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Vairamuthu`s frustration with ARR>>>

Topic started by suren (@ abdbb0ad.ipt.aol.com) on Fri Mar 17 07:22:07 EST 2000.
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I read an article on Kandukonden Kandukonden`s audio cassette release function in todays online Hindu in "talk of the town" section.VM sems to be very much frustrated with ARR especially the way in which his lyrics are treated by ARR of late!. Is it his response to the comment about the so called `lyrics` in Alaipayudhe?. Infact VM seems to have quoted the songs of "kandukonden Kandukonden" as one those examples. Guys, any comments.

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• From: Athi (@ wwwgate2.motorola.com) on: Tue May 16 14:16:15 EDT 2000
  
  MS,
  
  In some sense, it looks like a comparison.
  But my point was the whiz kid getting
  motivated by IR to the extent of following
  whatever he does. I remember previously he
  used to say that he will never get inspired
  by IR and just was wondering how (un) true
  that is.
  
  But still the double standards when it comes
  to criticizing ARR and IR is still a big
  problem that many threads in this forum face.
  People criticize IR in many ways in the name of
  knowing music but pounce on anyone who criticizes
  ARR and they seem to have many fans who use
  abusive language against ARR criticizers in
  all possible ways. This is not a healthy trend.
  
  Also we discuss on measures to prevent Deva
  from copying but nobody was willing to include
  ARR in that eventhough ARR also copies in
  more sophisticated ways and has the temerity to
  make statements like he never copied. Is it
  not a double standard again in favour of ARR?
  More than copying, lying is worse and ARR seems
  to be doing it quite often nowadays about copying.
  
  Iam sure I will be derided again but
  people can't hide certain facts by using
  abusive language. If they do that, they are
  going to see greater criticism of ARR in all
  the threads.
  
  Athi
  
  
• From: VS (@ wwwgate1.motorola.com) on: Tue May 16 14:30:22 EDT 2000
  
  Read from some site that these days (after the fiasco with ARR at the KKKK audio release function), VM is a "sadder but wiser" (to quote the article) man, and has vowed not to speak in such public functions anymore. Apparently, he declined when invited to speak at the audio cassette release function of some other film.
  
  A case of twice bitten... !
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9) on: Tue May 16 16:06:54 EDT 2000
  
  Athi:
  
  So there was a comparison (in whatever sense you may put it through) which you claimed you had not made. So you do realize that you have not played fair. Fine.
  
  Let us come to "double standards" in DF. for your reference I have listed the threads where ARR has been EXPLICITLY and vehemently bashed.
  
  (1) http://newtfmpage.com/forum/3525.15.14.51.html
  
  (2) http://newtfmpage.com/forum/15781.12.38.58.html
  
  (3) http://newtfmpage.com/forum/27911.12:54:08.html (Rahman bashers)
  
  (4) http://newtfmpage.com/forum/17855.21.27.56.html
  
  These are just samples of threads which exlusively bash ARR. There are other threads where in you can find a lot of anti-ARR content (if that is what you are looking for).
  
  and for IR:
  
  (1) http://newtfmpage.com/forum/13161.23:32:31.html
  
  (2) http://newtfmpage.com/forum/18736.16.26.17.html
  
  (3) http://newtfmpage.com/forum/2616.15.52.59.html
  
  So who has double standards ? the forum ? there are only two possibilities:
  
  (1) You have seen all this before you said DF has double standards, but just blemed it becuase you are querulous.
  
  (2) You have not seen all these , but you blamed ignorantly in which case your arguements are baseless.
  
  Either way you are wrong.
  
  Cheers
  
  MS
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9) on: Tue May 16 16:08:37 EDT 2000
  
  oopss..that was not all. FYI, it was because it was found out that ARR copied, did we all get into the problem of deciding on copied songs. That was not a distant past, as you should be remembering.
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9) on: Tue May 16 16:19:52 EDT 2000
  
  Another point:
  
  some excerpts from your earlier postings.
  
  (1) Iam sure I will be derided again.
  
  (2) it was Mr.Udhaya who derided me for
  writing against ARR
  
  (3) And I have seen some contributors being
  derided in the IR new albums thread just
  for writing good about IR.
  
  Lot of derisions ? eh ? There are many pouncing on you ? If I had been in your position, I would rest and think for a while why these are generated instead of complaining again and again that I am being maligned. The world cannot be all wrong !
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ daecfp02.sprint.com) on: Tue May 16 17:06:45 EDT 2000
  
  I think it is time we renamed this thread "Athi's frustration with ARR":-)))
  
  
• From: SM (@ fs2.sgum.mci.com) on: Tue May 16 19:52:14 EDT 2000
  
  RajaG:-)))
  
  
• From: A (@ dyn2-254.kla-tencor.com) on: Wed May 17 21:28:09 EDT 2000
  
  This week's kumudam details the rift between
  VM & ARR. Apparently ARR has been feeling that VM
  talks too much ever since VM opened his mouth to
  talk about ARR settling in some foreign country
  during mudhalvan music launch. His irritation
  reached its crescendo during KK music launch. ARR has already stopped working with VM and started using pazhani bharathi/ilayakamban/vaali for his forthcoming albums such as thenaali/Udhaya etc.. much to the delight of the other TFM lyricists . Quite a few songs have been penned by these lyricwriters and recorded.
  
