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The father of Tamil film light music and Master of Maestros M.S.Viswanathan.

Topic started by NChari (@ 203.199.236.198) on Tue Jan 23 15:05:26 EST 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Why is he still quiet and making humble notes about the new MDs and their new songs?

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• From: vvn (@ 64.208.81.180) on: Thu Jan 25 16:40:21 EST 2001
  
  allR=,
  Sombu... good Example: "friends" ranking #1 here,
  Sombu...another good example pg statement.
  
  realA soona msv fans pavam...they dont talk anything here, ..This is first time they comeup with something, one person in some other thread has blamed arr fans..for this ...very creative indeed.:)
  
  As far as I am concerned MSV songs are great, matches the song situation perfectly. Many musicians are adapting his way even today.
  I tell this after some studying his work for the past few months and taking with few directors and producers.
  
  Secondly before anyone pulls a "slower one" on me, I dont expect IR fanatics to belive my or come to a conslusion that MSV was great.
  Many in the cyber world know, newtfmpage IR fanatics simply dont know music other than IR,
  It is not worth discussing music with them.
  I learnt my lesson today.
  
  
• From: VV (@ 209.187.151.146) on: Thu Jan 25 16:50:06 EST 2001
  
  vvn:
  
  When you come to any discussion, you should throw some valid points. Even before that, you can't just say the other side doen't listen and leave. That's not fair to the other side, in this case IR fans.
  
  We don't doubt MSV's talents but IR has done more than MSV in certain areas.
  
  As far as I am concerned MSV songs are great, matches the song situation perfectly. Many musicians are adapting his way even today.
  I tell this after some studying his work for the past few months and taking with few directors and producers.
  
  Secondly before anyone pulls a "slower one" on me, I dont expect IR fanatics to belive my or come to a conslusion that MSV was great.
  
  I just want to switch the names from MSV to IR in your message. Some don't apply to me, some do.
  
  
• From: FYI (@ 209.187.151.146) on: Thu Jan 25 16:54:14 EST 2001
  
  vvn:
  
  It is not worth discussing music with them.
  
  Take a look at couple of previous pages of this thread, you will know no one is discussing about music including MSV fans.
  
  
• From: vvn (@ 64.208.81.180) on: Thu Jan 25 17:22:40 EST 2001
  
  The topic says Inspite of msv being a top notch composer in tfm..why is he so humble...but..
  The topic was diverted by few "greats" here, who came to a pathetic conclusion that msv getting some 10k of fame and name will sink their favorite composer. For a change this time it is MSV, usually it is ARR or some other musician.
  
  Also if you see the above 2 postings were clipped from my earlier postings, I will add what they have missed out from my posting,
  
  
  Many in the cyber world know, newtfmpage IR fanatics simply dont know music other than IR,
  It is not worth discussing music with them.
  
  
  
• From: e.hari (@ 199.67.140.20) on: Thu Jan 25 17:51:25 EST 2001
  
  MSV music in late 70's were good, only that IR music was fresh and different and people opted for new sounds and MSV lost his share, the same reason IR lost to ARR.
  IMO, at least MSV came up with ninathale innikum ( the best soundtrack in terms of no of single hits), and IR never gave any thing substanial after ARR arrival. Infact in terms of hits upto late 70's there is nothing to seperate IR from MSV and IR became no one composer only from the 80's, in contrast, ARR became top commercial composer with in one year.
  There are lot of great melodious songs in 75-80 period from MSV.
  Some of the songs, I really enjoyed are ( I m not quoting songs from his popular movies, just the rare ones).
  1. Kadhalin pon veniyl
  2. Thiru murugan arugile
  3. Kanden kalyana pen ponra megam
  4. Gowri manogaria kandan
  5. Vanakam bala murai sonnen
  6. Kannanin sannathiyil, enthan Kanmani punnagaiyil
  7. Veenai pesum, athai meetum viralgali kandu
  
  Personally, I started listening some of MSV songs in 70s, which I ignored earlier preferring IR songs instead, and what a enjoyment it turned out to be.
  MSV is a really a great melody maker.
  
  e.hari
  
  
• From: Venki (@ 12.35.64.19) on: Thu Jan 25 17:53:29 EST 2001
  
  e.hari
  Understand! IR has not yet lost! He is still the best.
  
