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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

1.Vedha:i know he always go for a hindi tune in his films(mostly for Modern theatres).No alterations! he just copy a full hindi song !

best examble:Manam ennum medai mele(Gil tho ye kulu yahag)

2.MSV: i hear that(from Sujatha's book"Neerkumiligal") "thulluvatho elamai" was a song copied from english to almost all famous indian langages.Is there any other songs MSV copied?

3.Illayaraja:Even the GOD of MUSIC Raja sir did some thing like this.He just used that "I love you"style from BOneyM Sunny for "darling darling"in priya.I have heard a totally same song like "Kanavu kanum valkkai yavum" in Hindi also.(i forgot the film).

and i dont know who is the MD for the song"ehu pal vadiyum mugam! ethai parpathu than sugam".But i heard the same song in an english film.

4.ARR : i was told from my friends that he did copying intelligently.drum beats and some music styels from cassettes like "enigma,ace of base".And the humming before the song "thillana thillana" is a 100%copy from the film"the island of Dr.Mozeru".

5.SA Rajkumar : a lot of help from hindi! best example "mallikai puve malligai puve parthaya" from "didi tera thevaru thevana"

5.DEVA:hee..hee..the master.(better we see how many songs he did on his own instead of seeing how many songs he copied!)

like wise there is a lot of songs are copied from Tamil to Hindi also..

Now its your turn friends....

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• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9) on: Mon Jun 19 15:06:51 EDT 2000
  
  Bug:
  
  sorry, forgot to add: My claim was for "yEthO oru paattu en kaathil kEtkum".
  
  
• From: haris (@ inet-fw1-o.oracle.com) on: Mon Jun 19 23:23:34 EDT 2000
  
  Visit uthamil.com and take the route, www.muthamil.com-->isai-->inspirations,
  scroll down to ilayaraja's part
  and listen to 'Chittu Kuruvi Vetkapaduthu.' and its original source given along-side 'From the New World' by Antonin Dovrak.
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9) on: Tue Jun 20 00:33:03 EDT 2000
  
  haris:
  
  The info that site has, is from this forum only. Nothing new is revealed there.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221) on: Tue Jun 20 01:30:09 EDT 2000
  
  bb,rajaG and srikanth,
  what has happened to the copied songs site that everyone was talking about so excitedly till a few days back?
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ 208.24.179.211) on: Tue Jun 20 12:15:09 EDT 2000
  
  vijay: the ball is in bb's court! I am still very gung ho about it. We need to start collecting the 'electronic files' of originals and 'alleged duplicates' in a disciplined manner.
  
  bb: your thoughts please!
  
  
• From: bb (@ grieg.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Tue Jun 20 12:18:24 EDT 2000
  
  yes, vijay sent me the files asking me to do it.. i was pretty busy and that's why there is no progress. i will put up the page soon.. poruththaruLga:-)
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221) on: Tue Jun 20 13:25:44 EDT 2000
  
  bb,
  thanx for the reply. there is already another site www.muthamil.com for copied songs and i suspect that they have been primarily using songs that have been listed in this thread. so its time to get going with our own site. after all it was our idea and lets do something about it.
  
  iam ready to send more files once the site is up.
  thanx;))
  
  
• From: Dev Mannemela (@ prxy-01.softimage.com) on: Wed Jun 21 18:38:30 EDT 2000
  
  Has this one been noted before ?
  
  I saw Kushi the other day.
  One song ( 'penn paarthen.. centimeter sirippu..etc..') starts with 'all that she wants' beats. Not just the beats the starting sounds are all
  note for note..
  
  And the 'laalaalu laalalu' chorus is lifted from a song from the telugu movie 'Paatala Bhairavi' (there is a tamil version too, I think)
  
  That disgusting 'paapooo paapoo' stuff from the same song must definitely original.
  
