Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
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I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)
"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."
Wow! Beautiful voice!
Neel's VJ Songs
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- From: jeyaram (@ 203.197.134.90)
on: Sun Aug 25 13:59:42 EDT 2002
Saravanan,
Yes, "Naadamenum Koyilile..." is indeed a beautiful Sriranjini. The way Pallavi is framed by MSV and expressed by VJ is simply brilliant. (Esp "Yetri vaitha en vilakkai... " , it was simply brillant).
Rgpm Sundar,
I have a qn on "Kandhanukku Malaiyittal..." song, one of my favorite. What raga does it start ? In Pallavi, MSV changes scale to get Nadanamakriya (?) , when the last lines of Pallavi repeat.
pl confirm. This question lingers in my mind for a long time. Good you wrote about this song.
Vijay/Naaz/ saravanan
I am very eager to participate in MSV thread you are proposing. I would try to contribute as much as possible.
- From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.225)
on: Mon Aug 26 00:54:39 EDT 2002
Is "Kandthanuku Maalaiyittal" available in vanijayaram.com?
- From: Rgpm Sundar (@ 61.11.79.154)
on: Mon Aug 26 05:29:00 EDT 2002
Saravanan,
Thanks for the immediate response. No doubt VJ's creditials impeccable, well-trained but when it comes to value-addition to songs cited, I have a point. A voice that has been heard in songs like Machaney achaaram podu/Aalamara bondhukulle rendu kiligal (of course, you and I can still enjoy these songs) singing a pucca classical no. views differ. Though her voice sparkles in semi-classicals like Nadhamenum, Muthamizhil paada.., etc. In Srividya's case, there were other factors viz.,KB film, Kamal hero, heroine musician,different (perverted)story...and above all, the voices matched to a major extent. In KRV's case, it is just opposite. If it is KRV, it is PS only. IR's Isaiarasi is a classic example. My point is that the songs would have had due recognition-needless to say an ordinary low-budget film like NOolveli created a telling impact when Balamurali was inducted for Mounathil vilayadum... Agree?
Reg. Ungal viruppam prog. I have a point as a person who had visited several number of times to AIR Vividh Bharati. The choices of songs are made only by the prog. exec. and others there and not by listeners. The names of regular writers will be just read for these songs. You and I cant even listen to a single song if the entire prog. will of listeners' choices only. Their contention is that the listeners just want their names to figure in radio.
IR's Sangeetham en dhegamandro is not in Sriranjani as our friend has posted. It has a Kalyani base with a vivadi note.
P. Leela---first of all, the song is not that melodious. Both PL and Srividya became aged. IR must have opted PL probably because the latter would have pestered IR for a chance and out of Fazil's compulsion (Manavaadu sentiment-malayalam). PL had lost her sheen in her voice.
Jeyram,
Reg Kandhanukku malaiyittall, MSV must have had Chakravaham in mind and mixed it to satisfy MGR
- From: Rgpm Sundar (@ 61.11.79.154)
on: Mon Aug 26 06:19:26 EDT 2002
Saravanan/Naaz,
IR may have had his whims and fancies but IMO what changed the scenario is the entry of Chitra.If VJ had sung in POnmanaselvan, the recording would have done two or three years before and even for some other film thrusted here.
- From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.170)
on: Mon Aug 26 09:16:28 EDT 2002
Vani-Vijayabhaskar vignettes from 1976:
We had earlier seen the wonderful variety of songs that VJ got to sing for MSV in 1976. Let us now recollect her work with Vijayabhaskar. Admitted, he had nothing great to offer her in terms of numbers, for he had but two films in that year. But what he lacked in volume, he more than made up in value, and in both the films, gave songs that are enshrined forever in the hearts of discerning listeners.
Vijayabhaskar, during his brief stint in tfm, never worked for big banners or big stars, save a couple of exceptions. Nonetheless, his music was of the highest order and his classic creations have survived the ruthless ravages of time. An unassuming genius, who left tfm as unobtrusively as he entered it.
He was in many ways, like Wordsworth’s Lucy- He lived unknown, and few could know when VB ceased to be---
68. Manamagaley – Kalangalil Aval Vasantham- VB
Film starred Muthuraman, Srividya and Chandrakala. I haven’t seen the film,or any song on TV either-surprising, considering how popular they were. But I do remember that while watching a hindi film called ‘Basera’ (Shashi Kapoor, Rakhee, Rekha), one of my aunts commented that it seemed to be a modified version of KAV. Ironically, Basera itself was remade in tamizh again as ‘Kanmaniye Pesu’ –1986, stg. Sivakumar, Lakshmi and Ambika.
This was an emotion charged drama of an elder sister giving up her husband, and marital bliss, for the sake of her younger sister.
