Topic started by Jay (@ bat-50-212.tm.net.my) on Thu Mar 30 11:45:56 EST 2000.
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hi guys,
For me spb is the best bcos he is an all rounder/versatile and conquered tfm 4 a long time...But some are saying that upcoming singers like HH and UK already reached spb's stature and maybe better than him...What are your comments??? I am a fanatic fan of this great spb..so my fellow fanatics,plz e-mail me if you want to discuss more abt spb.....
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- From: IMF (@ 204.50.249.133)
on: Fri Jun 22 14:26:23 EDT 2001
I heard from Swamiji one day that IR used to play the guitar for Shankar-Jaikishan. IR is a harmonium player and a guitar player. I was wondering if anyone of you know about this fact and know if he played for other MD's as well. Your info would be kindly appreciated.
See ya !!
- From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201)
on: Fri Jun 22 17:29:18 EDT 2001
IR has played the guitar for Salil Chawdhury
- From: rajaG (@ 207.43.195.202)
on: Fri Jun 22 18:59:16 EDT 2001
Swamiji: ivana nambi neengaLum ippdi news ellam solrELE. ivan kudhirai kku gurram naa aanaikku arram nu unga pEr a engEyaavadhu repair paNNi vaippaan:-)
- From: by IMF Logic (@ 148.87.1.170)
on: Fri Jun 22 22:54:51 EDT 2001
since IR himself has played guitar for salil chowdhary, salil chowdhary is a better MD than IR.
- From: mahesh (@ 202.9.149.223)
on: Sat Jun 23 00:47:35 EDT 2001
mr y, please do not bring in the name of singer srinivas to the picture. some standards have to be maintained when speaking about spb,rafi,kk,tms.
- From: S T S (@ 65.3.195.189)
on: Sun Jun 24 13:24:08 EDT 2001
Swamiji/rajaG,
IR playing guitar for Salil? I am wondering they were Bombay based MDs and must have recorded in Bombay. You mean IR went to Bombay for this or they recorded in Madras? Just wondering. Forgive my ignorance.
- From: y ?? (@ 148.87.1.170)
on: Sun Jun 24 17:20:44 EDT 2001
man mahesh,
dont get offended, dude . I am as big a fan of SPB , if not bigger, as are u. we were just trying to analyse SPB's rise and the 'so-called' fall here and that demands some unbiased and maybe difficult-to-stomach reasonings.
-- there's bound to be someone as good as the coterie u mentioned who WILL come up as another classic singer ... Also, SPB started singing sometime in late 60's .. I think his first song was in telugu in 1969 . .under kodandapani ( a telugu MD .. dunno if he did any tamil mvoies .. SPB regards him as his guru even today ..thats a diff.. thing ).. people noticed him the first time when he pitted his voice against ghantasala in one of TeFM's memorable jugalbandi-ish songs .. in a movie 'eka veera' .. still, it took the decline of ghantasala, IR's vehement backing .. and a lot of directors' belief in his talent to make SPB what he is today .. and that must ahve taken a cool 10 years atleast ... when did Srinivas start singing ???
- From: fan (@ 202.9.148.141)
on: Mon Jun 25 00:18:15 EDT 2001
mr y , where is the question of so called spb fall .
spb has reduced his singing activities.vilaiyum payir mullayileye therium. so about singer srinvas, dont mention. if your his fan, ask him not to comment on the elders in this field.chinna paiyan.
- From: Manithan (@ 195.92.67.65)
on: Sat Jun 30 06:57:42 EDT 2001
Listen guys, this discussion is about S.P.B, but how come the discussions are leading to music directories, listen guys S.P.B is the best singer in India, not Raffi, SPB sang 40,000, raffi sang about 30,000, hence SPB > Raffi, some idiots mentioned that SPB modulates his voice 4 actors, He only does that 4 superstar "Rajnikanth", accoridng to Rajni's style, any way even if he does modulate his voice for actors, isn't that great?, that's something that Mohammed Raffi could not do, SPB express all navarsam( all expressions, such as happiness, sadness, anger) all through his songs, I can not think of any singer who can do that in Indian music, by the SPB rocks as well as classics, melodys, but Raffi can not rock as SPB, thanks
- From: meena (@ 203.121.0.13)
on: Sat Jun 30 08:27:42 EDT 2001
I just perfer to tell that,although many arguments and comments about SPB only he can be best TMF play back singer forever.I 100% support what were said by manithan.Only SPB can do the modulation very well for all kind of songs!!!!!!!!!SPB the great.
