Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
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I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)
"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."
Wow! Beautiful voice!
Neel's VJ Songs
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- From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241)
on: Tue Apr 9 11:17:44 EDT 2002
Naaz;
do u know, what raaga "Ezhu swarnghalukul ethanai paadal" is based on?, is it kalyani?
thanks
- From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63)
on: Tue Apr 9 11:31:40 EDT 2002
Raghu, the foundational raga of that song is Pantu Varali (by my deduction - I could be off the mark.) It changes with every stanza, and draws on other ragas. Hence it is a kind of "raga medley."
- From: AVR (@ 203.197.82.70)
on: Tue Apr 9 22:43:40 EDT 2002
In ezhu swarangalukkul, so many Raagas were used. What is quite miraculous is the return to the main raaga (puriya???) after each stanza.
- From: AVR (@ 203.197.82.70)
on: Tue Apr 9 22:44:46 EDT 2002
Kik:
can u add my name to your friends list? my id is ajit_v_r@yahoo.co.uk ?
- From: kik (@ 207.0.105.143)
on: Tue Apr 9 22:47:24 EDT 2002
Ok everyone: Now there are 2 ways of listening to these songs - one, click on the links below to d/l the song to your hard drive. Then use Music Match or some other program to listen to the mp3 songs.
Option 2 - pay US$10 to d/l Total Recorder 3.4 software (www.highcriteria.com I think). Run this in the background and click record. Send me your Yahoo ID (my email is kishorekca@yahoo.com). I will add your ID as a 'friend belonging to my club' (whatever the heck that means). Once this happens, go to http://briefcase.yahoo.com The directory is songs2 - you can listen to the song and Total Recorder will help you record it to your hard drive as well (as a wav file, mp3 - requires add'l software may be,...).
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/91a892fb/bc/Songs2/aanaa+kaanaa.mp3?bcOluA9AHSwnsaOi
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/91a892fb/bc/Songs2/azhagiya+kalai.mp3?bcOluA9A7rG_hw7K
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/91a892fb/bc/Songs2/deiveega+malar.mp3?bcOluA9ACIwLT54t
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/91a892fb/bc/Songs2/kaatrukku.mp3?bcOluA9AWpW822jP
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/91a892fb/bc/Songs2/maan+kanden.mp3?bcOluA9AG.kObSDp
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/91a892fb/bc/Songs2/ulagathin.mp3?bcOluA9A3OBbbBhx
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/91a892fb/bc/Songs2/vaaranam.mp3?bcOluA9AuZfxl6zR
I'll post other songs there over time - means this lot will go away. Perhaps once every couple weeks/month...
Now, I don't know how Yahoo monitors access - I strongly recommend that you pace yourselves. Wait a day/couple days/... It's possible that Yahoo may ask that I remove the songs (or worse) if there are too many hits at the same time. I'm assuming there are at most 10 people participating in this thread and an equal number of lurkers.
- From: kik (@ 207.0.105.143)
on: Tue Apr 9 22:53:05 EDT 2002
AVR: Not sure if yahoo.co.uk will work. May need to be .com - Tey it, I've added your ID.
- From: AVR (@ 143.127.3.10)
on: Wed Apr 10 01:05:54 EDT 2002
Naaz:
I need some help from you, so can u please check your email? :-)
- From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63)
on: Wed Apr 10 01:44:25 EDT 2002
AVR - Checked email. Your message has not made it - yet. I will reply once it gets here, k?
- From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63)
on: Wed Apr 10 02:00:41 EDT 2002
Kik - I've listened to the songs. Now please tell me if downloading these is a possibility? (Thanks for the yahoo effort!)
- From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10)
on: Wed Apr 10 03:02:56 EDT 2002
Naaz-
right click on the links posted here. Choose "save target as" from the drop-down menu that appears. Choose the appropriate directory where u wish to store the file and there you have it on your disk!
- From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10)
on: Wed Apr 10 03:07:47 EDT 2002
Kik:
Many many thanks for your efforts. U have given me a free treat!
- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ 64.105.35.164)
on: Wed Apr 10 03:12:13 EDT 2002
'Ezhu swarangaLukkuL' starts in panthuvarALi. The raagas covered are Sindhu Bhairavi, Ranjani and Kambhoji, may be not in that order. AVR's observation about the seemingly seamless integration of the raagas is correct. The reason being, at the end of every stanza (every raaga that is) , the last line is repeated in panthuvaraLi apart from the raaga it was set to, ensuring a fluent traversal back to the pallavi. eg :- "inba thunbam ethilum kELvi thAn.....' is sung in kambhoji and then gets repeated in PanthuvaraLi. Similarly 'payaNam nadaththi vidu marainthidum pAvam' is in SindhuBharaivi and gets repeated in PanthuvaraLi to ensure a seamless loop back to the pallavi.
