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Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
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• From: dr.sk (@ 61.1.207.129) on: Mon Dec 18 16:31:10 EST 2000
  
  hallo Amirtha, the song 'Malaikkoilvasalile karthigai deepamminnuthe, fromVeera had been set
  in Asaaveri- You can compare this song with old
  song 'Ohohounga ponnana kaikal punnagalama'from
  Kadhalikka neramillai' MD Msv!
  Alsothe song Kodiyile mallikaippoo' from Kadalora
  kavithaigal is also set in Asaaveri.
  Re the song in Punnagaimannan 'Ethetho ennam valarthen'is set in Sankarabharanam scale and not
  in Pahadi as I had initially said (Kindly excuse
  me for the error- by oversight. Alsothesong from
  Amarkalam is also set in the same scale -kindly
  pardon me for this mistake!
  Actually the song 'ethetho ennam valarthen from
  p.mannan is setin Pahadi!
  
  
• From: RR (@ 192.122.134.138) on: Mon Dec 18 23:35:11 EST 2000
  
  Naveen and Swamiji,
  There ARE carnatic ragas taking more than 7 swaras. Some versions of kapi, sindhu bairavi actually take all 12 swaras (esp. kapi).
  Give me sometime to locate the ragas corresponding to your blues scales.
  
  
• From: sindhuja (@ 203.197.176.1) on: Tue Dec 19 07:42:56 EST 2000
  
  dr.sk,
  It's totally confusing-1st of all , in your previous posting you had talked about "vaan megam" and not "ethotho..."And in your latest posting(kindly read it again)you have said in the 8th line that "ethotho.."is not in pahadi.In the last line you have said that it is in pahadi--????
  
  
• From: Naveen (@ 204.255.14.188) on: Tue Dec 19 11:52:51 EST 2000
  
  Swamiji, RR,
  
  you'll like this
  
  http://www-math.cudenver.edu/~jstarret/microtone.html
  
  check this site too..
  http://www.bikexprt.com/music/notation.htm
  
  Naveen
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Tue Dec 19 12:03:49 EST 2000
  
  hi naveen,
  
  thanks a lot for these links. they are really good.
  
  
• From: Naveen Jebaraj (@ 204.255.14.188) on: Tue Dec 19 12:40:24 EST 2000
  
  Arul,
  
  There is a lot of Mathematics involved behind music. if you assume middle 'C' as 256Hz, then the next octave 'C' will be 512Hz which is twice the middle C's frequency. The distance between any semitone in terms of frequency is
  12th root of 2 which is 1.05946 approx. The number 12 has come into picture because we have broken one octave into 12 equal parts.
  So if you want to find out the frequency of D note, multiply 256 by (1.05946 to the power of 2) and frequency of Bb is (256 * (1.05946 ^ 10)) and so on..
  
  apply the same logic for microtones.
  
  Naveen
  
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Tue Dec 19 13:05:52 EST 2000
  
  naveen,
  
  :-))). i personally don't like the equitempered calculations :-). i honestly believe that people can distinguish between these "artificial" notes and the "natural" harmonics (sometimes, even i could!! :-)) ). anyways,the links you gave make interesting reading and listening.
  
  you might like the following links too.
  
  http://www.justonic.com/default3.htm ,
  
  i really like what gerald eskelin is doing (refer the link given).
  
  
• From: Naveen (@ 204.255.14.188) on: Tue Dec 19 13:08:02 EST 2000
  
  if s is 'C'
  
  am I right?
  
  r1 is Db
  r2 is D
  g1 is Eb
  g2 is E
  m1 is F
  m2 is F#
  p2 is G
  d1 is Ab
  d2 is A
  n1 is Bb
  n2 is B
  s is C (octave)
  
  please correct me if I'm wrong. Here after I'll write in terms of carnatic s, re, ga ma too.
  
  Naveen
  
  
• From: Naveen (@ ) on: Tue Dec 19 13:15:53 EST 2000
  
  aruL,
  
  Luckily I don't have a sound card at work! microtone concept was interesting but thank God I did'nt listen to any samples! :)
  
  Naveen
  
  
• From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Tue Dec 19 14:13:26 EST 2000
  
  Thanks for those cool links naveen, but I guess we need to post these in a different thread maybe? Can we start a permanenet thread to post all links related to music/learning?
  
  
• From: dr.sk (@ 61.1.207.140) on: Tue Dec 19 14:35:20 EST 2000
  
  hallo Sindhuja, Thankyou very much for pointing out the mistake I had committed inthe text.As a person using i-net from remote place(Mayiladuthurai in Tanjore dt) my accessibility to
  i-net is not so easy as you people are accessing
  i-net very much freely-I encounter lot of problems
  in connectivity,hence reply from me is very much
  freak/or by chance.Hence my postings are made as
  soon as I get connected- Due to paucity of time
  sometimes I commit certain mistakes.
  Kindly take this corrected postings: 'Vaan megam'
  from P.Mannan is set in Sankarabharanam-also the
  Amarkalam song is also in the same scale.Only the song'Ethetho ennam valarthen' fromP.mannan set in Pahadi! Once again kindly exuse me for the confusion caused by my wrong posting inadverdently
  made.Thanx
  
  
• From: Naveen (@ 204.255.14.188) on: Tue Dec 19 14:43:51 EST 2000
  
  Swamiji,
  
  Thats a good idea. I too do not want to disturb anyone who discuss about ragas.
  
