Topic started by Isai Kadavul Bakthar (@ 63.208.66.53) on Mon Feb 4 04:13:50 EST 2002.
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Please listen to the following songs again and again and you will clearly understand the depths, breadth and heights to which Ilayaraja has gone like no other creative genius has. This is a real lesson in the most exceptional and complex of musical composition delivered just simply like that by IR for the ordinary listener:
Chandirarum Suriyanum by IR in AVADHARAM (find one like this in the next galaxy if anyone can)
Kannalen Kaadhal by KJY & SJY in Aathma
Kai veesum Thamarai by SPB & SJ in Kanni Rasi
Nilavu Onru Kanden - as above
Yen Kanavina Kellu by Hariharan in Desiya Geetham
The Dance duet in Raasayya (absolutely stunning)
Nandavanthil by SPB in Annai Oru Aalayam
Sembaruthi Poove by Mano & Sunandha in Sembaruthi
Nila Kaayum Neram Saranam by SPB & Sunandah in Sembaruthi
O Nenjame by SJ & DChakravarthi in Enakaha Kaathiru
Yengum Niraindha KJY & SJ in Idhu Eppadi Irukku
Vellin Nilave SPB & UR in Nandavan Theru
and, I am telling you this is just touching the surface, but these compositions require a lot of listening to know that evey other composer, band or group or act or whatever or anybody is just a speck of dust in the shore that of IR's ocean of music! Anyone can challenge me with any song of any other composer of this earth and tell me if I am wrong.
Long Live the Avataram of Ilayaraja
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- From: Srivatsan (@ 61.1.202.243)
on: Sat Apr 3 12:32:43 EST 2004
Ravi: That is a song that one can keep listening to forever! the Second interlude - it is not 'the' but THE second interlude!!!
what about his bass work in Ennama kannu from Mr. Bharath??
- From: MADDY (@ 203.94.234.89)
on: Sat Apr 3 13:42:05 EST 2004
another buffoon is this isai kadavul bakthar.......
- From: Tj (@ 69.192.8.242)
on: Sat Apr 3 14:09:31 EST 2004
hey guy i found this song DR.Ilayaraja and The black eye peas they used a old song of his and it sounds really good i uploaded it on http://www.2ktamil.cjb.net u can download it there.
- From: Anand (@ )
on: Fri Nov 19 14:06:30 EST 2004
Ilayaraaja according to me is one of the geniuses that the last century had gifted us. We must all be extremely gifted as well to have the luxury of listening to this ISAI BRAHMAs artistic creations. All his creations during 80's were then one generation ahead and are even now one generation ahead. For example, the song senorita i love you from Jhonny. It is a song that we all would like to hear again and again endlessly and it never creates a bore dom in you. Same is the case with songs like En vanile ore vennila from Jhonny and songs from the films like avadharam.
While reading some of the previous comments in the forum, some one commented about the song "Unna vida " from virumandi that this song cannot be dreamt on a day light environment. It was a song meant to be for the night lit with the Moon. What a beautiful description and kudos to that person who had such great thoughts. Ilayaraja's songs give you a sense of continuity and flow that you cannot find with other music directors. Accepted that ARR has his own talents. He has perfected fusion. A fantastic feat indeed, but barring a few songs, can we listen to ARRs songs again and again relentlessly. Sometimes these songs give you a ear sore. Same is not the case with IRs songs. IR undoubtedly is the music genius of all times. Its sad that he did not get the due credit that he has to get from the music community all over India.
- From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.32.200)
on: Fri Nov 19 14:19:35 EST 2004
Anand:
"Its sad that he did not get the due credit that he has to get from the music community all over India."
It happened bcoz majority of IR's tunes have this tamil touch and is not at all suitable for Northern audience. Whereas in whichever language he tried, ARR's songs definitely blends with the culture and you dont feel like you are listening to the work of a South Indian.
- From: dinesh (@ 60.48.84.83)
on: Fri Nov 19 14:35:38 EST 2004
my dear,with ur thread it self prove ur IR is nothing,out of 4000 songs he composed,u mention only 12,with that u call him the great????joke da,good joke!
- From: Vazhipokkan (@ 40.0.40.10)
on: Fri Nov 19 14:53:46 EST 2004
when ARR doesn't have one to mention IR with 12 seems higher don't u think! Next Mani Ratnam venture has Harris jeyaraj music ..cry baby cry
- From: cho (@ 209.47.143.226)
on: Fri Nov 19 15:19:55 EST 2004
dinesh, so you DO know that IR composed 4000 songs??? joke da, great joke :)
Atthana paattayum list poatta newtfmpage coredump adikkum!! IKB was convinced with these 12 songs.. if you ask another IR fan he would produce a list that's totally different from this one...The list is endless..Got it?
- From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.32.200)
on: Sat Nov 20 11:15:37 EST 2004
Vazhipokkan:
"Next Mani Ratnam venture has Harris jeyaraj music"
Sorry Vazhipokkan, these kinds of rumours always pop up. Unless found in an authentic source, no one is going to believe these.