  
• From: jdd (@ 38.23.1.248) on: Thu Jun 22 16:27:34 EDT 2000
  
  Can anyone tell if the following song is a lift from English OR Hindi?
  O Megame odum megame enge en radha nee ange sellu
  sung by SPB.
  I think, the score is by SG or Shyam
  
  
• From: Manix (@ 1cust125.tnt1.fort-lauderdale.fl.da.uu.net) on: Sun Jun 25 10:47:21 EDT 2000
  
  I am not sure ff anyone even listened to Deva's recent album Ooty:)...Well, the first song in the movie has this 'ooooooo' humming in between the song and that's lifted from a song of the long-lost group 'Color Me Badd'.
  Check it out...
  
  http://www.cheap-cds.com/surf/disps/076358
  
  Click on the song 'I wanna sex you up'
  
  
• From: Ashok (@ coswebproxy1.core.hp.com) on: Tue Jun 27 17:50:12 EDT 2000
  
  Hi,
  
  Most of Deva's songs are copied only. That too, in the recent times, he is taking the actual songs. For example , In Avvai Shamugi the first song "Velai Velai" is taken from a spanish song. He is not even bothered to change the tune somewhere expect that word "Avvai Shanmugi". I think these people should be taken into account, before these directors start talking to public about copyrights.
  
  Ashok
  
  
• From: Jee (@ 193.188.124.140) on: Thu Jun 29 02:30:01 EDT 2000
  
  "mEgam karukkuthu " tune from Kushi is looking very similar to "mEgam konduva meththai pottu vai" from vaali
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ fw.baan.nl) on: Thu Jun 29 03:30:21 EDT 2000
  
  Jee.,
  You are right., The first part sounds like that.,
  Also the second part of the Pallavi (Anupallavi ?) is 90% similar to Taal's 'Taal se Taal Mila' song.,
  NagaS
  
  
• From: V (@ wwwgate2.motorola.com) on: Thu Jun 29 03:37:24 EDT 2000
  
  all said, that number is too good.
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ fw.baan.nl) on: Thu Jun 29 08:24:31 EDT 2000
  
  V.,
  I agree that song is good. But this is the place most of us do the mistake of encouraging a COPY.
  The number may be good., But I am never going to give the credit to that cheap guy who just did some cut-n-paste and calls it as his work. NEVER.
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Bala (@ erchg00x.nortelnetworks.com) on: Thu Jun 29 15:27:23 EDT 2000
  
  Did anyone listen to the original of "keechu kiliyae"?I was speechless after I heard it.This is copying at its pinnacle.Probably it is time I became a music director and start making some quick bucks I guess
  
  
• From: e.hari (@ webproxy06qfe0.sbi.com) on: Thu Jun 29 16:16:25 EDT 2000
  
  bala,
  
  what is the original?
  
  
  
• From: e.hari (@ webproxy06qfe0.sbi.com) on: Thu Jun 29 16:16:37 EDT 2000
  
  bala,
  
  what is the orignial song?
  
  
  
• From: Bala (@ erchg00x.nortelnetworks.com) on: Thu Jun 29 16:24:53 EDT 2000
  
  Hari
  The original is "enemies" by Dr.alban.The clip can be found in

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• From: Bala (@ erchg00x.nortelnetworks.com) on: Thu Jun 29 16:25:35 EDT 2000
  
  Oops...It can be found in www.muthamil.com
  
  
• From: Bug (@ goliath5.primary-server.net) on: Thu Jun 29 17:01:37 EDT 2000
  
  folks,
  there is a song by Deva in some Vijaykanth movie...where he flicked the tune of "aasayila paathi kati naathu onnnu...." guess it is Ramarajan's movie by IR.
  
  can anyone clarify both the song and the movie names?
  