  Naveen
  
  
• From: Rajesh (@ 199.168.32.7) on: Tue Dec 19 15:06:46 EST 2000
  
  Dr Sk,
  
  Thanks for taking too much pain to explain things. btw, what about 'Poovukul olinthirukum' from Jeans. Is that Sankarabharanam ?
  
  Can you gimme the raga for Pahadi ?
  
  
• From: Rajesh (@ 199.168.32.5) on: Tue Dec 19 15:06:56 EST 2000
  
  Dr Sk,
  
  Thanks for taking too much pain to explain things. btw, what about 'Poovukul olinthirukum' from Jeans. Is that Sankarabharanam ?
  
  Can you gimme the swaras for Pahadi ?
  
  
• From: Vijaykumar.B (@ 203.197.138.200) on: Wed Dec 27 01:28:38 EST 2000
  
  Hello all,
  I need one help regarding the difference between MIDI and Karoake. I have a stereo set at home which is having provisions for both. But i am not able to understand how it works and how we can use it for singing. Also i want to know the difference between the two. If anybody can help me in this regard please do the needful.
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.222.2) on: Wed Dec 27 16:26:49 EST 2000
  
  Vijaykumar:
  
  Get a microphone and insert the lead of the microphone to the karaoke socket. You can play a cd or cassette and sing in the mic along with the song.
  
  
• From: haris (@ 205.227.43.13) on: Fri Dec 29 15:03:35 EST 2000
  
  Is the song 'chikkAna chittonnu kaiyil vandhA , chikkunnu pAttu varum' from sEthu in chalanattai?
  
  
• From: Naveen (@ 152.163.204.183) on: Sat Dec 30 15:28:28 EST 2000
  
  RR,
  
  What is this raga? (A, B, C#, D, E, F, G, A)
  
  Naveen
  
  
• From: RR (@ 192.122.134.139) on: Sat Dec 30 22:04:41 EST 2000
  
  Naveen: It's charukesi
  
  
• From: Naveen (@ 152.163.204.49) on: Sun Dec 31 09:49:08 EST 2000
  
  thanks RR.
  
  
• From: prasad (@ 202.86.166.17) on: Wed Jan 3 10:21:52 EST 2001
  
  hai
  please tell me the raaga of the song " sangathil paadaatha kavidhai" from the film " Auto Raaja"
  released in 1982
  music Ilayaraaja
  singers : IR and S janaki
  
  thanx
  please sollidunga ennaku thalai vedichidum poola irriku.
  please sir please
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.222.2) on: Wed Jan 3 10:59:09 EST 2001
  
  Prasad:
  
  It sounds like kapi
  
  
• From: IR (@ 38.220.167.197) on: Wed Jan 3 11:01:20 EST 2001
  
  Ms - song link podu
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.222.2) on: Wed Jan 3 12:34:44 EST 2001
  
  IR:
  
  unfortunately, there is no link :-(
  
  
• From: Vidhya (@ 206.216.1.3) on: Wed Jan 3 12:49:22 EST 2001
  
  Prasad, MS: "Sangathil" is an excellent sample of IR's song in "kaapi".
  
  
• From: haris (@ 205.227.43.12) on: Wed Jan 3 13:00:26 EST 2001
  
  anybody had time to hear 'sikkadha sittonru' from sethu ? is it chala nattai?
  
  http://songs.swaramalika.com/cgi-bin/media/search.cgi?lang=tamil&film=Sethu&exact=1
  
  
• From: Naveen (@ 204.255.14.188) on: Wed Jan 3 13:07:46 EST 2001
  
  Vidhya or RR,
  
  what are the set of notes kaapi contains?
  
  Naveen
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Wed Jan 3 14:22:08 EST 2001
  
  naveen,
  
  here is link you would enjoy. let me give you a caution tho'. most people knowledgeable in carnatic music, either really don't know why carnatic music is so good or they don't know how to explain things. so here, as with every other webpage or book, you will find enormous listing without any real "description" or explanation, but i think it's a good start!
  
  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/8424/carnatic/ragas.html . enjoy!
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Wed Jan 3 14:51:37 EST 2001
  
  hi naveen,
  
  here is a better page but the list doesnot include kApi. (also, there is a problem with a notation. i will send you an email later.) this page gives at least the common sanchArams (phrases) of the raagams listed.
  
  http://www.rit.edu/~pnveme/ragaindex.html . enjoy.
  
  
• From: Naveen (@ 204.255.14.188) on: Wed Jan 3 15:07:37 EST 2001
  
  hihi,
  
  good one. I'll go thro the list of ragas one by one.
  
  Thanx,
  Naveen
  
  
• From: prasad (@ 202.86.166.17) on: Thu Jan 4 11:41:37 EST 2001
  
  hai
  
  my first opinion about the song " sangathil " was that it is Kaapi. but dosen't it come close the Vasandhi(!!?//!!?!). Excuse me if i am absolutly wrong. some raw mango idiot also confirmed that it was Vaasandhi. solpaa think maadi.
  
  
• From: haris. (@ 205.227.43.13) on: Fri Jan 5 21:59:36 EST 2001
  
  Is the song 'siriya paravai ulagai rasikka ' from andha oru nimidam in charukesi? atleast the 2nd carnatic based interlude is i think in charukesi.
  http://songs.swaramalika.com/cgi-bin/media/search.cgi?lang=tamil&film=Andha+Oru+Nimidam&exact=1
  
  

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