
Topic started by Sekar (@ 217.234.47.76) on Thu Jan 29 10:08:55 EST 2004.
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The Name of Superstar Rajanikanth's next movie released "" Arrokarra "" !!!!
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- From: paran (@ 203.123.16.168)
on: Mon Feb 2 04:45:12 EST 2004
anyway sorry abt the "Thiruvasagam" and "thirukural" confusion :)
so after u guys funded the project...
will u guys the audio for free?...or still have to pay for it?
- From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.3.22)
on: Mon Feb 2 04:55:13 EST 2004
hmmm nowadays Murukku and Seedai hav too become commodities. i dont find that enthusiasm in homes where they prepare for deepavali one month earlier. with all neighbors gathering together to make homemade sweets like ladoo, athirasam, murukku, seedai etc.,
if u find this as improvement frm the life we had 10 yrs ago ive got nothing to say.... other than feeling jealous abt u that u r able to compromise with this rotten life while iam not able to do so and yearn for the bygone enthusiatic life we had as childrens.
one of my uncles 12 yr old daughter asked me
'mama Enakku irubathu unakku pathinettu pattu kettingala superra irukku ...'
i asked 'yaemma Boys pattu superaa irukkunnu rendu maasathukku munnadi thaan sonna'
she replied 'athu appo, ippa boys bore adikuthu'
myself-'sari kangalal kaithu seinnu oru movie paatu release ayduchae kettiya'
she- ' illiyae aapdi oru padama innum enga schoolla atha pathi pesavae illiyae'
this happened one month back probably now she wud say E20U18 is bore while KKS is excellent!
this is what the present generation is carefree, summanachukkum thangaloda vazhkaya vazharathu. nothing to keep closer to their hearts. when one more MD comes tomm brighter than ARR. who can market himself well he'll become their Idol.
hmmm Globalization....
- From: paran (@ 203.123.16.168)
on: Mon Feb 2 05:00:24 EST 2004
rajaaaa...raaja....saar
even ARR did admitted that he is not to stay forever...and he doesn't want his songs to be remembered always as that will be some sort of wall to be hit by the new MD's..
just a question saar....are u using cellphone or car or laptop or PDA...well if now i give u Maatuvandi to go to ur Office..what would be ur comments?...
simply as that people move...
i am very much sure..ARR is not forever...but his music is...the reason and prove..u can still identify his Oldies even after 10 years...that's enough for me....
just like the question i always ask Ambleen...u don't listen to ur mother's thaalatu right now..do u..but does that means that her thaalatu is not good?...definitely NO....rite...
the same applies here..ARR's music is for current trend....that will constantly change...
- From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.3.22)
on: Mon Feb 2 05:11:05 EST 2004
i can list 100's of movies of IR which were badly made and succeded only cos of IR's music without any marketing or campaigning involved. can u come out with one such movie of ARR.
R U GAME
in case of ARR if the movie is bad the music flops too and wont reach anywhere. this happens 100%
in case of IR the musical content itself a main reason for the movie to become hit. but some movies r such that even this cant help. all along his career u can list a very few movies like this may be 10%
what kind of Risk ARR is taking when he is associating himself with big banners??????? he is in safe hands and he knows that he will be marketed well. well he doesnt bring any disrepute to them when he has more inputs during such projects due to the money involved.
money will buy anything today.......
elangaathu veesudhu was among TOP 3 in all channels for the year 2003. while i dint see Boys among those 3 in any of the channels here. may be in singapore and malaysia it wudve been no.1.
but we 7 crore tamilians in tamilnadu decided to opt out Boys :-)
- From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.3.22)
on: Mon Feb 2 05:18:04 EST 2004
well,
i dont listen my mothers thalattu anymore but definetely that has left a lasting impression in me that if and when i listen to anyother other mother singing thaalaattu for her baby i listen to it.and our life has degraded such that no mothers r singing lullabies for their children anymore.
well if u r adamant in comparing music and technological advancement. there is no way i can make u understand wat ART is or wat music is....
- From: paran (@ 203.123.16.168)
on: Mon Feb 2 05:22:20 EST 2004
well..films made badly..but run succesfully only for the songs...
let me tell u some weird list..
Super Police - (telegu dubbed movie) ran in tamil only for the songs
Taalam - (hindi dubbed) for the songs only....though the movie was not bad either...
Taj Mahal
Kathalar Thinam
Kathal Desam
and many more...if u want
anyway..Marketing alone can't decide a succcess..that is the case even in TFM..then what do u think of Global market.
By Associating with Big Banners ..and the product is movie perhaps...he need not to worry..as in he can say "well if I don't deliver then they will"..
but with ALW ..if ARR failed to deliver then that's it....the whole project flops...so can u see the risk?
anyway...by sayign that music alone can make a movie hit..
why EMV, Dhanush and KP...didn't run well?..
and out of that 7crore...i believe a few crores bought the BOYS album more than PM album...