Let me summarise the story of ‘Basera’: Shashi is happily married to Rakhee. Rekha is the younger sister of Rakhee. Her wedding is arranged. Tragedy strikes suddenly and Rekha’s husband dies immediately after the wedding. Rakhee is so shocked that she looses her senses and becomes a raving lunatic-She is admitted to a mental hospital, with no hope of recovery. Sashi marries Rekha in due course, more out of convenience- Rekha gets security and Sashi gets a mother for his son. Years roll by. Suddenly Rakhee gets back her sanity. But the doctor warns Sashi that she is still delicately balanced, and if she knew that he has married Rekha, she may become insane again. So Rekha dons the vennira aadai and Rakhee returns home. But gradually she stumbles upon the truth, and in order to ensure the continued happiness of her sister, pretends to become mad again and gets sent back to the hospital.
Does the story of Kaalangalail Aval Vasantham run along similar lines?
Another unforgettable ‘Kalyanam’ song by VJ- how many such auspicious songs she must have sung – and how aptly does her voice suit such songs!
This surely would rate as the best among them- VB, with the help of Vani, Veenai, Nadhaswaram and Melam, has a created an immortal song in which all the wedding rituals unfold in your mind one by one, and Vani captures each detail with vibrant vivacity.
Manamagaley, un manavarai kolam
Naalai varugindrathu
Maalai vizhugindrathu
Kanni kazhigindrathu
Madurai Meenatchi maharani thilagam
Maindhan Kumaresan thirupalli pathigam
Mayavaram koorai pattadai jolikkum
Mangai oorgolam malar maalai mayakkam
Yendi Ilanchittu, Vendhan kai pattu-
Enna seithaai endroru thozhi sirikkum!
Manjal varam kondu malar mangai varuvaal
Maithunan nambi Madhusoodhan varuvaan
Kasiperundhevi Gangai neer tharuvaal
Kaiththalam thandhu kalyanam purivaal
Melam isai meva
Maadhar malar thoova
Vedha munivorgal meigyagam purivaar—
(Please correct the lyrics, wherever I have slipped- )
As usual, Vani steals our ears and hearts with the opening alaap itself- how speedily she runs, and what heights she scales, of course, without batting an eyelid or missing a single note- and she pauses only at the summit, where VB welcomes her with the Nadhaswara thoranam. Oh, the sheer bliss which envelopes us, as we too reach the pinnacle of pleasure!
And the short musical boulevard from that peak is decorated with the Veenai notes striking a captivating chord, leading to the pallavi, whence Vani once again takes off with ‘Manamagaley’
Pray listen to the Nadaswaram and Vani-swaram duet in the first interlude- it is something which lesser singers can’t even dream of!
VB gives exquisite ‘kalyana’ touches after each line beginning from Melam isai meva. Class!
In short, VByum VJyum serndhu oru kalyanaththaye nadathivittaargal!!
69. Paadum vande paarthathunda- Kaalangalil Aval Vasantham- VB
(Solos page 5)
KAV was a VJ show all the way- Of the 4 songs, 3 were VJ solos and the 4th was a SPB-VJ duet.
A complete change of mood from ‘Manamagaley’. We find a different VJ here- singing for the heroine who has lost her man, perhaps on her wedding night itself- the calamity has thrown her into an unhinged state- she is reeling from the shock and lamenting her loss-
Paadum vandey paarthathundaa-
Maalai anindha en mapillai
Yendi thozhi, enna seithaai,
Engu maraithaai—Kannan-Engey? Engey? Engey? Engey?
Vaari mudikka malargal thoduthaar
Vannachelai vaangi koduthaar
Kolam thiruthi kaathu kidanthen
Kovil vazhiyai paarthu kidanthen
Oorvalam engey- uravugal engey?
Unmai sollayadi endhan Kannalan vandhaar ingey- Engey? Engey? Engey?
Yengiya naatkal nooradi thozhi
Thoongiya iravo ondrarai naazhi
Aalayam paaduthu ananda vaazhi
Avarindri koovuthu aayiram kozhi
Kannilum paarthen, kanavilum paarthen-
Indru vandhaanadi endhan Kannalan ingey- Engey? Engey? Engey?
Vani sets the mood at the outset itself – the vacant, hysterical laughter she gives is the chilling prelude-
The random ramblings of a mind freed from any semblance of balance - the stupefaction caused by a sudden tragedy, and the mind refusing to accept the loss- VJ touchingly brings out all this and more- that echoing ‘Engey’ is a haunting touch!
70. Anbenum sudaraal- Kaalangalil Aval Vasantham- VB
The 3rd soulful solo. A song in the lines of the ‘Deviyar iruvar Muruganukku’ (Kalaikkovil) and ‘Punnagai mannan poovizhi kannan’ (Iru Kodugal). Here she acknowledges that the life that she is enjoying is a donation from her sister, and, with illustrative analogies, justifies bigamy. She hints at the nijam, which has become a nizhal--
Anbennum sudaraal erindhadhu vilakku
Adhanaal erindhadhu innoru vilakku
Siriyathu jothi
Periyathu deepam
Irandum eriayattum, ithilenna paavam?
