Topic started by Kanchana (@ ww-tp05.proxy.aol.com) on Sun Apr 19 11:41:09 EDT 1998.
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TFM boasts of several contemporary poets like Bharadhidhasan, Pattukkottai Kalyanasundaram, Kannadhasan and Vali (Version I) who penned several songs dealing with social issues such as work ethic (uzhaippu), labor rights, women's position in society, religion, caste, patriotism/ nationalism, money/power/greed and the such. In addition, non-film kavidhaigaL from Bharadhi and Bharadhidhasan have been included in TFM to heighten social awareness.
Let's go ahead and discuss some of these songs--old and new--which address some key social issues even as they were entertaining the masses in the context of the movie situation. Please elaborate on the lyrics and your thoughts on the same as your time would allow.
Responses:
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- From: Sathya (@ ppp-11.ts-8.hp.idt.net)
on: Thu Apr 23 23:04:22 EDT 1998
Kanchana:
neengaL sonnathu muRRilum sariyE.
Bharathiyin paadalkaLil irukkum ezuchchiyum, vEgamum, uyir thudippum, kavithaiyum, kaathalum, Anmaavin kuralum vERu enthap paadalilum irukka saaththiyamillai. ithu naam anaivarum aRintha uNmai.
Bharathi oru theyvak kavi.
"solldi sivasakthi! - enaich
chudar mikum aRivudan padaiththu vittaay!
vallamai thaaraayO; - intha
maanilam payanuRa vaazvathaRkE?
thasaiyinaith thIchchudinum - siva
sakthiyaip paadu nal akam kEttEn,
asaivaRu mathi kEttEn; - ivai
aruLvathil unakkthum thadaiyuLathO?"
enRu Parasakthiyai vENdi, aruL peRRa theyvakkavi.
avar enna seythaar enbathai eppadi solkiRaar paarungaLEn!
"namakkuth thozil kavithai, naattiRkuzaiththal;
imaip pozuthum sOraathiruththal"
avar appadiyE vaaznthaar.
"seyyum kavithai paraasakthiyaalE seyappadum kaaN" enkiRaar Bharathi. athuthaan uNmai. Bharathiyin paadalkaL annai Parasakthiyin paadalkaL. Bharathiyin paadalkaL namakku ERpadum thaakkaththaiyum, uLLuNarvukaLaiyum vERethuvum uNdaakka mudiyaathu.
Bharathi vaazntha kaalamum mukkiyam. suthanthirap pOraattaththin uchcham athu. adimai India mattumalla, samUkaththin palvERu nilaikaLilum adimaiththanam vErUnRiyirunthathai aRinthavar. ellaa adimaiththanaththukkum moththamaaka vidivu solkiRaar:
"Boomiyil evarkkum ini adimai seyyOm - pari
pUraNanukkE adimai seythu vaazvOm."
evvaLavu raththina surukkamaaka, aaNiththaramaaka solli vidukiRaar.
peN viduthalaikkum 2 varigaLil solli vidukiRaar.
"kaathal seyyum manaiyaaLE sakthi kaNdeer
kadavuL nilai avaLaalE eytha vENdum"
kadavuL enRu kooda sollavillai. kadavuL nilai enRu solkiRaar. ithu Puthumai Bharathi.
pAppAvukkup pAdukiRaar;
"paathakam seybavaraik kaNdaal - naam
bayam koLLalaakaathu pAppA
mOthi mithiththu vidu pAppA - avar
mukaththil umiznthu vidu pAppA"
oru kuzanthaikku sollumpOthum Bharathiyin uRuthi, manaththuNivu thaniyaaka niRkiRathu.
Puthiya AththisUdiyil paramporuLai vaazththukiRaar. mika aRputhamaana paadal. (ingu bharathiyin sila varikaL mattum; muzup paadalum vENdumaanaal sollungaL)
"enap pala mathaththinar
uruvakaththaalE uNarnthuNaraathu
pala vagaiyaakap paravidum paramporuL
onRE; athan iyal oLiyuRum aRivaam;
athan nilai kaNdaar allalai akaRRinaar
athan aruL vaazththi amara vaazvu eythuvOm"
ingum Puthumai Bharathi. paramporuL onRE enbathu, Bharathikku munbE palarum solliyirukkiRaargaL. anthap ParamporuLai vaNangu enRu sollavillai. vaazththi, amara vaazvu eythalaam enRathuthaan Bharathiyin puthumai.
Kannammaavin kaathalai sollumpOthum
"thuyar pOyina,
ninaip ponnenak koNda pozuthilE thunbangaL pOyina "
"vaalaik kumariyadi kannammaa
maruvak kaathal koNdEn"
"kaaththiruppEnOdi? ithu paar
kannaththu maththamonRu!"
"mOnaththirukkuthadi! -intha vaiyakam
moozkith thuyilinilE,
naanoruvan mattilum pirivenbathOr narakath thuzaluvathO?"
ippadi kaathalin menmaiyaana uNarvukaLai kavithaiyil vadiththathilum Bharathikku thaniyidamthaan.
Kannammaavin kaathalai 2 varigaLil solli vidukiRaar. muththaayppaana varikaL!
"thaaraNiyil vaanulakil saarnthirukkum inbamellaam
Oruruvamaay samainthaay uLLamuthamE! Kannammaa!"
intha boomiyil sorkkamE Kannammavin kaathalthaan enkiRaar.
Bharathiyin kavithaiyai sollik koNdE pOkalaam.
neenga ellOrum TFMil Bharathiyin kavithaikaLai niRaiya solli vitteergaL. Bharathiyai paRRi ennaal konjamaavathu sollaamal irukka mudiyavillai.
