Topic started by SIVA (@ 203.195.184.205) on Thu Oct 2 05:03:36 EDT 2003.
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THE MOST AWAITED MAESTRO'S PITHMAGAN RELASED NY FIVE STAR AUDIOS Y'DAY.
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- From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.3.34)
on: Mon Dec 8 11:49:17 EST 2003
rendu naal leave potta, enna ellamo nadanthuduchu thread'la. thiripiyum willkku answer 'kudukka old responses'la oru 8 pakkam poga vendi irukku.
Will,
konjam chinna post panni iruntha sulabama irunthu irukum.ne way i agree with ur biased viewpoint towards the movie. naan kooda konjam appadithaan, enakku 'pidikka koodathunnu mudivu kattittu' oru movie parkka arambichaena athula irukura ottai mattum thaan theriyum.
MIL,
Good thought that Raja Work out a different Bgm for the movie and re release it. Regarding BGM a very interesting thing i noticed was the BGM which comes along the movie at the begginning, travels farther down the movie whenever Sithan appears on the screen. this BGM reflects the mood of a loner whos got nothing in life. the BGM comes to an end when the first affectionate note is striked betn Sithan and Sakthi. the scene where Sithan looks at sakthi beaten up starts with the same BGM and Our GR8 IR's beutifully rendered 'Yaarathu Yaarathu'ends that BGM. our maestro is genius indeed for that BGM is completely absent frm the movie after that and its only joyful and merrier BGM u got to hear after that. incidentaly the BGM comes again when sithan walks out of everybodys life indicating a cycle in the life of Sithan where once again he is a loner.....
this movie wud be perfect if MD's wud like to study the aspects of BGM creation and how it shud correlate with the mood/feeling of the movie.
- From: Will (@ 220.226.42.105)
on: Mon Dec 15 01:10:55 EST 2003
Sorry people, but I have become really busy now. I just managed to squeeze a short while to come here, but I am afraid I won't be here again for a long time. Hope you all understand. But, please do continue posting your replies, and I will definitely answer them one day, when I find the time.
Thank you one and all :D
- From: Will (@ 61.1.203.224)
on: Mon Dec 15 03:53:40 EST 2003
Okay, fine. I managed to get some more time. So, lemme answer your questions now...
- From: Will (@ 61.1.203.224)
on: Mon Dec 15 03:57:06 EST 2003
Rajasaranam wrote:
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Will,
konjam chinna post panni iruntha sulabama irunthu irukum.ne way i agree with ur biased viewpoint towards the movie. naan kooda konjam appadithaan, enakku 'pidikka koodathunnu mudivu kattittu' oru movie parkka arambichaena athula irukura ottai mattum thaan theriyum.
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Thanks Rajasaranam for revealing the truth about yourself. Thank you very much. But, do take a note that I am in no way like you. I never see a movie with 'any' expectations or with a pre-determined mindset. It's the movie, and the movie alone that makes me swing in either direction.
Also, let me tell you that I am NOT the type of person who makes a post, and then when somebody replies to them, is unable to back his own statements, and runs away with a lame excuse. You know who I am talking about don't you?
- From: Will (@ 61.1.203.224)
on: Mon Dec 15 03:58:10 EST 2003
Vatsa wrote:
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PM has violence and its rated "A". So its not for children or "weak hearted" adults. The same guys watch english movies with greater violence
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Well, Vatsa, it is not about "Violence" alone. It is "vulgarity". (see my eaaaarlier posts to Rajasaranam - some 3, 4 pages back). That which disturbs your psychosomatic health.
- From: Will (@ 61.1.203.224)
on: Mon Dec 15 04:00:27 EST 2003
Vatsa wrote:
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PM is more of series of incidents than a proper story which you expect . A movie need not have a story to be considered good. Moreover, Vikram hitting policemen is just an incident in the movie it does not glorify vikram, its just whats happening in real world
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A series of incidents making a film? Hmm... So, you will accept if you are just shown a woman walking up and down the street in the middle of the night, then shown her from behind with her head and upper body through the window of a car, then shown her naked (almost) in bed with a man who is thrashing her violently, then showing her cry, and then that man walks away throwing a 100 dollar note at her when he wears his coat back, and then shown that woman cry, and then her 5-year old daughter comes and grabs her naked body?
And, If you can depict whatever there is in the real world, you will accept if gang rapes of 40+ women and torturing underage (10 year old, say) girls?
No Offence Meant.
