yest. i was trying to take notes of Ho Jaaye song from tenali. can anyone pls tell the predominant raaga(i know ARR songs wont have 1 particular raaga;-))
More than the raaga, i want to know how the notes go about.
For eg. should the starting notes for the Pallavi shd be Sa Sa Pa.....Ma Ma Dha...(this is for Sindhu Bhairavi scale)??
OR
Ga Ga Ni....Dha Dha Saa....(Sankarabharam scale)??
i hope i am clear.
can anyone clarify?It may sound silly, but i am really confused with this song:-)
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Tue Apr 23 07:36:51 EDT 2002
Satsona,
The second option Sat. IMHO.
And i guess Sundari from Kannathil Muthamittal is Vakulabharanam.
- From: Sindhuja (@ 203.200.5.86)
on: Tue Apr 23 08:15:58 EDT 2002
IR_fan,these were the swaras I figured out in Sundari-Pa Ga2 Ri2 Sa,Ri2 Ga2 Ma2 Pa Da2 Pa Ma2 Pa Ga2 Ri2 Sa.
2nd line:Da2...Da2 Da2 Ni2 Da2 Ni2 Da2 Ni2 Da2 Sa Ni2 Da2...;Da2... Da2 Da2 Ni2 Da2 Ni2 Da2 Ni2 Da2 Ri2 Sa Ni2 Da2 Pa Ma2 Pa Da....
If u still think it's not Hemavati,again I guess it's some shrutibhedam problem again!(Not sure if Hemavati and Vakulabharanam r shrutibhedams,shud try it out on the keyboard)
IR_fan,y don't u try playing this song acc. to the swaras I've given and lemme know u'r opinion?
- From: Sindhuja (@ 203.200.5.86)
on: Tue Apr 23 08:19:59 EDT 2002
Satsona,that's shrutibhedam-in 1 shruthi,Sindhubhairavi,in another,Shankarabharanam-I'm not convinced with the criterion to decide the raaga in such cases.IR or MS's response to this wud b useful here.
- From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.230)
on: Tue Apr 23 08:25:42 EDT 2002
Yeah!Ri of hemavati taken as Sa yields Vakulabharanam!So what wud the raaga of Sundari be?IR,MS(or anyone else?)we need u'r inputs!
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Tue Apr 23 08:37:56 EDT 2002
Sundari, Siriya Rettai Vaal Sundari - (Ga3 Ri1 Sa Ni2. Sa Ri1 Ga3 Ma1 Pa Ma1 Ga3. Ri1 Sa Ni2).
Is this right?
- From: satsona (@ 203.199.192.162)
on: Tue Apr 23 08:39:34 EDT 2002
tnx IR_fan (i chose the 1st option yest.Have to change fully to the 2nd one:) and Sindhuja
i havent had much doubts Gruhabhedham with other raagas like Hindolam and SD, or even this combo Sindhu Bhairavi & Shankarabharanam for other songs, but i am really breaking my head over this particular song:-)
Kudos to ARR for this confusion;-)
- From: IR_Fan (@ )
on: Tue Apr 23 08:53:41 EDT 2002
Sat,
:-)I will confirm tomm after i try it with my KeyBoard.
- From: IR (@ 38.220.167.240)
on: Tue Apr 23 09:58:55 EDT 2002
Sindhuja - I feel it is KeeravANi based. (dha1 pa Ma1) JMO! :-)
- From: Sindhuja (@ 203.200.1.155)
on: Tue Apr 23 11:34:59 EDT 2002
Hemavati,Vagulaabharanam and Keeravani r all shrutibhedams of each other.If u've noticed,the 3rd swaram in IR_fan's post is Sa,and in mine it is Ri.That's what I've said above-the Ri of Hemavati taken as Sa gives VakulAbharanam.Also,the Pa of Hemavati taken as Sa gives Keeravaani.The question now is,which was the "authentic" or "intended" raaga of the MD?
- From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170)
on: Tue Apr 23 13:34:51 EDT 2002
can somebody tell the raga of song 'muthu kulikka vaareegala' (http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/WW000014). Listen to the rhythm section. I would call it a "Festival of rhythm-section". Amazing song.
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.208)
on: Tue Apr 23 16:17:56 EDT 2002
IR,
En Kelvikkenna bathil?:-)
- From: SIndhuja (@ 203.197.176.220)
on: Tue Apr 23 21:39:31 EDT 2002
haris,the link doesn't work.Ram,enna kelvi?
- From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.220)
on: Tue Apr 23 21:41:02 EDT 2002
Ram,oops!I didn't see that was for IR.
- From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170)
on: Tue Apr 23 22:19:15 EDT 2002
muthu kulikka vaareeyala?
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/WW000014
- From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.17)
on: Wed Apr 24 01:03:25 EDT 2002
What raaga is Tilang +Ri2?
haris,sounds predominantly like HarikAmbodhi,though has anya swaras like Da1 ,thus sounding like ChArukesi,which is the D1 equivalent of HarikAmbodhi
- From: satsona (@ 203.199.192.162)
on: Wed Apr 24 02:02:08 EDT 2002
IR & others
" raagas of foll. songs pls :
1 Adhikaalai nerame (Raadhika and Pratap film)
2 O Anni(title song of serial Anni)-sorry this is not TFM, it is TSM:-) "
sorry for the trouble, but i keep disturbing till my queries are answered;-)
and i have observed 1 of the most complex chord sequence and set of chords in the Ho Jaaye song.
not yet fully convinced about the Sruthibedham in the song.