- From: PRIYAN (@ 203.54.46.105)
on: Sat Jun 30 09:47:02 EDT 2001
SPB is the most versatile singer tamil music world have ever seen, no doubt about that.Certainly he is one of the best.
- From: Karunakaran (@ 24.102.221.32)
on: Sat Jun 30 09:47:53 EDT 2001
True SPBis blessed with a great voice and his talent is unmeasurable. He has an unlimited supply of variants. There was another background singer who was able to modulate his voice and emote well. He is T.M. Saoundararajan. However TMS did not have an amazing voice like SPB. However he was able to emote extremely well.
To sivaji Ganeshan "Antha naal gnapaham nenjile vanthathe" to "Vasantha Malihai" songs.
Also MGR songs "Aandhavan ulahathin muthalali".
- From: y ?? (@ 148.87.1.170)
on: Sat Jun 30 14:31:02 EDT 2001
appa fan ...
it cud have been anyone, if not for Srinivas .. I don't become anyone's fan just like that ... I just mentioned Srinivas since lot of MDs are considering him these days. cud be Rajesh, Harish Raghavendra .. anyone .. but my basic claim is that someone who is of that high quality is bound to come and we just keep hoping the next good singer is that one .... ofcourse, considering ARR's whims, I don't think he wud let anyone settle down to dominate totally .. so, those days of dominatino like TMS, SPB are gone I think ....
cool down dude ...
- From: TFM-Fan (@ adsl-151-203-26-253.bostma.adsl.bellatlantic.net)
on: Thu Jul 5 20:42:10 EDT 2001
Subbudu's recent comments:
http://www.kumudam.com/kumudam/kweekly/pg28.html
- From: fan (@ 202.9.147.16)
on: Fri Jul 6 10:06:37 EDT 2001
spb pola endha kombanavathu paduvana. this is subbud's query for not giving barat ratna to south indian artistes.
- From: YG Krishnan (@ dialpool-210-214-209-64.maa.sify.net)
on: Sat Jul 7 16:29:24 EDT 2001
SPB is the best singer both in Tamil and in Telugu, his feats are unparalleled by anyone until. I came to know from a recent interview of his in GEMINI TV(Telugu Channel) that he modulates his voice only for MGR, Rajani, NTR and ANR.
He is such a versatile singer and a blessed one too
- From: Latha (@ spider-wq081.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sat Jul 7 22:03:41 EDT 2001
"S.P.B" that's the only letters I love in english, because he is the not only the good singer, he is also a kind,respectfull man. I know becaue I got the great chance to meet that great, wonderful man. There will be always something speality in his each and ever song. He is a GREAT singer i have ever listen to. I really welcome his latest hits very much and god may bless him for his health and his future hits. WE ALL LOVE YOU S.P.B!!!
- From: gentelman (@ 203.197.80.104)
on: Sun Jul 8 00:52:59 EDT 2001
some idiot here feels rafi could not modulate his voice to suit heroes. Thats rubbish. He could modulate his voice for Dilip Kumar to Rishi - EVERYONE he sang for, so much so that it is possible to make out the hero for which a certain Rafi song is sung, without seeing the song's picturization.
- From: fan (@ 202.9.180.151)
on: Sun Jul 8 01:32:46 EDT 2001
gentleman, rafi may be equally great in all aspects, but certainly his voice is not that sweet as spb's. please accept that and the fact that is spb's is the unparalled king
- From: gentelman (@ 203.197.80.104)
on: Sun Jul 8 02:24:31 EDT 2001
sorry, Rafi's voice is sweeter than SPB. Also, Rafi is THE KING - thats a fact. SPB is the king of bad singers
- From: Manic_basha2001 (@ webcacheh03a.cache.pol.co.uk)
on: Sun Jul 8 05:10:23 EDT 2001
Sorry,
gentlemen, but I hate to say this, but u r such an idiot!!. SPB has the best voice in India, no bloody doubt about that, Can raffi sing "Shankarabaranam", if he did it will sting like BS, SPB sang 40,000 songs, Raffi sang 30,000 songs, hence using simple algebra;
SPB > Raffi
About raffi's voice, he sings with his nose, where else SPB does not, can raffi beat SPB's laugh, when he signs, of course he can not, can raffi cry like SPB, when signs of course he can not.
