Topic started by bb (@ 24.4.254.104) on Tue Feb 20 03:21:22 EST 2001.
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Hi! We've made a major addition to newtfmpage, and that is a big song bank. Dhool features thousands of songs for your listening pleasure. This site is a part of the newtfmpage.com - swara.com group. Together with newtfmpage, we wish to make this the best place to listen to tamil film songs online and know about tamil film music. Our collection includes old, new, famous, rare and unheard of songs. We are still fine tuning and fixing the database errors, so please bear with us. We value your feedback, and this will help us build the site better. Please post your comments below or mail to comments@newtfmpage.com.
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- From: Peter Pan (@ 194.170.246.121)
on: Mon Oct 4 04:23:35 EDT 2004
bb,
Saravanan irukka bayamEn? :)
- From: Chandramouli (@ 65.162.184.6)
on: Mon Oct 4 05:01:27 EDT 2004
I would like to know the singer of the song (Ore oru urile ore oru raja) It is a sivaji film. Can anybody give me the correct information.
- From: AV (@ 132.206.114.121)
on: Mon Oct 4 11:30:33 EDT 2004
That was a fantastic interview. Hats off to everyone for such lovely questions and hats off to SPB for giving such well-detailed answers!
Just wondering though: has SPB really sung 30,000 songs in his career (similarly has Yesudas really sung 40,000 songs?)? Is there an encyclopedia which lists all the songs SPB has sung in his career? How have people arrived at the figure of 30,000 (with 4 trailing zeros :-))? He started his career 35 years ago, which means he sang nearly 900 songs per year, i.e. 2 to 3 songs every day. That seems kind of impossible. Didn't he have holidays or a family? Didn't he go through periods of illness and didn't he take time off to give live concerts all over the world? Furthermore, I am sure even *he* must have had to practice some of those very difficult songs before he could record them to perfection. Even Mohd. Rafi is known to have rehearsed one and the same song for a week before having it recorded.
Taking all this into account, I find the number of songs (30,000) quite inflated. For instance, people in India would have all kept on believing that Lata, Asha and Rafi had each sung 40,000 songs until a gentleman named Vishwas Nerurkar broke the myth and published an encyclopedia of Hindi songs, showing that the numbers were actually 6000, 5000 and 12000 (for Lata, Rafi and Asha respectively). Admitted that SPB was very prolific in Tamil and Telugu (and both these film industries are larger than Bollywood). True it is that in South India, all artists release many devotional albums for private labels. But even then, the quantity of 30K seems rather exaggerated.
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.183)
on: Mon Oct 4 11:37:25 EDT 2004
Good one, bb.
Lyrics by Kambadasan.
Kannin Manigal (1956/ Maheshwari Pictures) had some excellent songs written by Kambadasan and tuned by SVV. 'kaNdukoNdEn naanE, kaadhal endRaal ennavendRu thaanE' is a quaint, dreamy duet by T.A.Mothi & Balasaraswathi. 'kaalam maaRi pOchchu' is a hard-hitting NSK ditty. 'nalla veeNai idhE' is another MLV classic.
I am not sure, but vaguely remember reading somewhere that the film had Sivaji in its cast.
Peter Pan, therinjathu avvalavu thaan! Perhaps a.a/Raj/SK will able to add to the info.
Chandramouli, that song is from padikkatha mEdhai, sung by TMS & Soolamangalam Rajalakshmi.
- From: * (@ 209.142.209.161)
on: Mon Oct 4 12:39:14 EDT 2004
AVR, similar discussion is here:
http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/6490.23274.16.58.28.html
- From: AV (@ 132.206.114.121)
on: Mon Oct 4 12:55:39 EDT 2004
*:
That does not answer the question about the accuracy of SPB's claim to have sung 30K songs. I am sure you realize :-)
Thanks.
- From: app_engine (@ 136.2.1.101)
on: Mon Oct 4 16:15:56 EDT 2004
AV, was it SPB's claim? I think it was part of bb's question on whether he was not choosy (to sing unimaginable 20K-30K)...though SPB kind-of acknowledged it, it's technically incorrect to say that it was his `claim':-))
- From: a.a. (@ 69.199.179.235)
on: Mon Oct 4 22:36:36 EDT 2004
`Kannin Manigal’ had a new hero by the name Sundar and Padmini as heroine and M.K.Radha and Lalitha (?) in the supporting roles. I do not remember seeing Shivaji in the movie.
There was another movie called `Marma Veeran’ had Shivaji, Gemini, Ranga Rao and few others playing guest roles. They all appear in one song scene as friends of Sri Ram.
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.186)
on: Mon Oct 4 23:59:36 EDT 2004
a.a., thanks for the information!
- From: bb (@ 24.6.251.57)
on: Tue Oct 5 01:37:38 EDT 2004
Song of the Day: ooradangum saamathilE from pudhupatti ponnuthayi.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/ooradangum.rm
- Sung by Swarnalatha and Uma Ramanan. Music by Ilayaraja.
- Pudhupatti ponnuthayi was supposed to be a musical hit, a modern-day Thillana MohanambaL. IR collaborated with Thiruvizha Jayashankar and Valayapatti (I think) for this film. It had a number of carnatic-based songs, yet the one that was the biggest draw was "ooradangum saamaththilE". A haunting song with the seducing voice of Swarnalatha makes this a memorable one.
