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Raga of song please

Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
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The popular notation used on this page. The twelve notes of an octave are the following.

1   2   3   4   5   6   7  8   9  10  11  12
S  R1  R2  R3  G3  M1  M2  P  D1  D2  D3  N3
       G1  G2                     N1  N2

"Raga based film songs" Database | Old Database | Indian Classical Music Forum | Hindi Raaga of Songs Thread

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• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.178) on: Thu Mar 7 22:13:48 EST 2002
  
  IR_fan,IR,
  I played that song again and feel the same.I_R fan,the 1st line I think DOES show Ri in the aarohanam-listen to it carefully.
  Also,I found many other lines with Ri/Dha:teenage-llaaee...goes like:SaRiNiSaGa.....
  In the "briga"(pesa pidikkallayae..) in the charams shows the swaras:DaSaNiNi...Da
  There were many more that I found which I'm not able to recollect,as the song is new to me.
  So,cud Ilayaraaja have incorporated "foreign" swaras in so many lines keeping Shuddha Dhanyasi in mind?So I still feel it was not intended to be Shuddha Dhanyasi.
  But I also feel that it was not intended to be Abheri either,as IR said,it does not have strong reasons to be so.Well.....I dunno..
  IMO,the song is too mediocre to be given so much importance-if u hear it at 1 go,u won't even feel its Raaga-based.
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.178) on: Thu Mar 7 22:15:12 EST 2002
  
  Vaseegara-Natabhairavi.
  
  
• From: Dr.M.Bala (@ 203.121.0.15) on: Thu Mar 7 23:59:05 EST 2002
  
  Hello Sinduja
  
  Is it it sound more like Shanmugapriya? that is the prathi mathima counterpart of Natabairavi
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.182.13) on: Fri Mar 8 00:23:12 EST 2002
  
  I don't hear prati madhyamam anywhere.Can u point out where?
  
  
• From: harish (@ 202.54.26.125) on: Fri Mar 8 18:01:24 EST 2002
  
  can anybody please tell me what raaga is the song 'tu mile dil khile' from the movie criminal?
  
  
• From: geetha (@ 65.230.70.68) on: Fri Mar 8 20:51:19 EST 2002
  
  harish
  
  the raga for the song tu mile.....sounds like abheri.it is like nagumo...
  
  
• From: geetha (@ 65.230.70.68) on: Fri Mar 8 20:54:14 EST 2002
  
  is there any web site of A R Rahman,about the ragas he has used in his compositions.can anyone tell about this??????????
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Mon Mar 11 09:08:53 EST 2002
  
  Ragas used by rahman ...pls check the following site
  http://prabhuthemusiclover.tripod.com/arrahman
  
  (Note: It's my site only)
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Mon Mar 11 09:20:58 EST 2002
  
  varaha nadikkarayoram is based on yamen Kalyani
  
  
• From: geetha (@ 65.230.70.59) on: Tue Mar 12 00:12:14 EST 2002
  
  thanks prabhu for ur information,think u neef to include some more ragas of ARR also.
  like this site,is there sites for deva and other music directors also.pl. let me know?????
  
  
• From: geetha (@ 65.230.70.59) on: Tue Mar 12 00:14:01 EST 2002
  
  what is melakartha for the raag Vaasanthi.does anybody know????????
  
  
• From: ram (@ ) on: Tue Mar 12 01:22:01 EST 2002
  
  Geetha,
  Vasanti is janya of Chakravaham...
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Tue Mar 12 05:13:13 EST 2002
  
  iam not aware of any site on deva's and others...
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Tue Mar 12 05:15:26 EST 2002
  
  Geetha…
  Would be nice if u could give me the songs that I have missed out in my listing…I have few, which I am yet to upload…
  
  
• From: kamran Ali (@ 195.219.78.9) on: Tue Mar 12 09:02:55 EST 2002
  
  Can any one give me the URL of the website
  that contains film Shankarabharanam songs.
  Please mail me at the address:
  kam78pk@yahoo.com
  
  
• From: geetha (@ 65.129.39.28) on: Tue Mar 12 22:26:25 EST 2002
  
  ok prabhu
  i need to collect some cassettes of ARR.after that definitely will give the songs that u have missed.
  
  
• From: Dr.M.Bala (@ 211.24.0.8) on: Wed Mar 13 00:44:27 EST 2002
  
  Hello sinduja
  
  Is the song "Cninna chinna mazhai thuligal serthu vaipen naan. Chakravaagamo, Mazhaiyai arunthumaam naan chakravaaga paravai aaveno" from the movie "En Swasa Kaatre" is based on ckakravaagam raagam
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Wed Mar 13 00:48:15 EST 2002
  
  Cninna chinna mazhai thuligal serthu vaipen naan is sankarabaranam...Experts ...am i right??
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 134.121.73.88) on: Wed Mar 13 01:15:18 EST 2002
  
  Prabhu,
  I think itz more of Brindavani/Madhyamavati
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.182.108) on: Wed Mar 13 08:30:54 EST 2002
  
  Chinna chinna...:What I think is:-
  1st line:Abheri,2nd line(i.e from "sakkaravaana...):Madhyamaavati,the charanams:Shankarabharanam(but showing Ni2)
  Wow!What a kalakkal!!!
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Thu Mar 14 01:07:03 EST 2002
  
  thats really is a great kalakkal
  
  
• From: IR_Fan (@ 203.199.247.74) on: Sun Mar 17 04:54:04 EST 2002
  
  "shankarabharanam with Ni2" is what i think the song is.
  