- From: paran (@ 203.123.16.168)
on: Mon Feb 2 05:24:04 EST 2004
"there is no way i can make u understand wat ART is or wat music is"
well then listen to Anthimantarai, Jana Gana Mana, Zubeida, Ghazals in Tehzeeb and noew MEENAXI...
they are Art in the finest form....
- From: paran (@ 203.123.16.168)
on: Mon Feb 2 05:26:37 EST 2004
anyway Rajasaranam...
i did mentioned earlier....serving from ur MD is art for ..and serving from our MD is art for us..but u still had to comment on ARR to make IR glorified...
why?..i just don't understand this point
- From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.3.22)
on: Mon Feb 2 05:37:45 EST 2004
Super Police????? was there a movie like that
Taalam????? hmmm.. it ran for 175 days in singapore i believe
Tajmahal???? hmmmm.... again singapore
Kathalar dhinam??? oops so many movies runnign successfully in singapore... thats nice man...
Kadhal desam - KTKunjumon, kathir and tabu were not a reason for the sucess of the movie and KTK didnt even advertise for this movie. it ran only bcos of music hmmmm......
Anthimatharai----- BGM and everybody knows who is the best in that area.
Jana Gana Mana - i was thinking this was an unfinished album frm IR camp?
Zubeida, Tehzeeb and Meenaxi hmmmm... art in finest form. lemme check on that
ive never said ARR hasnt touched the ARTistical aspect of Music. its jus that iam finding the mean average of summed up ARR's and IR's musical content and saying that IR's music is 100% Art while ARR's is 10% Art and 90% commodity
KP and EMV were such films where even IR's music didnt help them. while Dhanushh didnt ever get released.
- From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.3.22)
on: Mon Feb 2 05:43:28 EST 2004
and out of that 7crore...i believe a few crores bought the BOYS album more than PM album...
sure i never refuted this fact.... but i said people opted for Elangaathu veesudhu when they had to decide best songs of 2003 over Boys here.
- From: cee fee (@ 210.214.132.217)
on: Mon Feb 2 05:43:44 EST 2004
>unfortunately we r oldtimers who still believe music as pure art form and its implications on our heart and soul not ur stupid statistical figures.
Statistical figures mean mass appreciation of music, that mass will have class too.
ARR is no deva to sell only "salomia - stuff"
>as of now u tend to look at sales figure and the way it is marketed and judge the quality. even Patriotism was made into a saleable commodity after ARR.
shows you're agaisnt evolution, its not bad if you sell patriotism to the next generation kids who are bound to watch FTV or MTV.
What is important is atleast he could produce a mesmerizing tune to sell Patriotism, when a old timer like Visu can understand and play it for the credit slide of Aratai arangam every time, i dont know why you're rigid, just because it is from ARR!
by the way, i read kumudam about Kamarajars movie, it seems IR got a third of his salary thats good but ARR got no salary for anthimantharai and Bharitiraja hailed ARR for that.
Besides Kamarajar movie is sinking due to lack of funds, why cant Raja donate some money to give life to the movie? Even the congress people aren't there to help the producer. you guys before bashing ARR and his Vande mataram check what IR is up to! Okay.
- From: paran (@ 203.123.16.168)
on: Mon Feb 2 05:54:54 EST 2004
rajasaranam...
100% art..
yea...songs like
"rossy rossy" from ramana
"thulu thulu" from Ivan
and defintely 1 song at least in each album.except for those i listen the best earlier...
and that is 100% art!....man....how's ur statistical works?...
- From: cee fee (@ 210.214.132.217)
on: Mon Feb 2 05:55:41 EST 2004
>what kind of Risk ARR is taking when he is associating himself with big banners??????? he is in safe hands and he knows that he will be marketed well. well he doesnt bring any disrepute to them when he has more inputs during such projects due to the money involved.
money will buy anything today.......
ARR had to work hard to reach where Sony is willing to buy his albums, if anyone can win the trust of sony or any multinational company then we could have seen Deva and others getting the same benifit ;) - huh what a logic!
>sure i never refuted this fact.... but i said people opted for Elangaathu veesudhu when they had to decide best songs of 2003 over Boys here.
Elangaathu veesuthe is sure a great number, no disputes there but how can you say people opted it, in the movie rankings PM was number 2 and Thirumalai was number 1, Does it show the credibility of the TV channel?
- From: paran (@ 203.123.16.168)
on: Mon Feb 2 05:59:46 EST 2004
anyway rajasaranam..
ur 7 crore ppl in Tamil Nadu (not disgracing ur ppl totally..sorry if i did)..
also opted for Manmatha Raasa...wow what an ART in it!...good job...
keep it up...
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