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A request to amateur composers who visit this page

Topic started by Vijay (@ 212.137.205.127) on Thu Nov 16 16:58:22 EST 2000.
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I'd like to request amateur composers who visit this page to tell me if they've uploaded any of their work onto the internet and if they have, please tell me where I can listen to it. Thank You.

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• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48) on: Thu Mar 8 11:58:30 EST 2001
  
  comment/guys
  
  If I am to buy a decent keyboard for composing songs which one will be the best my budget is not more than $1000.
  Which will be best choice if you can give a list !! :)
  
  thanks
  
  
• From: comment (@ 63.225.173.91) on: Thu Mar 8 12:00:25 EST 2001
  
  UV,
  This depends on what kind of music you want to do
  $1000 is not the big deal, Rs200 harmonium would do.
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48) on: Thu Mar 8 12:06:37 EST 2001
  
  comment
  
  I am more interested in newage,worldfusion kind of music. Some tamil melodies too!! :)
  Swamiji has suggested me Triton I think it will be above $1000 right so I have look for next best alternative
  
  
• From: comment (@ 63.225.173.91) on: Thu Mar 8 12:18:25 EST 2001
  
  good to know that, all the best in your composing venture. btw:Triton is about $2300.
  
  
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Thu Mar 8 12:23:09 EST 2001
  
  UV: korg n1. this sound is good, the menu is not very user-friendly but once you get to know it, it is good; it's available for about $1200.
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48) on: Thu Mar 8 12:25:26 EST 2001
  
  thnks comment u have already listened to my compositions anyway. For a kudumbasthan like me its little pricy!! :( anyway i will try Roland or Yamaha PSR series
  
  
• From: comment (@ 63.225.173.91) on: Thu Mar 8 12:56:07 EST 2001
  
  thats why i told, if you are really serious about music production!...get triton, it is costly piece of gadget :)
  
  as Arularacan says you can try korg n1, 01w, roland jv's., used ones are much lower, check
  http://www.ugbm.com,
  see you might get a good deal.
  
  
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48) on: Thu Mar 8 13:07:47 EST 2001
  
  thanks comment
  and one more question may sound silly
  does this Korg Triton have modulator and bender ?
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48) on: Thu Mar 8 13:11:02 EST 2001
  
  or its all inbuilt ?
  
  
• From: comment (@ 63.225.173.91) on: Thu Mar 8 13:13:50 EST 2001
  
  yes ofcourse, also it has a slider pad
  you can assign any midi event to this.
  goto to korg.com for more info.
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48) on: Thu Mar 8 13:54:33 EST 2001
  
  comment
  I went to Korg official site and its amazing.
  I listened to few samples its great.
  Now for the question they have a Triton
  series 61,76,88 which should one buy
  and if anyone can recommend model no in Roland,Yamaha will be appreciated
  thanks again
  
  
• From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Thu Mar 8 14:10:31 EST 2001
  
  No doubt Triton is worth its money. I think it will make excellent live action keyboard too, coz it has so many controls (slider, switches, knobs , 2 assignable pedals...etc.) and excellent sounds too!
  UV, why dont u try roland XP-30 or something? It is priced < 1000, and it is a very good buy.
  I dont suggest Yamaha PSRs(I mean the PSRs only) as the preset sounds are not very impressive. Roland sounds are much better.
  
  
• From: comment (@ 63.225.173.91) on: Thu Mar 8 14:13:17 EST 2001
  
  61=61 keys (2300)
  76=76 keys (2600)
  88=88keys, weighted piano keys, around 3100.
  all of them have the same functionality.
  you pay couple of 100's more for number of keys.
  Roland - jvs are good. goto to their websites and check,
  goto to guitarcenter and ask them for a demo.
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48) on: Thu Mar 8 15:26:32 EST 2001
  
  Will do that this weekend
  family have gone to india so kind of vetti now at house!!
  Comment,swamiji where do you guys live
  LA/Pittsburgh?
  I live in DC!!
  
  
• From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Thu Mar 8 15:41:51 EST 2001
  
  The Bay
  
  
• From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.227) on: Thu Mar 8 16:35:34 EST 2001
  
  Swamiji,
  
  Bay of Bengal?-)
  
  
• From: jdd (@ 63.108.172.129) on: Fri Mar 9 12:58:08 EST 2001
  
  I always wanted to ask a keyboard player who does stage/live performance as to how it is done; especially when there might be some impromptu requests from audience. There might be too much info to be described (in posting); still, there should always be a beginning right? so:
  
  1. how do you program for a song [let's take a song say, "kuzhal oodhum kannanukku" (Mella Thirandhadhu Kadhavu)]? as far as I can think of, this has different beats in the "pallavi" and "stanza"s; some other songs like "Panivizhum malarvanam" (Ninaivellaam nithya) have various beats in interludes and even in stanzas; so, hope the song "Kuzhal oodhum" is relatively simple to explain
  - can this be done with Yamaha PSR like instruments with programming the "start", "stop", "main-A", and "main-B" patterns?
  - any other tech intricacies once should take care?
  
  2. do you recall these from floppy also, if needed?
  
  3. how does "changing the song as per the singer" work? is it just equivalent to "changing the transpose"? [will all the other settings change automatically?]
  
  4. in stage programs, there will be more musicians like rhythm guitarist, bass guitarist, person for drums; if so, are these parts ever programmed in keyboard OR just muted if there is a real person?
  