  
• From: IR (@ 4.62.116.150) on: Sun Mar 17 20:28:43 EST 2002
  
  Oh a real kalakkal - thanks for pointing this out guys! I guess if you do not pay attention to the song it sounds like an ordinary song!!!! But it is indeed a kalakkal - of ragams!!!!
  
  Heard Chinna chinna mazhai thuligal just now - looks like it starts off in ShankarabharaNam - with gentle Harikhambodi touches (ni2)
  
  Pallavi is in Madhyamavathi
  CharaNam 1 is again in ShankarabharaNam with Harikhambodhi at the end.
  CharaNam 2 is in SriRagam!!!!!!
  
  Wonderful!
  
  
• From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Mon Mar 18 02:24:12 EST 2002
  
  Is this the same old IR? Never seen such an excited response from IsaiRasigai before :-)). U r right, within a single line in charanams, ARR alternates between Harikhambhodi (Ni2) and SB (nI3). :-) Can anyone point out more such "kalakal of ragas" ?
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.182.91) on: Mon Mar 18 06:14:08 EST 2002
  
  1 more GREAT(not in the +ve sense) kalakkal I think is Kannathil mutthamittaal.What a "musical digression" if I can call it!(Kaapi+Darbari Kaanada-pallavi,from enadu sondam neeye...-God knows what raaga it is-sounds vaguely like hamsaanandi(but also has M1,R2-which hamsaanandi doesn't include))
  pallavi-kkum charanathhukkum suttamaa samandam illai,which is why I don't like that song.
  But another song -kala-kala.....from Rhythm(by Sadhna Sargam),though involving 2 entirely different raagas(Shankarabharanam and Kaapi)is I think very pleasant to hear.
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.182.91) on: Mon Mar 18 06:17:51 EST 2002
  
  BTW,how comw no one has mentioned Abheri in "chinna chinna mazhaithuligal.."-the 1st line goes like-PaPaNiSaRiSaNiDaPaPaNiMaPa,SaSaGaMaPaMaGaRiSaSaGa
  NiSa.Doesn't this give the feel of Abheri?
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.182.91) on: Mon Mar 18 06:18:35 EST 2002
  
  Typo-read "comw" as "come"
  
  
• From: IR (@ 4.62.116.150) on: Mon Mar 18 09:23:24 EST 2002
  
  :-) IR Fan!
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 208.61.227.242) on: Mon Mar 18 10:59:38 EST 2002
  
  "pallavi-kkum charanathhukkum suttamaa samandam illai,which is why I don't like that song.
  "
  Sindhuja, I share the same opinion..unfortunately ARR does this quite a bit these days..even in "snehidhane", "porkalam enge", the continuity between pallavi and charanam wasnt there
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.200.1.174) on: Mon Mar 18 11:06:02 EST 2002
  
  yeah,snehidane is another apt eg.-I like the beginning a lot,but again,the connection is totally lost in the charanams-doesn't sound good.
  
  
• From: IR (@ 4.62.116.150) on: Mon Mar 18 11:51:30 EST 2002
  
  I am not sure about the song that Sindhuja is referring to from KM, but Snehidhane sounds pretty decent. He changes raga in the charaNam - to me it sounds more interesting than a predictable pallavi like score in the charaNams... but, I feel there is a "method to his madness" in this song... summa kidaichcha note ellam vaasikkamayaavadhu irukkaare! I sometimes feel songs like this, once in a while, are refreshing than smooth flowing melodies...
  Just my opinion!!
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.51) on: Mon Mar 18 21:44:11 EST 2002
  
  IR,I'm referring to the song KM itself.
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.51) on: Mon Mar 18 21:44:49 EST 2002
  
  i.e Nenjil jil jil...
  
  
• From: IR_Fan (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Mon Mar 18 23:34:26 EST 2002
  
  vijay & sindhuja, "Snehidhane" is a perfect example. IMHO, the song's pallavi & charanam seem disconnected, and charanam just doesn't melt sweetly into pallavi again. But a "kalakkal" of ragas neverthless !!.
  
  IR, u r right, atleast there is not a mindless mix of swaras. But in "snehidhane", the chorus bit (and whatever the lyrics, just cudn't grasp) breaks the melody created by female voice's lines.
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Tue Mar 19 05:46:00 EST 2002
  
  IR:
  Can you tell me the raga of Snehidane song???
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.200.1.212) on: Tue Mar 19 06:11:07 EST 2002
  
  Snehidane-saramathi+shades of sindhubhairavi
  Charanams-mohanam,shivaranjani,back to charamati.
  Is that right guys?
  
  
• From: IR (@ 4.3.191.17) on: Tue Mar 19 07:02:48 EST 2002
  
  that would be right Sindhuja..
  
  Let me listen to the other song you mentioned - is that the one by Jeyachandran? :-)
  
  
• From: Sindhuja (@ 203.200.5.196) on: Tue Mar 19 11:08:07 EST 2002
  
  IR,which one?Nenjil jil jil..?
  If its this one then it doesn't matter if its by Jayachandran or Chinmayi,coz both have the same tune.
  And what do u mean by "Let me listen to the other song you mentioned"?Don't tell me u haven't listened to Kannathil muttamitthaal songs!!Or did u mean that u wanted to listen to it carefully so that u can decipher the raaga properly?!
  
  
• From: IR (@ 38.220.167.213) on: Tue Mar 19 13:21:11 EST 2002
  
  Sindhuja - ippadiya maanaththa vaanguveenga :-)
  
  I heard KM songs as soon as they were released... to spot ragas, I need to listen carefully :-)
  
  

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