MSV has used the same idea in the TMS-PBS duet in 'thavapputhalvan'.
- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ 64.105.35.164)
on: Wed Apr 10 03:19:45 EDT 2002
..and ofcourse in the popular KJY-VJ duet, 'thendralil Adum koonthalai kaNdEn', the pallavi seems to start in Sudha Saveri and then moves over to Arabhi. The second stanza of the song 'Alilayin OraththilE' starts in Karaharapriya and its last line 'kAlai varai kEtpathuNdO' is sung twice , once in Karaharapriya and then without the Tabla/Dholak with the Arabhi touch. The listener can only get mesmerised.
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Wed Apr 10 03:22:57 EDT 2002
Malligai en mannan - can u make out the Raga?
Normally in Ragamalika songs it will be the instrument which will enable the shift to the next raga... A violin..or a flute.GR and KVM songa will always have a violin arrangement.
MSV has attempted this type even in Utharavindri Ulle Vaa song .When the song moves from TMS piece back to SPB piece.
- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ 64.105.35.164)
on: Wed Apr 10 03:29:09 EDT 2002
OISG, 'Malligai..' is predominantly in Abheri/Bhimpalasi though it touches all the notes of Karahapriya and more !!!! There is N3 included to add beauty the tune especially in the second line 'en mannan mayangum' (in the word mannan). When VJ puts through the word 'malligai' with a sangathi, N3 is used again !!!
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Wed Apr 10 03:36:00 EDT 2002
Katrukkenna veli Kadalukenna mudi - You r right to bracket MSV s songs under a specific raga is stupid.
Naaz
I saw the VJ solo song in moondru mugam in SUN TV 2 days back.She does not fit into that song.
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Wed Apr 10 03:37:54 EDT 2002
Read ...
"You are Right! To bracket MSV s songs under specific ragas is stupidity"
- From: AVR (@ 143.127.3.10)
on: Wed Apr 10 04:11:34 EDT 2002
Sriram Lakshman:
You seem to have become a VJ fan ??? :-))
- From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.226)
on: Wed Apr 10 07:37:43 EDT 2002
Hi all,
I have uploaded the following songs in the following group. No need to post any message there. Any member can join the group and leave the group. Also members can upload any file in the Files section. Also allowed to download. Please join and share the songs u have.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vj_fanclub/
1. Thanimaiyil - Azahe Unnai Aarathikirean
2. Humko Manke Shakthi - VJ in Hindi (no idea about Movie and MD)
3. Oru Paarvai Nooru Kavithai - Duet with TMS. MSV. No idea about the movie.
4. En Kalyaana Vaiboham - Azahe Unnai Aarathikirean.
(I have "samudra raja kumara" and some more songs. I'll upload them once these songs are downloaded.)
- From: Neel D (@ 24.98.41.115)
on: Wed Apr 10 07:38:10 EDT 2002
kik,
Thank you for the songs. "aana kaana" is absolutely amazing. This is the first time I am listening to it. There must be a rule that any singer who wants to sing in Tamil films should audition by singing that song.
- From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.226)
on: Wed Apr 10 07:49:54 EDT 2002
No need to join the group to download the songs. visit the url given below. u can see the songs there.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vj_fanclub/files/
- From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.226)
on: Wed Apr 10 07:56:59 EDT 2002
I heard! I heard! Yes. Aanna Kaana song! wow! I dont think someone else can do the same. Who is the MD for "Kanji Kammatchi"?
- From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63)
on: Wed Apr 10 08:36:45 EDT 2002
AVR - Your email has not come my way yet (in case you were wondering why there was no reply...)
OISG - I have not seen Moondru Mugam in two decades. I remember "Devamirtham Jeevamirtham." What was the VJ solo you were referring to?
Neel D - Do MDs really audition singers before they decide who sings what? I wish that were the case...
- From: s0 (@ 128.119.85.50)
on: Wed Apr 10 08:44:23 EDT 2002
thanks a lot, kik & G.Ragavan.
- From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63)
on: Wed Apr 10 09:04:25 EDT 2002
Neel D,
When I interviewed VJ for the Express, she said that MSV was one of the most demanding MDs she had sung for. She said that he would change the tune ever so slightly with every "monitor" (a recording term,) was instruct the singer to incorporate this shift in the next take. Then he would have another idea after that take and change the beginning/ending in another way. As a result, there would be 7-8 versions of the same song, each a touch different in its compositional shifts...And then he would choose one that he believed was his "creative" vision. Mind you, these are not "takes" - these are "variations." She said that was the sort of challenge she looked forward to, as it also utilised her own classical training and enunciation to the optimum (this bit was considered too technical by the editors of the paper, and was snipped!)
- From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.226)
on: Wed Apr 10 09:07:32 EDT 2002
Naaz, who is the MD for "Kanji Kaamatchi"?
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