IR & others ?
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.79.29)
on: Wed Apr 24 02:09:40 EDT 2002
IR_fan,
Did u try "Aala asathum malliye"...is that Jog?
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Wed Apr 24 03:15:29 EDT 2002
I can see Madhyamavathi in that song with LOAS.
- From: ram (@ 134.121.73.124)
on: Wed Apr 24 03:52:30 EDT 2002
IR_fan,
could you send me the excel file of the raga-database?
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Wed Apr 24 04:17:26 EDT 2002
sure.
- From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.124)
on: Wed Apr 24 04:25:11 EDT 2002
Thanx:-)
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126)
on: Thu Apr 25 01:29:16 EDT 2002
is there any connection (raaga / sandham wise) between unnidam mayanguguiraen uLLaththaal nerungugiraen and vannam konda vennilavae vaanam vittu vaarayo.
I especially feel the resemblance in charanam vanji un vaarthayellam sangeedham pakkatthil neeyum illai, though i feel the progession (am i using the right term at correct place?) is bit different.
- From: satsona (@ 203.199.192.162)
on: Thu Apr 25 04:29:40 EDT 2002
IR_fan,
could you send me the excel file of the raga-database?:)
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Thu Apr 25 05:12:34 EDT 2002
Sure sat.
- From: satsona (@ 203.199.192.162)
on: Thu Apr 25 08:00:24 EDT 2002
tnx:)
- From: fellow south africans (@ 196.2.40.7)
on: Thu Apr 25 14:16:02 EDT 2002
we are looking for the raagam of the song from INDIRA aachum achum illa.. could anyone please help us
fellow south africans
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.208)
on: Thu Apr 25 15:02:34 EDT 2002
Kupps,
I think both those songs are set tro Raga Peelu,I'm sure abt the second one.....experts will confirm abt the first:-)
- From: ram (@ 134.121.79.29)
on: Fri Apr 26 01:15:50 EDT 2002
Kaanamal ponavargal patriya arivippu,
IR,IR_Fan,MS,Sindhuja endru peyar konda sila arivujeevigalai irandu naatkalaaga kaanavillai....kaanamal pona andru antha sattai entha pant aninthu irunthaargal endru seriyaaga theriyavillai....ivargalai patri thagaval arinthaal ithe threadil post seiyavum
- From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Fri Apr 26 03:04:58 EDT 2002
:-) Ram
- From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.186.12)
on: Fri Apr 26 03:48:24 EDT 2002
Ram,hi!:-)
A take on acham acham illai-1st-Shankarabharanam base(with N2?)2nd-Saraswati,followed by HameerKalyani back to SB(just 1 line though),then PanthuvarALi.
???
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126)
on: Fri Apr 26 06:26:52 EDT 2002
hello hello hello hello
naan paesaradhu kaetkudha???
aen kaeLvikkenna badhil
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.25.208)
on: Fri Apr 26 06:32:56 EDT 2002
Kupps,
naan bathil spnna thappathaan irukkumnu avlo nambikkaiya ungalukku?(jus kidding)
- From: dubaax_dingu (@ 206.65.94.1)
on: Fri Apr 26 14:48:07 EDT 2002
ayya deivangale: ennamaa paatukku raagam kandupidichchu kalakareenga...pugaiyaa irukku baa ungalellaam paaththaa..hats of IR_fan, Ram, Sindhuja nad others :-)
btb, engengE engengE from nErukku nEr 'sarasAngi' yaa 'chArukEsi' yaa..N2 vaa N3 yaa nnnu 10son baa...
- From: dubaax_dingu (@ 206.65.94.1)
on: Fri Apr 26 14:53:30 EDT 2002
konjam palla koosinaa poruthukkoanga ;-) nethikku "enna paadach chollaatha" from "aan paavam" thoda saranaththa thodi la vaasichaen...thappu nnu thonrathu..sankrabharanaththa sruhti shift uttu vaasichuttaenoa..experts sollungappaaa ???
- From: jkmagsj (@ 196.2.40.7)
on: Fri Apr 26 16:36:02 EDT 2002
hi we r looking for the musical notes for teh song ACCHAMILLAI from the movie indira if anyone could please email it to us at jkmagsj@yahoo.com thasnx its urgent
south africa
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Fri Apr 26 19:22:49 EDT 2002
ayya dubaax_dingu,
enga ellaraiyu vida mukkiyamana aalu intha threadla IR thaan avangala vittutu(atleast others on par ennai antha listla serthathuthaan aniyayam)....newaya I think that nerukku ner Song is Charukesi IMHO.....
- From: IR_Fan (@ 203.199.245.151)
on: Sat Apr 27 00:14:06 EDT 2002
dubaax_dingu,
Engenge Engenge = Sarasangi & Charukesi, rendume irukku andha paatula.
[Btw, welcome to ROS Thread, dubaax :-)]
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