  Venki
  
  
• From: Qs (@ 209.187.151.146) on: Thu Jan 25 17:55:25 EST 2001
  
  vvn:
  
  I don't want to argue, this will never end. But this is my last posting: MSV and ARR fans can't digest IR fans' opinions. Because they knew IR is better than MSV and ARR in many areas.
  
  I won't agree with whatever you say. Here in this forum lot of people including yourself talking about IR's personality, ie. his ego etc. Other MDs are always humble. Just keep it that way. I do have some questions about MSV's personality. Could you answer them for me? I don't want them to write here and degrade him like you guys do for IR. I want to mail them. If you don't mind, send me your id.
  
  
• From: M (@ 144.49.154.163) on: Thu Jan 25 17:57:52 EST 2001
  
  even MSV had great songs in 80s :)
  1. kaNNiyavaL naanukiraaL kaadhalan..sangu pushpangaL
  2. ippadiyum/raasaathi ennai thEdi...raasaathi kalyaaNam
  3. ninnaiyE radhi/pookaLE vaNNa kavithai/ulakamellam kaadhal... kaNNe kaniyamuthE.
  4. Varam
  5. naalu pErukku Nandri
  6. sirai
  the list grows.
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.167.213) on: Thu Jan 25 20:23:53 EST 2001
  
  M:
  
  Enna thalaiva, kelvipadatha paatellam solli athellam supernu sonna eppadi.
  
  
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.167.213) on: Thu Jan 25 20:30:15 EST 2001
  
  MSV rasigargale:
  
  Avar niraya sirantha paatukkal tanthullar. I would appreciate if somebody can give few movies of MSV, just running for his songs. Don't quote Sivaji ganesan, MGR movies. I can give you atleast 100 IR movies, which were box office hits just for the songs. Started giving every song of MSV to be great. Don't be so desperate!
  
  
• From: MSV (@ 157.182.40.145) on: Thu Jan 25 21:12:04 EST 2001
  
  M:
  i am ready to give IR's Best songs...are u ready?!
  enna HCIRF's readya?! Help pannugappa
  
  
• From: MSV (@ 157.182.40.145) on: Thu Jan 25 21:13:41 EST 2001
  
  GnYooooo.
  EEEEEEEE..
  Thai Nilam Thantha Varam Thaavaram..
  Thazhaika Thazhaika Makivargal yavarum..
  Hey ..thannnannnannnna....
  
  
• From: MSV (@ 157.182.40.145) on: Thu Jan 25 21:14:03 EST 2001
  
  GnYooooo.
  EEEEEEEE..
  Thai Nilam Thantha Varam Thaavaram..
  Thazhaika Thazhaika Makizhvargal yavarum..
  Hey ..thannnannnannnna....
  
  
• From: Neel (@ 206.83.87.52) on: Fri Jan 26 00:39:53 EST 2001
  
  MSV is the only MD who changed with time. His style of music changed from the semiclassical 50s to light 60s to melodious and rocking seventies and still kept changing with time in the 80s. No other MD is as versatile as MSV.
  
  
• From: param (@ 203.199.236.37) on: Fri Jan 26 02:37:06 EST 2001
  
  MSV the legend did "Saadhanaigal" in silence. He wanted his songs to speak for him. They still speak for him in day to day life, if you are to speak with your conscience ( an your nuts in situ).
  
  His novel film song experiments as proven:
  You want a symphony - Pudhiya paravai songs, Engey Nimmathi BGM.
  You want a folk-western fusion - Pattikada Pattanama movie, Kettukodi Urumi melam song.
  You want a Hidustani-western fusion - Naan Avanillai movie, GokulaPaala Komagal radha.
  You want a Carnatic-western fusion - TMSs' song I will sing for you, in a sivaji film
  You want a Rhythmic ensemble fusion - listen to recordings of his live concerts where he completes with an ensemble or listen to HMV LP record which had selected musical scores exclusively orchestrated.
  
  The above is only a sample for his novel expressions. There are more great views to share, experience and rejoice.
  
  MSV fans keep cool and calm with unwanted statements from others. Let us show what culture we developed from listening to our SuperMusicStar MSV as his fans.
  
