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A request to amateur composers who visit this page

Topic started by Vijay (@ 212.137.205.127) on Thu Nov 16 16:58:22 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

I'd like to request amateur composers who visit this page to tell me if they've uploaded any of their work onto the internet and if they have, please tell me where I can listen to it. Thank You.

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Some composers to check out (in no particular order): Jay, Srikanth, Ganesh, Eswar, Sridhar Seetharaman, Kumar, Rjay.

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• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.161) on: Sat Jan 26 03:18:53 EST 2002
  
  Maybe the project that we can all work on can be on World Peace - the first Internet composition by Tamil Composers living across the globe !
  What do you all think ?
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.5.140) on: Tue Jan 29 09:17:11 EST 2002
  
  KrishnaMurthy/Srikanth/Others:
  
  I want to know how you find the tempo of some audio?
  
  This question may be answered by anybody who has done the following:
  
  - MIDI sequencing of some film song - ofcourse done in the same tempo.
  - Somebody using (drum)loops in Audio Track, while their other instrumentations are sequenced in MIDI.
  
  So please can you guys take time in answering this question.
  
  Regards,
  Aditya
  
  
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.202.17) on: Tue Jan 29 14:37:18 EST 2002
  
  Aditya
  I have something for you regarding your bhajans
  enq I have a nice peice of Jai uttal willing to upload,The way he has handled Charukesi ragam with hanuma chalisa sents goose bimble ooh :)
  
  
• From: Srikanth (@ 151.201.226.240) on: Tue Jan 29 16:35:50 EST 2002
  
  Aditya,
  I usually just sit and sync with a midi clock. If drum machines are used in the song it is easy to find the BPM, if natual instruments, it takes time. Just trust/train your ears to do this.
  
  If the loop is not acidized or Groove controlled it is little bit hard to find the bpm. However, triton can detect the bpm to some extent for a given loop. If you have protools, there is something called groove detective.
  
  Even though most sample cds come with published BPMs, Sync is big time hard work.
  
  Hope the above info helps.
  
  
• From: Jay (@ 209.10.124.134) on: Tue Jan 29 17:08:37 EST 2002
  
  I do it by trial and error. Play the song, get the metronome and figure it out.
  
  
• From: Eswar (@ 63.194.254.134) on: Tue Jan 29 18:40:25 EST 2002
  
  Cosmician,
  
  I had put that kind of idea before in this forum, none replied. Probably my music is not that good :o(
  
  Anywayz, count me in for that colaboration (if you find my music interesting enough :)
  
  
• From: Eswar (@ 63.194.254.134) on: Tue Jan 29 18:41:55 EST 2002
  
  BTW, I am a pure FruityLoops/Impulse Tracker/Buzz guy! I am into digital composing big time. Hope that is not a problem
  
  
• From: Srikanth (@ 151.201.226.240) on: Tue Jan 29 20:30:09 EST 2002
  
  Eswar, first rule to be a musician,
  dont have fixed opinions on your music. some might like some will trash it., be ready for that:)
  . now...coming to this collaboration ,
  , if you see everyone has a job to do and mostly people here are in the US, it is recession time here, so people are just covering their @ss....to remain in the job, this might be the reason no one replied your posting.. Secondly remote music colaboration is new concept, If some one gives a start and things work out I can contribute how much ever I can.
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.5.173) on: Wed Jan 30 14:10:41 EST 2002
  
  Srikanth:
  
  Thanks for the answer.
  
  I had a tough time in aligning the boundaries of audio with the Measures in the CAKEWALK Sequencer.
  
  I recorded somebody's vocal on some audio track with some basic rhythm played/looped ( for recording purpose ) on one of MIDI tracks, the singer has done good job and left in hurry.
  At the time of recording, MIDI tracks were played to the singer ears and I monitored the audio alone. I learnt that this was a mistake. Later I realized the tempo in audio track was slightly different. I had to rerecord the vocals later. Besides learnt that the monitoring has to be done on the whole and rerecord if needed.
  
  Regards,
  Aditya
  
  
• From: Srikanth (@ 216.65.106.130) on: Wed Jan 30 15:29:48 EST 2002
  
  Aditiya,
  Basically the routing is the key,
  while singing, the singer should be able to hear his/her voice along with the background track in their head phones. The singer will be more comfortable if you add a light reverb to his vocals. How ever while recording you should record just dry. Meaning reverb must not go into the recorded track, and be careful if you give more reverb on the track singer might miss something.
  Timting is a very important aspect, if you use a computer interface to record vocals, it is pain, unless you have hiend consoles like protools, Most of them are not suitable of vocals recording as they depend on computer clock. For midlevel DAWs like cakewalk, you need a midi/audio controller this makes recording easy. I prefer to record using a dedicated recorder like Korg d16 or Roland vss.
  
  Reading your story, i think the singer was missing some timining inspite of hearing midi track, the person who moniters has to be very careful to make sure they sing on time. Syncing later is a back breaking job, often does not work out.
  
  You need to get a good mixer (even a 8 track will do) and a head phones distribution amp, things be easy then.
  all the best, upload the vocals soon.
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.5.113) on: Wed Jan 30 17:08:02 EST 2002
  
  Srikanth:
  
  Thanks again for taking time in understanding my problem. Well as always, your suggestions out of great experience are extremely valuable.
  
