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- From: * (@ 161.114.64.71)
on: Tue Dec 16 11:55:13 EST 2003
Meticulously prepared reviews, well done bb!
- From: C~P (@ 61.2.224.247)
on: Tue Dec 16 12:06:03 EST 2003
Ramki,
theriyumpa theriyum! ... i though Ferrari wud point that out, neenga munthikitteenga! ;-)
actually, the whole film is galij! ... aabasathin ucham!
Thiru,
vellarikka song-laya? ... can u mention the line please??
*,
"Ramesh-ku inimel chance kidaikuma?"
sounds like Pulli Rajavaukku AIDS varuma? :-)
btw..how do i get to that blog u ppl are talking abt??
- From: Kupps (@ 199.180.6.44)
on: Tue Dec 16 12:25:06 EST 2003
>>>>>>>>
OISG, yaar antha 'iniya' ? ;-)
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NagaS, adhu Jay Jay -la varra amOgavOda original paeru ;-)
paeru thaan OISG aana aNNan periyaaLu...kameshwara mmmm...jamaai jamaai
Please note that i dont have my fingers in my kashkam ;-)
- From: C~P (@ 61.2.224.247)
on: Tue Dec 16 12:33:17 EST 2003
Varadakutty, pulippu mittai venumoo? ... ooo!
- From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 210.214.95.87)
on: Tue Dec 16 12:59:33 EST 2003
Ramki,
The heroine of 'awwal number' was not Mamta Kulkarni. Her name is Ekta and I don't know where she disappeared after a couple of films and (I think) the 'Junoon' (Dina Thanthi's kanniththeevu!!) serial!!
- From: Ramki (@ 161.150.2.31)
on: Tue Dec 16 13:11:45 EST 2003
CV thanks for the correction, its Ektaa. I remember seeing her in a forgettable akshay kumar movie(nazar ke saamne?)
Mamta kulkarni acted with aamir in Baazi
- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Tue Dec 16 13:27:32 EST 2003
"Something tells me that after the third test we will be having "ponaal pogattum poda" as the SOTD"
Vijay, we had that when India lost in the world cup final :)
"what made you predict htat sachin will fail in this series?"
His innings against the Victoria Bushrangers, the first match for Indians down under. He scored 80 in quicktime, thrashing non-entities like McDonald, seemed like he was very eager to dominate and do well. An attitude that has caused him to fail on many occasions. An attitude that saw him go after McGrath in the world cup final. Extreme watchfulness, or pre-determined eagerness to dominate usually show vulnerability. The batsman wouldn't play his normal shots with confidence, or treat the ball on merit. You can find that among several batsmen, Aamer Sohail, Vengsarkar readily come to mind. I felt that Aamer Sohail would get out to Venkatesh Prasad at Bangalore the same way it happened. Sachin will come out of this for sure.
I would love to see a movie based on India's campaign at England, '71. I believe that India's win at Oval '71 is the greatest moment for Indian cricket in Tests. It will be great if they can make a movie out of it. Wonder why such subjects are not explored.
"In TF, there was a vague Sivaji film (anbaith thEdi???) where he suffers from grand illusions. In one sequence, on hearing from his transistor that India needs a handful of runs to win, he starts imagining himself at the crease and 'kuvichufies' runs by the dozen!!!"
I would love to see this film. Looks like it will beat the likes of sandhippu, lorry driver rajakkaNNu :)
- From: * (@ 161.114.64.71)
on: Tue Dec 16 14:40:16 EST 2003
bb,
I remember OISG's very first mail where he stated that Indian Films Division made a movie of that historic series with commentary by Raju Bharatan. Over to OISG for more info!
- From: Thiru (@ 12.33.141.40)
on: Tue Dec 16 14:45:23 EST 2003
c-p,
"locket ile lara, tommy
notebook ile sachin, jackson
haircut kku beauty parlour thaanamma"
- From: OISG (@ 213.42.2.13)
on: Wed Dec 17 00:17:51 EST 2003
Clarification 1:
Indian Films division movie was on the 1972-73 series with commentaries by Raju Bharathan.The film titled "victory-Series" was a 90 minute movie on the series.It was released first in 1977 in theatres.It had a tremendous run in 1981 in Trichy after the Melbourne victory over Aussies.