I am a great fan of SPB, I sign all his songs in concerts & competition, I have finished my carnatic music too, so I am not talking BS here!.
what makes me laugh is that, raffi studied "Hindustani", music & 99% of south indian singers, even the worst singers who try to immitate SPB, like Mano have all studied carnatic music,BUT SPB DID NOT UNDER GO ANY TRAINING IN CLASSICAL MUSIC. Just listen to his voice man,
what an enchancing, awsome voice he has, what a gift from God!, I wish for god to support SPB throughout his life, as HE IS THE LEGENDARY SINGER, THAT INDIA HAS EVER SEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!, I am sorry Gentlemen but u will have to accept it & live with it!!!
- From: spb fan (@ 202.151.196.61)
on: Sun Jul 8 08:51:20 EDT 2001
Hello mr.gentelman
First of all try to mind
ur words plz,cause we are
talking about our great SPB.
So dont ever try to say bad
about him.
Although many argument were
done people like u
only SPB can be best everlasting singer.
Mind it!!!!!!!!
We love u SPB.
- From: prem (@ 202.151.196.61)
on: Sun Jul 8 09:03:35 EDT 2001
A million thanks for u mr.manic_basha
U just noted out whatever i think
in my mind!
Only singer who able to
modulate his voice for all
actors is the great genius SPB!
Plz try to put in ur mind gentelman.
People like are jealous with spb
and couldnt except that he is the best!
So u were trying to say out such things
If u want to talk about ur favourite
singer open a new side!
Dont disturb us.
- From: Manic_basha2001 (@ webcachew02b.cache.pol.co.uk)
on: Sun Jul 8 14:44:24 EDT 2001
Well said, Prem, there are many who r jealous of SPB's amazing voice, hence they suffer from inferiority complexity, such as Mr.Gentlemen, sorry to say this but his comments & name do not match !!!, I have been a great SPB fan since 1970's, even though I like KJY & Jeyachandran a lot.
Raffi, has a blocked nose voice, I am sorry to say this, but it is true, hence his voice suits most of the hindi actors, but SPB has a great voice, a voice that is incompairable. Just listen to all SPB's Hindi songs in "maine pyar kiya","Saggar","Sajan","Ek du che kiliye","Hum apke khon", i can not think any more. SPB also directed music for some super hit films (25 films) like"Sigaram", (remember "vannam konda ven nliave"), thudikkum karangal (Rajni filem)
Did raffi direct any music 4 films???, er
Did KJY direct any music 4 film???, er
Did TMS direct any music 4 films????, er
so the equation is ;
SPB > KJY>Raffi
- From: IMF (@ 204.50.249.133)
on: Sun Jul 8 22:43:37 EDT 2001
Manic_basha2001 you are the BIGGEST IDIOT of them all. Rafi singing through his nose ???. Give me a break ??. All those hindi songs SPB sang, his voice sounds too thick and low. Rafi has a 100 times more beautiful voice than SPB. The only person who sings through his nose is Kumar Sanu. If Rafi sang through his nose, I don't think he would be the most loved singer in India. And you can't handle the fact Rafi is the best and not SPB. We can !!!. You can't also handle the fact that SPB even himself idolizes Rafi and his inspiration to become a singer was Rafi Sahab. Now tell me, is SPB an ignorant person and a crazy person to have Rafi as his idol a person who sings through his nose ( as you claim) which is total CRAP and BS. He can very well have Kumar Sanu as his idol then. Rafi is the king of kings ok. And don't give BS like he has sung more songs because Rafi had already sung more than 30,000 songs 20 years ago and SPB only passed that after his death !!. Think about that ok. Get your facts straight.
Raffi, has a blocked nose voice, I am sorry to say this, but it is true, hence his voice suits most of the hindi actors, but SPB has a great voice, a voice that is incompairable.
Oh ya !!. Is that right ???. Blocked Nose my a**. And hindi actors don't have nose voices. If they did, i don't think Rafi could have matched their voices when he was singing for them because Rafi had a divine voice. Just don't compare ok. It's all infront of your eyes all the facts. So what if SPB directed music. That is out of the topic here !!!. First of all you can't even spell Rafi's name right ??. Shows alot of your musical knowledge. And don't give crap like can Rafi sing Shankarabaranam. Can SPB sing all those classical songs that Rafi sang (Baiju Bawra or Naushad songs with ease )or can he pull as high as Rafi did. I don't think so !!. Make statements which you know don't show ignorance. Oh i'm sorry....YOU ARE AN IGNORANT PERSON ALREADY !!!. So what if you finished Carnatic music. You don't even know who has a good voice and who doesn't. I feel pity for you. ARE you STUPID or JUST DEAF. BLocked nose is out of the question !!. Just go back where you came from because you are making comments which are irrelevant and STUPID. RAfi has the best voice in India and he will continue to have the best voice in India to keep on inspiring people like SPB over and over again !!.
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