  BTW, it's been long time...update us with your any latest score.
  
  Regards,
  Aditya
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 192.138.150.249) on: Wed Jan 30 23:56:49 EST 2002
  
  Guys..tell me whether this program is good enough for counting BPM
  http://www.pyramidedata.dk/autobpm.html
  I am planning to use this to research the BPM of hit songs :)
  
  
• From: Srikanth (@ 151.201.226.240) on: Thu Jan 31 08:34:24 EST 2002
  
  Kiru, Best to count BPM is to have an electronic metronome, Start the song , start the electronic metronome set to speed little more than song, slowly keep reducing the metronome to sycn with the song. Yes it is a pain, but this is the best way.
  
  There are many similar devices/software to do this, most of them come close to find the Bpm, however does not work 100%. At a point of time We need to adopt the trial and error method using our ears.
  
  BPM can also be calcualted mathematically based on the Time signature and song length. This is done mostly for Dance scores. A Dance part is often derived based on the BPMs.
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.5.144) on: Thu Jan 31 10:08:23 EST 2002
  
  Srikanth:
  
  What did u mean by Dance Scores - are you referring to Dance Genre of Western Music?
  
  - Aditya
  
  
• From: Eswar (@ 63.194.254.134) on: Thu Jan 31 10:40:03 EST 2002
  
  Srikanth,
  
  I understand that recession part since I am in USA as well :)
  
  Regards,
  Eswar
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 213.42.1.245) on: Thu Jan 31 11:17:27 EST 2002
  
  Hi Eswar
  
  Could u post ur link of ur site..if u have uploaded them...would like to hear them...
  Well..let's start the ball rolling...and maybe others will pitch in then !
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 213.42.1.245) on: Thu Jan 31 11:21:08 EST 2002
  
  Just now read Srikanth's post...like he says let's start off something firs...BTW I'm also a purely digital composer...i guess we are still very much beginners..do u know any music theory...i do my composing mostly spontaneously.
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.202.17) on: Thu Jan 31 11:48:16 EST 2002
  
  Swamiji
  I had the chance to hear your midis man ,they simply amazing.
  Looking forward to hear ur own compositions.
  If possible can you explain something about chord progression you can take some popular songs to explain that
  thanks
  
  
• From: Eswar (@ 63.194.254.134) on: Thu Jan 31 13:33:25 EST 2002
  
  Cosmician,
  
  My name is on the top of the forum :) You could jump straight to my page. There are 2 songs which I request you to hear, "The Mist" and the "Singing with the wind". "Rhythm" is a mistake :). I have put it up there so that whenever I see that name, I would remember that my music used to suck big time :)
  
  Am working on a trance piece on Gambeera Naatai right now. Planning to post it in 2 or 3 days
  
  
• From: Krishnamurthy (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Thu Jan 31 13:35:49 EST 2002
  
  Thanks UV,
  
  As you pointed out, you will understand progressions with examples better. Let me start with basic progressions.
  
  I - first note (or tone)
  V - fifth (for ex, G is fifth of C)
  IV - Fourth (for ex, F is the fourth of C)
  all smaller case letters reflect minor
  v - Minor of V
  
  major scales have these diatonic triads:
  I - ii - iii - IV - V - vi - vii dim - I
  
  example of progressions:
  I - IV - V7 - I
  (C - F - G7 - C)
  The V7th usually "leads" to I (if you listen to G7 to C, you can feel F-note moving and landing smoothly on E-note)
  
  or this
  ii - V7 - I
  (Dm - G7 - C)
  *** you can substitue chords with added tension. tension = notes not in the scale.
  for example: Dm7(9) - G7 - CM7
  
  These are just few simple examples - all coming back to the tone we started with. Some progressions modulate inbetween (meaning change scale) and land in a different scale. We will talk about that later.
  
  Remember that chords are written using root names - no matter what bass note you play. Inversions means playing a chord starting with notes other than its root.
  
  Now coming back to progressions - as I understand it, it is a smooth, pleasing (whatever u may call it) manner in which the chords move (or its root "names" move). Theres nothing which limits you from writing progressions, but if you play the bass note (atleast), you should hear a smooth melody.
  
  Time is running out, I will write more later.
  
  
  
  
• From: Krishnamurthy (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Thu Jan 31 13:40:08 EST 2002
  
  If possible please read articles Prasanna writes. Those require prior knowledge of common progressions, but read / play them anyways. Very resourceful.
  
  http://www.guitarprasanna.com/Column/
  
  - kishmu
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.202.17) on: Thu Jan 31 14:23:04 EST 2002
  
  Super Kitcha
  Danyan anen swami :)
  You are the man !!
  Can you also explain about Suspended ones ?!
  
  I guess it should be similar to the one you mentioned in IVth ?
  
  In this regard i would like to bring these 2 songs
  'Netru Intha Neram' and 'Idho our nila kalam' for the Movie Tic Tic.
  
  I find these songs very much in the footsteps of Jazz music(may be I am wrong)going by the way chords go about
  
  The way IR has handled the songs is amazing
  with great opening and ending
  
  can you talk about these song only for musicwise and not to glorify the composer otherwise ;)
  
  

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