I don t remeber an IFD movie on the 71 series.However I have seen old video tapes of that series in 1980 when i visited another Cricket fan's place at chennai to see the Wimbledon's greatest match."Sunil Gavaskar presents" showed the highlights of this series and I remember Chandra's smile after Snow's C&B.
I would have enjoyed a current technology camera view of chandra and Prasanna's bowling.
My uncle got married in Feb 81 (9 or 10 th).That uncle's daughter is getting married this summer.We have a generation gap between victories.
Clarification 2:To Varadukutty and all!
India became Inia and thats all about it.Since Simran got married I am down with Pasalai.Simran i paartha kangaL verondrum KaaNave!(Last time i was down with Pasalai when Amala got married and before that it was when Sridevi got married and before that it was when Jayaprada got married.......)
- From: bb (@ 24.6.216.148)
on: Wed Dec 17 00:23:30 EST 2003
Song of the Day: raagam puthu raagam from nenjil oru muL.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/raagamputhu.rm
- Saravanan writes:
‘rAgam pudhu rAgam’ from nenjil oru muL. Sung by Deepan Chakravarthi & S.P.Shailaja. Music by GKV.
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Resuming the GKV saga, we notice that the Tamil Gods seemed to have smiled benignly upon him in 1981, and let 3 films fall into his hand. GKV joyously went about working on their score, for he knew that such abundance was a rare visitor at his door--
Annapurna Art Pictures’ Pennin Vaazhkkai starred Sudhakar, Aruna & Rathi, and its album comprised of 4 memorable PS duets- One with SPB- ‘Janakan pon maane Sriraman naane’ and three with Jayachandran: ‘Maasi maadham muhurtha neram medai mangalam’, ‘Malligai poovil indru punnagai kolam ondru’, and lastly, my favorite ‘Veedu thedi vandhadhu nalla vaazhvu enbathu’, where GKV’s music, Vaali’s lyrics and the euphonious enchantment of PS & JC come together to cast a wondrous spell.
Solar Combines’ Deiva Thirumanangal has a unique place in the history of Tamil Cinema. It was actually 3 separate films- each one with a separate crew and cast. Meenakshi Thirumanam was directed by P. Neelakantan and had music by KVM. Valli Thirumanam was directed by K. Kameswara Rao and had music by GKV. Srinivasa Thirumanam was directed by K. Shankar, with music by MSV. Kannadasan’s dialogues and lyrics were the common factors for the three parts. GKV’s work included songs like ‘Kandhan vandhaan Kandhan vandhaan Valli malai melaaga’(SJ), ‘Yechipputtaene thatha yechipputtaene’ (SPB/SJ) and the short ‘Valli Deivaanaiyudan varam kodukkum Muruganin’ (K.Veeramani). These simple folksy songs couldn’t hold a candle to KVM’s classic creations like ‘Thirumaale seeradum manivanna’ (VJ) and ‘Unakku pani seiyya’ (SG) or MSV’s captivating compositions like ‘Thangam vairam navamanigal’(MBK/VJ), ‘Vaanamum bhoomiyum aalinganam’(PS), ‘Mannavan thannaiye marakka’(PS), ‘Mangai thangai malarkkai’(VJ). Nonetheless, the memory oof pretty Sridevi (who played Valli) warding off the birds, singing ‘Vethalai kiliyae sollaadhe veliye odi vaa odi vaa’ (SJ) also endures.