  As far as I have seen the keyboard players do things effortlessly during the programs; that still mystifies me. Maybe, I can get some answers here [It will be very useful for people who have interest in doing some live programs, even for the family get-togethers OR more serious stage programs]
  
  As far as I gather from this forum, any keyboard above the PSR-640 has support for these
  
  Thanks in advance
  
  
• From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Fri Mar 9 20:24:01 EST 2001
  
  Hi Jdd,
  I think it is not a good idea to pile the whole song with bunch of different beats into a multipad / program into an accompaniment - simply because keyboards dont have enough memory to hold many songs. You might have to set up a laptop side by side, but people might think the whole thing is sequenced. I understand the need to program rythm into the keoyboard, especially with the new kits that cannot be played with an acoustic drum.
  I guess the best solution is to buy drum triggers with a MIDI interface (or drum modules connected to a pad). I am not sure if the pads are actually available, but give it a try. All you need is to hook it up to your keyboard's STD kid/Custom kit and play them through MIDI interface to drum triggers(like a drum pad). So you actually dont have to program the beats and give a hard time for the singers!
  I dont understand changing song per singer? Well, if you transpose, I think that the whole song will be transposed?
  And yeah, try to use real musicians as much as possible because 1. they sound much much better than the synth sounds and 2. they provide so much live action on stage than would an inanimate person near a synth. - For this purpose you know guitar FX processors offer good synth bass/guitar sounds u can play with your regular guitar! So I suggest you try them
  My point is, use synth to produce only synth sounds. If you have natural instruments, use em.
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 24.4.252.137) on: Fri Mar 9 22:26:55 EST 2001
  
  Swamiji:
  
  That's a very good understanding about Live Performances.
  
  Regards,
  Aditya
  
  
• From: jdd (@ 63.108.172.129) on: Mon Mar 12 12:15:25 EST 2001
  
  Thanks Swamiji for the tips
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48) on: Mon Mar 12 14:20:34 EST 2001
  
  Swamiji,Comment
  I did visited Guitar Center and tried Triton and Korg Karma both are out of this world kind of Synth.
  Now I have a question whats the difference between Karma and Triton any difference in styles etc I found Karma Sound Sampling are wonderful
  and ready to compose kind of stuff
  
  thanks
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.201) on: Mon Mar 12 15:49:18 EST 2001
  
  UV:
  
  KARMA seems to be Triton minus Sampler. Ofcourse KARMA is very light. I think KARMA is more a live instrument.
  
  Aditya
  
  
• From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Mon Mar 12 16:18:46 EST 2001
  
  KARMA uses the same sound engine as the Triton. The difference is producing on the fly phrases (with the arpeggiator)that is really cool.
  You might learn more about it in official website. I suggest you subscribe to keyboard magazine (www.keyboardmag.com) too to know more.
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 206.150.228.62) on: Wed Mar 14 13:03:22 EST 2001
  
  UV, jdd
  Sound font try pannineengala?
  RJ
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48) on: Thu Mar 15 10:30:26 EST 2001
  
  Rjay
  Yes I managed successfully to load it into my exisitng sound fonts and was also able to play in my midi keyboard.
  But one question what about sruthi/pitch adjustment lets say I am playing/singing in a particular octave how to tune it to that
  Swamiji I am still confused between Karma vs Triton.
  I tried playing few things in Karma and it automatically added beautiful sound along with my playing does Triton also has that?
  
  
• From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Thu Mar 15 12:51:14 EST 2001
  
  Do you mean accompaniment according to the melody you play? I know Triton can be programmed to play phrases from the keys you press. Thats one of the features of the arpeggiator. I think KARMA has its own algorithm to generate phrases - which the Triton cant do. Please check their specs on each and give us ur inputs.
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48) on: Thu Mar 15 13:32:29 EST 2001
  
  Swamiji,Srikanth and fellows
  this what I found
  The Karma has a 16 track sequencer and four audio outputs, plus eight realtime knobs, and is 62 voice polyphonic.
  The unique part of this synth is what Korg calls the "Karma module". Not having a tremendous amount of time to play with this synth I can't go into great detail on it, but it seems that the Karma module is an arpeggiator, or rather several arpeggiators that interact with how you play the synth. I noticed that playing with different velocity and/or pitch seemed to bring up different sequences of notes, or variations of the sequences of notes. Again, I didn't have time to really dig in and do some programming, but some of the cascades of notes that came out of the Karma were quite lovely to hear. Korg calls these sequences of notes Generated Effects (GE). Up to four GE's can be playing at one time. If I understand correctly, GE's are basically small sequencers that have 400 parameters each. The parameters include harmony, scale, ad-lib/humanize, rhythm randomization and complexity, phrase variation, tone, pan, effects, pitchbend, volume, velocity, duration, MIDI control changes, chord control, MIDI delay/repeat, and pitch change. Up to sixteen of those controls are available for realtime control.
  And the retailer was selling it around $1250-500
  Here is two links that has detail reviews
  please help me out by going through this
  and help me decide
  appreciate ur help very much
  PS Karma mp3 download is pretty impressive also
  
  http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM01/Content/Korg/PR/Karma.html
  http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM01/Content/Korg/HotPick/Karma.html
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 192.138.149.4) on: Thu Mar 15 17:15:52 EST 2001
  
  PlanetKarma 4th Movement sounds like a Zakir Hussain composition that I have on CD. If you listened to the original, then the Karma lags behind but otherwise I think its okay (see my point of reference is real instruments). If you guys are interested I can list the CD which are known for their sound (audiophile quality) in each genre.
  BTW, I would like to hear a demo of this auto-accompaniment/GE whatever. Two mp3 files one with it and without it would be great. This will help people like me appreciate these new digital/electronic music better (right now I am an avid aficionada of real acoustics sounds, just like I stick with my SLR instead of those digital cameras).
  
  

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