  Let us not step into drain pipe areas and contaminate ourselves, while trying to clean it. Mottai/uncombed-unshaven personality is a liking for some, while neatly oiled&combed hair style with a clean shaven face and a forehead lit with viboothi kungumam is liking for others! Music is divine beauty and each on have their own definitions for beauty. It comes to discussion forum because it is placed in public.
  
  We shall use this forum only to share our music experiences with the ample musical wealth MSV has given us to enjoy! Remeber fans of MSV -
  M - Magnanimity, S - Sincerity, V - Versatility. We belong to the cadre of such a genius. Dont lose your head on any account.
  
  
• From: dignity (@ 203.199.236.37) on: Fri Jan 26 03:03:04 EST 2001
  
  MSV was feeding the audience with conventional nutritious food and IRs entry with Annakili "Machana Pathingala" (which infact is mediocre now and then too) was a hit because it came like a simple change to taste fast food or Rasam saadam-appalam or Thayirsaadam-urugai as a contrast to the coventional forced Home saapadu.
  
  If you refer old responses in the forum and comment AFTER LISTENING to hits in the 80s (Attn. Flifo) , it still enriches with a standard and is nutritive as Home sapaadu. No doubt, he has given a tough stand to other MDs at that time too. There is no fall for this great Music composer, for he is an "Original composer" of his own style and touches, than a mere Cine Music director. He did, he does, he continues and he will continue - as an Original trend setter.
  I dont want to comment on fast food and Rasam-Thayir sadam group, for, it is unable to stand the test of time.
  
  As somebody (?MSV (!)) made fun of him in this forum , it is true that MSV is=
  Thaai nilam thantha varam, isai varam
  Athai ketka ketka magizhvaargal yavarum.
  You mention the verse, the melody sings in you!
  TRUTH IS TRUTH ALWAYS!
  
  
• From: M (@ 144.49.154.163) on: Fri Jan 26 08:56:23 EST 2001
  
  Flifo, indha thread kum IR kum enna sambandham? It's supposed to be MSV thread? :)))
  I can list 100 of movies just flopped because of IR movies :))) and I can list many IR movies which even you have no idea of it :)
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 64.244.40.35) on: Fri Jan 26 08:58:28 EST 2001
  
  Mr Flipflop neenga keLvipadalenna andha pattellam
  super-a illame poidumaa?
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 64.244.40.35) on: Fri Jan 26 09:23:01 EST 2001
  
  Some more to the list:
  
  Ponnagaram:
  vazhugindra makkaLukku vazhndhavargaL paadamadi(JC)
  muthu radhamo moga kuzhalo mullai charamo piLLai thamizho(JC,VJ)
  
  yudha kandam:
  kangaL sonnadhu por thodukka(VJ,Rajkumar bharathi)
  
  BhrammacharigaL:
  chandhiranai partha suriyanai therigiradhu
  
  anbuLLa athaan:
  yaaro oruthi ezhudhugiraaL inge ivanum mayangugiraan
  
  megathirkkum thaagamundhu:
  maragatha megam sindhum mazhai varum neramidhe(SPB,PS)
  
  parikshaikku neramaachu:
  oru osaiyindri mounaamaga(JC)
  malligai mohanam minndium poocharam(VJ,PS)
  
  thambadhyam oru sangeedham:
  indha vanjimagaL oru oodhappo(SPB)
  thaiyumaanavan thandhaiaanavan anbu sevagan arumai naayagan(JC)
  
  
  
• From: ComeOn (@ 209.187.151.146) on: Fri Jan 26 09:37:54 EST 2001
  
  Neel:
  
  MSV is the only MD who changed with time. His style of music changed from the semiclassical 50s to light 60s to melodious and rocking seventies and still
  kept changing with time in the 80s. No other MD is as versatile as MSV.
  
  Please stop this non-sense. Each one is changing and brining something new, may be not semiclassic to light music. IR brought folk music and ARR brought new sounds and POP music. So you're saying IR hasn't changed his style at all from 76-00. Please listen to his albums, you will notice the versatality IR has given. You don't have to agree with me. If you are not able to see it, stick with your opinion.
  
  

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