  Another interesting thing is, H.Jayaraj, who is ARR's top Keyboard Player (Keyboardist?) is scoring music for Majnu (BR's??) and VM is heavily promoting him as the 'puthu isai puyal'. H.Jayaraj
  has been working with ARR since Ratchakan. It is said that ARR is a fan of HJ's guitar skills.
  
  VM is expected to contribute more gAnA songs with
  deva in the future:-).
  
  *********************************************
  PS:
  
  In the previous issue, arasu bathilgaL said
  the following about the VM-ARR issue.
  
  "VM poRuththu poRuththu paarthaar, thaanga mudiyaamaal pongi vittaar.Raja vishayam theriyAdhaa. karuppu manidharukkuL irukkum
  veLLai idhayam"
  
  :-)
  
  
• From: bb (@ rochester-57.slip.uiuc.edu) on: Thu May 18 02:37:23 EDT 2000
  
  A, did the article really give that titbit on gAnA songs? poor VM:(
  
  
• From: suren (@ spider-wj043.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu May 18 12:19:43 EDT 2000
  
  Should the thread must read "ARR`s frustration with VM " rather than the other way around?
  
  
• From: Vazipokan (@ 1cust40.tnt6.redmond2.wa.da.uu.net) on: Sat May 20 18:07:52 EDT 2000
  
  Athi, claimed people get away ...looks like he is getting away :)
  
  
• From: KITKAT (@ hlr-81-78.tm.net.my) on: Sat May 20 22:22:54 EDT 2000
  
  Latest Info
  Arr is busy reading Sivasankari's book "Chinna noolkandaa nammai siraipaduthuvadhu"
  
  
• From: S (@ wwwgate32.motorola.com) on: Sun May 21 00:24:49 EDT 2000
  
  Latest Info
  SAR is busy washing his banians....
  
  ennappA idhu....arr book padikkaradhu, deva kuLikka pOradhu ellAm oru news A ??????
  
  
• From: alaghu (@ desmcache1.desm.uswest.net) on: Sun May 21 01:31:21 EDT 2000
  
  S you are too funny :)...I burst out laughing
  
  
• From: nvd (@ bkj-cache82.jaring.my) on: Sun May 21 01:44:51 EDT 2000
  
  mee too....hehehe..!
  
  
• From: Film_News_Govindan (@ spider-tn072.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun May 21 14:25:04 EDT 2000
  
  amAm amAm!, IR veettu nAi kutti pOdarathu mattuthAn news-A irukka mudiyum :-)
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ wwwgate1.motorola.com) on: Mon May 22 01:34:26 EDT 2000
  
  appadi nAn sollalayE :-)
  
  
• From: ECHO (@ hobbiton.org) on: Mon May 22 02:55:32 EDT 2000
  
  :)) ROTFL!
  
  
• From: vm (@ ) on: Sun Sep 7 13:59:37 EDT 2003
  
  Now the BOYS is a super flop moviewise and songwise. Vairamuthu will be very very happy Now.
  
  Hahahah
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 202.9.149.56) on: Sun Sep 7 14:31:28 EDT 2003
  
  vm,
  are u an archeologist by profession or what??!
  are u the one who found out about the Egyptian Queen? ... gosh...can i see u on Discovery Channel?!
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.234.157) on: Sun Sep 7 14:35:43 EDT 2003
  
  hey man, C~P, dogs are shown only on animal planet isn't it????? so better try that channel for finding vm....
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 202.9.149.181) on: Mon Sep 8 01:22:31 EDT 2003
  
  enna MADDY eppai solliteenga....naan vm ennavo archeologist maathri thaadi vechu, round kannadi poattiruppar-nu ninaichaen...avar ippadi 4 legs-la nadakka vechuteengaley neenga!! :)
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.233.16) on: Mon Sep 8 02:20:58 EDT 2003
  
  hey this is a ploy by someone to dig out old Anti-ARR threads to spice tup this page.... so ARR fans pls. refrain from posting in such Threads......
  hey this is a ploy by someone to dig out old Anti-ARR threads to spice tup this page.... so ARR fans pls. refrain from posting in such Threads......
  hey this is a ploy by someone to dig out old Anti-ARR threads to spice tup this page.... so ARR fans pls. refrain from posting in such Threads......
  
  
• From: OBSERVER (@ 66.119.34.39) on: Mon Sep 8 02:58:39 EDT 2003
  
  How come MADDY can go around swearing in vulgarity?
  
  Why is that the matha farkers from ARR camp find it disgusting when others use vulgarity but not when MADMAN(boy/gal/eunuch?) MADDY use it?
  
  
• From: vm (@ ) on: Mon Sep 15 17:32:44 EDT 2003
  
  At last ARR has a chance to make a hit in the next maniratnam's movie by vairamuthu.
  
  Hope that vairamuthu will give a life to ARR again after alaipayuthe.
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 203.117.10.18) on: Tue Sep 16 00:24:52 EDT 2003
  
  Really??
  
  U mean ARR really need to have a so called top notch collaborator/s and then only can he give produce anything good?.....leave alone bgm.
  
  tat's really sad.
  
  
• From: V (@ 147.129.97.242) on: Tue Sep 16 00:58:29 EDT 2003
  
  ambleen
  
  I should commend you for one thing.
  
  In the last few minutes (or even seconds) you have ventured into all ARR-related threads and have thrown your seeds of instigation to disturb peaceful discussions.
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 203.117.10.18) on: Tue Sep 16 03:55:59 EDT 2003
  
  V,
  
  Actually its nothing new. I am surprised you have to point that our spcecifically. I am only doing what your predecessors or even you used to do or are still doing.
  
  

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