Kanchana
neenga sonna uLLuNarvaana paadal varikaLai, TFMil Kannadasanin paadal varikaLil ennaal uNara mudinthirukkiRathu. ithu en thanippatta anubavam.
PKS communist katchiyil irunthaar. avarathu paadalkaLil uzaikkum varkkap pOraattangaL , vEkam niRainthirukkum. But definitely lacking in passion. I entirley agree with your opinion.
innum sila PKS paadalkaLai appuRam thodarkiREn.
- From: Bhaskar (@ ww-te05.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu Apr 23 23:14:22 EDT 1998
Keerthi Sir:
Vaaray nee vaaray, pOgum idam vegu dhooram illai
Song is written by K.M. Sheriff
Proof : EnnOda CD.
Thanks for you Titbits, Tips and Annecdote :-))))
on Marudhukasi, andha Thread mayakathulayae innum
irukeenga pOl irukku :-))))
Kanchana:
One more dhooL! SKP paadal which touches quite
a number of areas on my 10 point Samudhaya Karuthu
that I listed ages back.
Indha song romba romba arumaiyaa irukku.
Indha paadalOda karuthu indraikkum otthu pOgudhu.
Andha kaalathula paaduna paattu is still in
Vogue today. Lyrics padichu paarunga puriyum.
Enakku purinja lines explain senju irukkaen.
Song : Etthanai Kalamdhaan
Film : Malaikallan
Lyrics : TN Ramaiah Doss
Music : SM Subbiah Naidu
Singer : TMS
Etthanai Kaalamdhaan yaemattruvaar
Indha nAttilae! Innum Etthanai Kalamdhaan
Yaemattruvaar indha nAttilae! indha nattilae!
Sathiyam thavaradha uthaman pOlavae nadikkuraar
Samayam paarthu pala vagaiyenum koLLai adikkuraar
These lines talks about current day politics,
Lanjam and Oozhal.
Bhakthanai pOlavae pagal vaesham kAtti
Paamara makkalai valaiyinil mAtti
Talks about the Hi-Tech Sammiyaargal who run
a big under-world Mafia.
Etthanai Kalam dhaan . . . . .
Theruvengum palligal kattuvOm!
Kalvi theriyaadha paergalai illamal seiyvOm!
Talks about Education in Rural Places and
Education to all which hasn't taken place even
today in India.
Karuthaaga pala thozhil payiluvOm
Ooril kanjikku illai endra sollinai pOkkuvOm
Talks about self sufficiency and independence
and to build indegenious Technologies.
Through which to improve the betterment of life
and Mankind in India.
Ippadiellam paadiyum, solliyum naanga inga vandhu
indha USAvil kuppai kotti kondu iruppadhai
paarthaal varuthamaa irukku! :-(((((((
Enakku oru chinna exception, rendu varusham
Indian Governmentukkaga uzhachuttu dhaan vandhaen.
Etthanai Kaalam dhaan yaemattruvaar ........
Aalukku oru veedu kattuvOm!
Talks about Shelter for Homeless people!
and Shelter for everyone!
Adhil aAna kalaigalai seeraga payiluvOm!
VaedikkaigavaE Naalinai pOkkida
Kaelviyum gyanamum ondraaga thirakkuvOm!
I could not get these lines very clearly!
Innum ethhanai kaalam dhaan yaemaatruvaar
Indha nattilaE indha nattilaE ......
- From: Sathya (@ ppp-11.ts-8.hp.idt.net)
on: Thu Apr 23 23:22:29 EDT 1998
Bhaskar:
"vaaraay nee vaaraay" ezuthiyathu Maruthakasi. M.Kasiyin piLLai Maruthabarani (Tamilil dubbing padangaLukku vasanam ezuthukiRaar) anthap paadal ezuthiya sambavaththai appa solliyirukkiRaar (antha details piraku solkiREn) enRa news A.V.yil 2 varusham munbu vanthathu.
ungaL CD yil thavaRaaka pOttirukkalaam. niRaiya pazaiya paadalkaLil ippadi thavarukaL vanthu vidukinRana.
- From: Bhaskar (@ ww-te05.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu Apr 23 23:38:06 EDT 1998
Sathya:
Thanks for Bharadhiyaar muthaayppana varigal.
It is always a pleasure to read about Bharadhi.
Explained in such simple Tamizh to us who can't
understand Bharadhi's Thamizh very much.
Indha rendu lines konjam explain pannunga
Sathya, enakku sariyaavae puriyala. But I am very
Curious.
Inga vaendaam it might become a digression to
another SKP! (Sooper Kaadhal Paadalgal) :-)))))))
Mail anuppiduinga! naNdri!
"thaaraNiyil vaanulakil saarnthirukkum inbamellaam
Oruruvamaay samainthaay uLLamuthamE! Kannammaa!"
Is it thaaraNiyil ?? or Dharaniyil meaning
Bhoomiyil.
Indha rendu linesukku meaning eppadi indha
maadiri varudhu ?
intha boomiyil sorkkamE Kannammavin kaathalthaan enkiRaar.
Approm, Kalaivaanar cassette collection eNNidam
missing, I think I left it back in India, so
naeram kidaikkum bodhu inga post pannunga!
- From: Bhaskar (@ ww-te05.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu Apr 23 23:46:17 EDT 1998
Sathya:
Thanks for the correction on the Lyricist for
Varaay Nee vaaray
This song is a bliss to hear, deadly music!
and voice of Trichy Loganathan and Jikki.
Naan andha 50 dhavadhu pON vizha Cd-la dhaan
indha paadalukku Lyricist paarthaen.
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