  Anbudan
  Bug
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ ppp11.honovi.net) on: Sun Jul 2 21:56:25 EDT 2000
  
  Was watching 'jo jita wohi sikander'. SARajkumars
  'oru devathai vandhu vittaL'(nee varuvai ene) is a photocopy
  of 'mujhe samjhe naa'(music Jatin- Lalit)
  
  
• From: Kuzapams (@ 203.106.108.17) on: Mon Jul 3 02:57:56 EDT 2000
  
  Listened to a new song " Aanandham aanandham pongum veedu" sung by UK and Sujatha. Sounds very similar to a Hamsalekha's Kannada number in the film Ramaachaari( Chinna thambi) ditto. Now Hamsalekha himself works with limited number of tunes. If this guy (dont know who it is) is suttufying that too......
  
  
• From: KP (@ 202.9.177.149) on: Tue Jul 4 02:20:32 EDT 2000
  
  Recently GA mentioned in RAJ TV that ponmanai thedi nan poovodu vandhen was copied from paattukku paatteduththen of some old MGR movie.
  
  
• From: satish (@ 139.85.161.162) on: Wed Jul 5 16:11:03 EDT 2000
  
  bug
  
  the song is
  "aasiyile pathi katti nathu onnu nattu vechen naa povaayi" from the movie " enga ooru kavalkaran
  music ofcourse IR
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.216) on: Wed Jul 5 23:32:26 EDT 2000
  
  satish!
  bug asked about the details of the copied no.:-)
  
  I think the Deva song goes sth like...`.....sethi sonna mannavaru dhAn......mannavaru mannavaru dhAn...' (It had also incorporated the `siththeRumbu' rhythm!)
  
  
• From: Manix (@ 1cust82.tnt17.fort-lauderdale.fl.da.uu.net) on: Wed Jul 5 23:52:47 EDT 2000
  
  Eden:
  I keep forgetting the first line of the song too! (I think it has something to do with "sOru", "thanni").The movie's name is Karupppu Nila, isn't it?
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ fw.baan.nl) on: Thu Jul 6 01:13:23 EDT 2000
  
  Eden.,
  I think The song you are mentioning is 'Aadiyila sethi solli aavaNiyil ....'(Some crap after that ;-) It is from a vijaykanth Movie., Forgot the name. R Sunder rajan is the director and it is one of the biggest hits of deva till date. 'Raasithaan Kai rasithaan., 'nnu oru nalla paattu irukku antha padaththil. Donno what is the source for that song ;-)
  NagaS
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9) on: Thu Jul 6 01:28:16 EDT 2000
  
  NagaS:
  
  I think the movie is "en aasai machchaan". another good song is " karuppu nilaa nee thaan kalanguvathen"
  
  
• From: Jee (@ 193.188.124.140) on: Thu Jul 6 01:37:54 EDT 2000
  
  NagaS,
  you are right. The full first line is
  
  "Aadiyila sethi solli aavanilyil theydhi vechchu sethi sonna mannavaru thaan" - Movie "En Aasai Machchan"
  
  original - Enga ooru "some"Kaaran
  
  "Aasayila paaththi katti naaththu onnu nattu vechchen naaaaan poovayi"
  
  You can sing the lyrics for those 2 songs in both tunes, no jerks. Simply copied. And the 1st saranam is a copy from Valter Vetrivel "chinna raasave siththerumbu".
  
  If you tell this means, HC deva fans will tell, Our music director has used carnatic raga in that stanza. Yr IR is also used the same raga. So only this similarity. Or Deva got inspired by Lathangi (or other raga ???) as well as with Raaja's "Chinna raasave" and tuned that song.
  
  And also, this Ranjit Barot (I think he is the MD for Vaali). Blatantly lifted "Suzanna" for "O sona". All TFMDs are copiers no. 1.
  
  Some day or other, Xerox company will release clones of Tamil MDs instead of their own copier products. Ofcourse, they do better copying than others.
  
  
• From: KITKAT (@ pm-82-231.tm.net.my) on: Thu Jul 6 02:37:33 EDT 2000
  
  Vaali is of course by Deva Jee.
  
  

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