- From: dinesh (@ 218.111.17.54)
on: Sat Nov 20 12:21:26 EST 2004
hahaha,cho,i dare u to list me the so called great score from IR,as i nkow,with 10 diff beats,1 of them beeing the famouse 'dandanaka',he creats atleast few 100s songs with the same backing,ohh god,its like so borring..goodness,ur killin ur self by listenin to his songs..gosh!!
- From: Note Man (@ 35.9.26.160)
on: Sat Nov 20 14:56:45 EST 2004
dinesh... nice to see that you have listened to atleast a few 100 songs of IR. Too bad you couldn't appreciate them much. Lot of us get so stuck listening to so few songs, that we have a tough time trying to cover all the songs.
- From: cho (@ 209.47.143.226)
on: Sat Nov 20 20:27:30 EST 2004
dinesh,
I can produce a list in no time... but you need to have some taste in music... I can talk to someone about the prelude of the 'aanandha raagam...' song from panner pushpangal or the way IR composed sangeetha jadhi mullai, or His brilliant use of western notes in 'eatho mogam song from kozhi koovudhu for hours and even days..... But what's the point in having a conversation with you if your brain is all fogged up? You should have realized by now that you have become a such a big joker. I know where you come from... and I have seen people like you in the past...It's mere waste of time to talk about a genius to someone who is musically so ignorant..In way it's an insult to that genius. So my advice to you is that you listen to whatever you like but just keep it yourself bcos the more you talk, the more you expose your ignorance and once day when you realized it, you may even hate yourself that would be really sad..
- From: Guess Me (@ 202.83.32.200)
on: Sat Nov 20 23:43:31 EST 2004
cho:
"the more you talk, the more you expose your ignorance"
Very true cho. There are some dumb-heads here who try to prove a particular tfm composer is the best the world has seen in Past, Present & Future. They dont know that it only shows their ignorance in any thing other than tamil film music.
- From: cho (@ 209.47.143.226)
on: Sun Nov 21 00:37:35 EST 2004
Well, it shows their ignorance in anything other than tamil film music.. True. Atleast you agree that they are not ignorant about tamil film music. After all it's newtfmpage.com and I guess it does have some relevance.
- From: hhhw (@ 130.127.104.24)
on: Sun Nov 21 01:01:34 EST 2004
dinesh has visited 100s of ARR sites but still cant spell "famous" correctly. This means that no ARR site thinks he's famous :)
- From: srimurugan krishnan (@ 210.186.159.73)
on: Sun Nov 21 01:57:31 EST 2004
dr isaingani illayaraaja does not get credits for best his composition in heyram( the first tamil film in symphony),sethu ,ramana,virumandi,thalapabthi,guna , aathma ,alaghi and so on.As dr illayaraaja said he is not compose music to just earn pocket money like other musicians. he said music his his soul, breath and not something for business.From those days till now we indians and also tamilians will never get credits from our own people.If our people the directors and producers recognise dr illayaraaja also can be like the other musician goes apart from india.But illayaraaja never give the priority for money and any outside influences.For that i really even the god of music also hats off and salute to dr maestro illayaraaja.If the directors like maniratnam and lyricts vairamuthu never give the priority to money and respect the value dr isaingani he aslo now in international market.It is only certain people just bcos of their egoism bring give chances to different music directors.Vairamuthu is really money minded person.At this time i keyed in thies words i m listerning to heyram"s "nee paartha paarvaikku nandri" song what tremendous scoring of this great indian composer.To me dr isaingani is not a musician who is producing music like certain musician.Dr isaingani is a composer and not a musician.He composed and creates notes for musics.I request dr isaingani illayaraaja please sir stay as this we still the real music lovers is standing beside you to protect and support you. We still wants your fantastic scoring and composition of music.For me the only person can give such beautiful carnatic songs and western song in tamil cenema is none other than dr isaingani illayaraaja.I can swear that no other person can do like composed , mixing of raagas and keerthanas , the arangement and settings of instruments than the great indian illayaraaja.thanks
- From: IIIII (@ 203.101.39.75)
on: Sat Nov 27 00:53:23 EST 2004
Dinesh , You hear all of those 4000 songs you told about. And still you wont or cant accept IR as great. Its like that. You can never get the sweetness of the songs as like you can never get that 'katpura vasam"
- From: IIIII (@ 203.101.39.75)
on: Sat Nov 27 00:58:15 EST 2004
""""hahaha,cho,i dare u to list me the so called great score from IR,as i nkow,with 10 diff beats,1 of them beeing the famouse 'dandanaka',he creats atleast few 100s songs with the same backing,ohh god,its like so borring..goodness,ur killin ur self by listenin to his songs..gosh!!""""
Hey whats wrong in that 'dandanaka"?????
whether you like it or not you are difinetly going to hear it on your jouney to gravey yard! Atleast enjoy then!
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