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The third film in 1981 for which GKV composed music was Nenjil Oru Mul. The story was fairly engrossing—On the eve of her marriage (arranged by her uncle), Madhu runs away to be united with her lover—only to catch that scoundrel in ‘a compromising situation’ with a woman companion, and to discover that he had wooed her only to usurp her money. Madhu returns home heartbroken and finds her uncle dead from shame. She leaves town, and meets her childhood friend in the train. The friend is now a widow with a small child, and is going to meet her in-laws for the first time. The train meets with an accident, and the friend is fatally wounded. She begs Madhu to masquerade as her, so that her child might have a good future at her in-law’s house. Madhu agrees and proceeds there. She is accepted as the daughter-in-law. She also meets a good-hearted man who has taken to drink as his betrothed had run away on the eve of the wedding--
Seems familiar? It had better, for it is the story that Gulshan Nanda wrote and was immortalised on celluloid in 1970 by Shakti Samanta as ‘Kati Patang’. Excellent performances by Rajesh Khanna and Asha Parekh (Her performance in the film fetched her the Filmfare Award), and winsome music by R.D.Burman added to the film’s appeal tenfold. Besides securing the Filmfare nomination in 6 categories, Kati Patang was a runaway success to boot.
More than a decade later, in 1981 our Mathioli Shanmugam thought it fit to retell the story in a Tamil milieu. Doubtless a good thought--but as they say, the path to hell is paved with such noble intentions, for Nenjil Oru Mul was a very tawdry remake, and made insufferable viewing. Pratap Pothen and Poornima Jairam (debut) played the lead roles. Poornima’s debut in he Hindi film Paheli-1977 didn’t exactly set the Powai lake on fire, but Faazil’s ‘Manjal Virinja Pookal’- 1980 proved to be a lucky threshold to the South and Poornima went on to win the Kerala Govt. Best Actress Award for her very first film. And Nenjil Oru Mul presented her in the Madras marquee.
Anyone would be intimidated when asked to compose for the remake of a musical blockbuster like Kati Patang. But GKV came up with some wonderful songs and today Nenjil Oru Mul is all forgotten, save its music:
Ragam pudhu ragam ini naalum paadalaam- DC & SPS
My name is Rosy, what’s your name please- VJ
Neraagave ketkkiren orey bathil nee indru kooradi- DC & VJ
Sorgama naragama rendum naan kanden- MV
Vaazhkkaiyenum paadhaithanilae- GKV
While the soulful ‘Neraagave ketkkiren’ is my pick of the lot, ‘ragam pudhu ragam’ is no less attractive. 1981 must have a special place in Deepan Chakravarthi’s memories as well, for while IR gave him a piece of immortality in Enakkaaga Kaathiru, Shyam said ‘Vaa Indha Pakkam’ and honored him with ‘Ananda dhaagam’, and GKV gave him two of his best songs ever in Nenjil Oru Mul.
rAgam pudhu rAgam is based on GKV’s own Kannada composition ‘raga anurAga’ sung by Rajkumar & SJ in the 1977 film Sanaadi Appanna. You can listen to it either at http://www.udbhava.com/udbhava/songs.jsp?id=325 or at http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/YY00000I27
You would perceive that on the same foundation, GKV has raised two marvelous monuments—both strikingly similar but structurally different, each one an elegant edifice with mutually exclusive appeal. GKV has reworked rewardingly on ‘rAgam pudhu rAgam’, so that it boasts of a special prelude that ‘Raga anurAga’ didn’t have and the interludes are dazzlingly different. Again, the charanams are longer in the Kannada original, and it has a third charanam too which varies uniquely from the first two. Being an acclaimed Veenai player himself, GKV has masterfully retained it as the mesmerising mainstay in both the versions. Hark at his Veenai caress your ears in the second interlude- so perceptive of GKV, for the charanam begins with the lines ‘meni veenai ondru adhai meetti paarkkavo’!
rAgam pudhu rAgam—idhai nALum ketkkalAm--
- From: Udhaya (@ 67.124.142.142)
on: Wed Dec 17 03:08:27 EST 2003
bb/Saravanan,
I was hoping that you two would bring the GKV countdown to this criminally overlooked song. Thanks a million. If only we could use "find-replace" function for singers on CD tracks, Dheepan would figure prominently in my collection.
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