- Un/Under Recogized Gems of IR in the '90s: http://newtfmpage.com/forum/3670.01.17.34.html
- Thread on Swarnalatha: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/15140.05.36.34.html
- From: MS (@ 24.168.196.217)
on: Tue Oct 5 02:15:19 EDT 2004
I think this beautiful song was 'spotted' in midnight TV 'attractions' :-) A great song indeed.
- From: raj (@ 61.246.255.3)
on: Tue Oct 5 04:18:36 EDT 2004
A Great Song b'fully sung by Swarnalatha & UR
- From: mythila (@ 193.88.72.130)
on: Tue Oct 5 09:15:54 EDT 2004
Kannin maniye - Seeing names like MLV , SVV, I expected a hard core carnatic song. But I was surprised to hear a light weight ragamalika (Bhimplaas, Kaapi) . MLV effortlessly glides through this nice song.
- From: Vajjar (@ 164.164.12.225)
on: Tue Oct 5 11:38:25 EDT 2004
Could anyone please tell me where i can download the song "Rendu kannam sandhana kinnam" from "Sivappu malli", music is done by Shankar ganesh, one of the best of shankar ganesh.
- From: Babu (@ 167.68.0.66)
on: Tue Oct 5 14:20:30 EDT 2004
ooradangum saamathilE - good song. Reminds me of Guruvayoorappa from pudhup pudhu arthangaL
- From: MumbaiRamki (@ 151.148.60.180)
on: Tue Oct 5 14:47:18 EDT 2004
I remember hearing this song 10 years before (approx) and iam bit nostaglic to hear this song ..
ALso there is one more song called " mallika mottu masa thottu " from a movie starring selva and kanaka ..It's a amazing melody ...
- From: Shyam (@ 24.148.77.119)
on: Tue Oct 5 20:07:02 EDT 2004
Mallika Mottu manasa thottu.. great song.. Sung by Arun mozhi/Swarnalatha i guess! The movie name is 'Saktivel'.. Nebody who had commuted between Cuddalore and Chidambaram would have heard this song a zillion times... Where else?, but in the buses.
- From: bb (@ 24.6.251.57)
on: Wed Oct 6 01:02:01 EDT 2004
Song of the Day: kaadhal viLaiyaada from kaNmaNi raja.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/kaadhalvi.rm
- Saravanan writes:
bb, rajaG and Srikanth, kudos to your efforts in bringing SPB to newtfmpage!
This one is for you: ‘kaadhal viLaiyaada’ from kaNmaNi raja.
Sung by SPB & P.Suseela. Lyrics by Kannadasan. Music by MSV.
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kaNmaNi raja (1974/ Muthuvel Movies) starred Sivakumar, Lakshmi, M.N.Rajam, Thengai Srinivasan & others. It was scripted by Balamurugan and directed by Devaraj-Mohan.
The story traversed the usual domestic feud- the clash of wills between the haughty dowager Jayalakshmi (M.N.Rajam) and the poor, yet proud Janaki (Lakshmi) whom Jayalakshmi’s son (Sivakumar) woos and weds. Things take an almost irreversible path of simmering antagonism between the two women. However the birth of the grandson, and their love for him sets the way for the rift to mend. Shedding aside her exaggerated sense of amour propre, Jayalakshmi finally accepts Janaki wholeheartedly. Curtains!
The film was one among many such clichéd ventures, and probably doesn’t deserve to be remembered at all, had it not been for two songs. Sift patiently through the chaff: the platitudinous LRE number ‘yEi machchaan meesai vechE’, and the precocious proclamation by Pushpalatha ‘ naan aaNaiyitaal’; and you’re left stunned with the remains: two dazzling duets by SPB and PS: ‘Odam kadalOdum’ and ‘kaadhal viLaiyaada’.
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It is surely SPB’s fault that he overwhelmed the 70s with a plethora of bewitching songs; for had he sung only a handful, we would have found it easier to remember, celebrate and cherish each work of his. As it happens, every year of that magnificent decade boasts nonchalantly of numerous remarkable compositions of MSV, V.Kumar, Vijayabhaskar, S-G and later IR, all brought to immortal life by the exuberant songster. Dazed by the sheer numbers, we very often tend to inadvertently pass over some truant treasures. And this surely is one such oft-overlooked gem that needs to be pulled out from oblivion and resurrected to its rightful glory.
The period of courtship is past (represented by ‘Odam kadalOdum), the marriage has been solemnized; they are now overcome by the whirl of the rapture that that initial days of marital life evokes. Looking forward to a life filled with joys, and with hearts brimming with hopes of such joys lasting forever, they sing this song. The situation is this; and the setting is sylvan Kodaikanal. And what a wondrous winner our mellisai mannar comes up with!
The magic begins with the arresting pallavi; MSV does away with a prelude here. SPB just needs a few deft notes, and we revel vicariously in those vivacious vistas of conjugal bliss that he instantly summons up. PS, that unassuming, yet ideal voice of femininity, soars gracefully in tandem with SPB’s ecstatic flight. The song is filled with unforgettable moments; my heart goes aflutter in delight each time I listen to PS rounding off that humming repartee in the first interlude- has unshackled, surging happiness ever found such disarming delineation? SPB has done it before, and he has done it since, yet his hushed amusement in ‘pollaadha vetkam varum’ is a erennial joy. The buoyant arrangements of the charaNams showcase the intuitive MSV in his elements.
endRum idhu nindRu nilavum!
- From: raj (@ 61.246.255.3)
on: Wed Oct 6 03:04:51 EDT 2004
A lovely song & sung b'fully by PS & SPB
thanks
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