Oru kai thaangum,
Maru kai meettum-
Iru kai veenayil pirappathu ragam!
Thalai oru madiyil
Kaal oru madiyil-
Thirumaal arivaan, Thirumagal dhaabam--
Valadhu kai unakku
Idadhu kai enakku
Valli Deivaani pottathu kanakku
Valadhu kann paarthaal
Idadhu kann paarkkum-
Manidharukkellaam irandu kann edharkku?
Idhuvarai sonnathu
Ulagathin vazhakku
Innoru ragasiyam idhayathil irukku!
VJ brings out with depth of understanding the plethora of turbulent emotions that the situation demands. Listen to her lower her voice, albeit ever so slightly, in ‘Innoru’(Innoru ragasiyam idhayathil irukku)- Andha nodiyil angey kalai vaazhnthathu!
What a wonderful clean sweep by Vani- 3 superb solos in a single film!
71. Mudhal mudhal- Kaalangalil Aval Vasantham- SPB- VB
(Duets 2 page 2)
A melodious duet by VB’s favourite pair. Going by the lyrics, it is yet another song where the hero tries to get too physical, and the heroine, in good tamizh tradition, counsels patience till their marriage is solemnized.
SPB: Mudhal mudhal varum sugam edhuvena ilamai ketkirathu
VJ: Mudhal iravinil varum sugamena idhazhgal solgirathu
SPB: Unnai naanum ennai neeyum unarndha pinnaley,
Unnai thottu aadi magizha thadaigal sollaadhey
VJ: Manathil manadhu serndha pothum maalai vendaama-
Maalai ondru potta pinnaal madiyil vizhalaame
SPB: Paruvakaalathin pudhiya kanavugal kaathu kidappathil enna laabam?
VJ: Indha azhagum paruva sugamum nilaithu nirkkaathu
Nenjil valarum unmai anbu endrum maaraathu
SPB: Andha unmai ariyum ullam enakku kidaiyaathaa?
Adhuvum vendum, idhuvum vendum-unakku theriyaatha?
VJ: Adhuvum puriyuthu idhuvum theriyithu-
Kaalam kaniyattum alli tharuven!
Simple lyrics, bringing out the age-old argument refreshingly. Good show by SPB & VJ.
Of special mention are the opening humming by both and VJ’s lovely prolonging of ‘Vendaama’ in the first charanam and ‘nirkkaathu’ in the 2nd.
72. Sangeetham ragangal illamala- Moham 30 varusham- SPB- VB
Film starred Kamal, Sumitra, Sripriya and perhaps Fadafat J too. Have a feeling it was Maniyan’s story. Kamal is a fun loving modern youth. Alas! He gets married to orthodox Sumitra and the travails that follow---
Other good songs from the film include KJY’s famous ‘Enathu vaazhkkai paadhayil’ and PS’ ‘Irubathu vayathin’.
This song initially has Kamal begging his wife Sumitra to satisfy his physical longings. When his pleas fall on deaf ears, he is miffed. Then she tries to entice him, but now it is his turn to play hard to get, and finally they unite!!
Sangeetham ragangal illamala
Sandhosham samsaaram illamala
Kaadhal-
Moham-
Inbam-
Punniyama purushaargama?
(What is the meaning of ‘Purushaargama? VJ says ‘Purushaarthama’- what does this mean?)
SPB puts forth his pleas forcefully: Seethaiyidam Raman kaanaadhadhaa?
Deviyarin vaazhvil illaadhadhaa?
Radhaiyidam Kannan naadaadhadhaa?
Raasaleelai enna koodadhadhaa?
Ulagil Oru baagam, uravu kollum dhaagam-Punniyama purushaargama?
VJ voices Sumitra’s longings thus: Ennazhagai naane thaan solvatha?
Yekkam ennavendru naan solvadha?
Oviyathu penmai uyir kolluma?
Uravu illa penmai thuyil kolluma?
Kooturavu inbam, kettupperum thunbam-Punniyama purushaarthama?
--and so they go on and make up in the third charanam- here watch out for VJ’s seductive lowering of ‘thanal’ in the line ‘Penn manadhu ingey thanal kondathu’- Oof!
Also not to be missed are VJ’s ‘Hmm, summa irunga, thookkam varuthu’ konjal in the prelude, just after the whistle and parrot opening, and SPB’s ‘Summa Irumaa, don’t disturb me. Adadaa!”erichal in the interlude.
Mudhalil oodal, piragu koodal, adharkku indha paadal!!
---1976 to continue with other MDs--
- From: Saravanan (@ 194.170.1.132)
on: Mon Aug 26 09:34:45 EDT 2002
Naaz- I am overwhelmed by your kind words, but it is only the inputs from all of you, which give a sense of completion.
'Pagaliley oru nilavinai kanden' is a lovely SJ number from Ninaive oru sangeetham-1987- Vijaykanth, Radha & Rekha.
R Sundar- I respect your opinion. As you say, our views differ-that's all.
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