- From: Will (@ 61.1.203.224)
on: Mon Dec 15 04:01:50 EST 2003
Senty wrote:
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will,
"Yes, Illayaraja and Kamal deserve it 'cause they had achieved something. How much do you say had Bala achieved with his three films, compared to the other two people who you set on par with Bala? "
you are saying this now.you wouldn't have told this when kamal was young and cocky.kamal lost lot of fan's ,and rajini gained a lot of them, because of the so called humbleness.A boost to your ego that this talent person still respects you.bala has certainly not acheived anything compared to the 2.for a change please read other's post also clearly. what i told was he get's every credit for PM.He has given a honest movie,which stands out from big budget, hi-tech gizmo's, newspaper headline stories and illusionary effect.He deserves all the credit for PM and he SHOULD be cocky about it.
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And, did I say that I "accepted" all the time when Kamal would have spoken like that? Kamal would have lost a lot of fans at that time because of his heavy-headedness and that is pretty much reasonable. What I meant was, if Kamal Hasan talks like that NOW, then, there is absolutely no need to critisize it. But, Bala, just after making 3 movies talks like that, then, I dunno what to say!
Fine, every Director gets credit for what he/she has directed. But, why have people say that he is the "most perfect" and things like that?
- From: Will (@ 61.1.203.224)
on: Mon Dec 15 04:03:49 EST 2003
Senty wrote:
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Why talk sidebar about things that has got nothing to do with the movie.why write a side bar about self escalation of director bala, drinking habits of light man ramasamy, or the spirituality of producer durai??.How the movie has been made has got nothing to do with the people involved in the movie or how they express themselves.
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Ha! Well, sidebars are the place for authors to place information partly relevant to the subject under discussion. This is done to leave the choice to the readers to whether to read that "partly relevant" information or not. But, I am saying it again, I have stated my reasons for not liking that movie completely seperate.
- From: Will (@ 61.1.203.224)
on: Mon Dec 15 04:04:42 EST 2003
Senty wrote:
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*Is this because of the lack of "class" that you can see in some movies of ManiRathnam being evidently absent in Bala's? *
Explain me CLASS...
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Ha Ha Ha! Here comes the funny part. What I meant by that reply of mine was SARCASTIC. It was no way meant to be of any meaning. 'Cause I myself don't know what it is, and, it only serves as a blank for that person to fill in. Meaning, I am asking why he said so without giving any reasons. You get it?
And, if you still don't, how about taking an English CLASS? .... :D
- From: Will (@ 61.1.203.224)
on: Mon Dec 15 04:06:49 EST 2003
Vatsa wrote:
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I dont think any politician (in this case it depicts karunanidhi) who speaks in pure tamil, recites poem most of the time dont you feel its crap, even in his house with his wife. Also, the dialogues were childish (suhasini has done a great job an .....
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So how did Barathiyaar speak to his wife? Of course he is not a politician, but, then, he lived just one generation before! So, why couldn't there be someone like that? But, well, I am not into arguing and justifying the mistakes of Directors. Of course, everybody makes mistakes. Even the most widely read book (in recent times) "Harry Potter" series have loads of mistakes. So, I am not comparing the mistakes of Bala with others, but questioning his attitude. Of trying to make the spectators/audience feel miserable, Deliberately inducing dark sequences, etc. (playing with emotions).
- From: Will (@ 61.1.203.224)
on: Mon Dec 15 04:09:00 EST 2003
MusicIsLife wrote:
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1. First of all everybody wants to explain everything.. but i think this shows Bala's brilliance of touching a character to the level he wants on the screen and leave it to the viewers imagination I think that is a gr8 novelty.
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You think it is innovation? But, I think it is incapacity.
- From: Will (@ 61.1.203.224)
on: Mon Dec 15 04:10:04 EST 2003
Chandler wrote:
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sangameshwar and musicforlife,
I agree pithamagan is a good film but certainly not a great film...
The tragic climax is just to showcase the acting skills of the two actors..and it doesnt add to the quality of the film at all.. I feel he was trying to manipulate the emotions of the audience..if u see his previous films, one can understand that ...morbid feeling through out the film....create some happy moments where auidence can enjoy and cut short the enjoyment by a tragedy...I dont blame him for this style but all directors do that..
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That was a nice post, Chandler. I agree very much with you. It sounds perfectly true to me. Happy to see there is one more person who sees through Bala.
- From: Will (@ 61.1.203.224)
on: Mon Dec 15 04:11:33 EST 2003
Sangameshwar wrote:
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ppl nowadays have a conception that if the movie is morbid, it is a 'class' movie.. and the movie would be discussed for "OSCARS" !!!!!
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And, that is exactly what I was thinking about.
Yes, people sort of think like this and so they feel no Charlie Chaplin films are classy ones. Because they are comedy films!
And, people start thinking or start feeling better about themselves, because they have started thinking that a movie which is "terrible" to some people are "classy" ones to them!
And, I think Bala had sort of figured this out, and have tried to use this technique (just depict some harsh thing that happens in the real world in the screen and NOT imagine anything at all or do some good intelligent screenplays) to get the name of a "good" director! Ha!
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