Topic started by Vijay (@ 212.137.205.127) on Thu Nov 16 16:58:22 EST 2000.
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I'd like to request amateur composers who visit this page to tell me if they've uploaded any of their work onto the internet and if they have, please tell me where I can listen to it. Thank You.
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- From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48)
on: Mon Mar 5 16:07:56 EST 2001
Yes Kiru ,
Jai Uttal throws a challenge to our ARRs..
And I am sure this malkones song if played in a disco club will be welcomed very much it has good groove and wilderness about it. so using our own ragas you can do wonders make it sound fresh peppy and without losing nativity Jai Uttal leads the way.
I will strongly recommend his Saint And Beggars and SHiva Station album to anyone worthy buying.
Short Bio of Jai Uttal
Jai Uttal is a pioneer in the world music community. His eclectic east meets-west sound has put his music at the forefront of the world beat movement. Jai's musical roots embrace a rich variety of cultures and traditions from around the world
As a child in New York City, Jai filled his home with music. By the time he was a teenager he was not only an accomplished classical pianist, but played banjo, harmonica and guitar as well. His musical interests encompassed a wide variety of styles and sounds that eventually led him to the work of India's National Living Treasure, Ali Akbar Khan. At age 19, Jai moved to California to become a student of Khansahib's for traditional voice training, as well as to learn the sarod, a 25-stringed Indian instrument. He later traveled to India where he was deeply inspired by the Bauls, the wandering street musicians of Bengal. Jai settled among them, communicating only through music, which ultimately helped establish his unique style.
The combination of Jai's exceptional vocals and exotic instrumentation produced a new and captivating sound. His depth of work has further defined him as a pioneer on the cutting edge of the world beat frontier.
Now to the song:
Here is one more for your listening pleasure
its beautiful peice based on Charukesi(I may be corrected on this) very touching with a wonderful lead of clarinet/oboe?.
Enjoy this song
and ur comments please...(swami,comment are busy today i guess)
http://www.triloka.com/artists/jaiuttal/music/jumk1.m3u
The song name is Monkey (Hanuman) -by Jai Uttal
PS I am not is PR he!he! but spellbound rasika of his music
- From: UV (@ 134.113.201.48)
on: Tue Mar 6 13:54:57 EST 2001
friends
did anyone of you managed to get the soundfonts work correctly.
Let me know. I have SBLIVE in my pc
i will try today and let u guys know.
cheers :)
- From: kiru (@ 192.138.149.4)
on: Tue Mar 6 17:11:30 EST 2001
UV,
I think you want to compare Jai with IR. They both were/are doing the same but approaching from different ends of the spectrum. IR had it not been for his love for WCM would have done something like this. He betrays his appreciation for rock in quite a few songs, I think. For eg. in iLa nenjE vA, there's a flute which almost sounds like the electric guitar. but I may be wrong. Atleast IR is the one I know who has exhaustively used drums (eg. puthiya rAgam movie songs) and electric guitar (too many examples of how he has been able to generate ethnic sounds with this instrument). (I know..know rock is not just drums and electric guitar).
- From: rjay (@ 208.51.40.115)
on: Tue Mar 6 18:42:30 EST 2001
Talking about generating ethnic sounds from Electric guitar, look for an artist called
Ali Farka Toure - a guitarist from Africa. He
plays folk from his native place and you will be
amazed at how much he sounds like mandolin srinivas. Search for his "Karaw" composition from
his Neofunkte album and you will be in for a surprise!
- From: Aditya (@ 24.4.252.137)
on: Wed Mar 7 21:39:32 EST 2001
Hi Srikanth and Swamiji:
Again a question on Korg Triton. I didnot see any buttons like Main, Intro A, etc., ( even on Karma, they call it Generated Effects rather than user patterns, I don't know what it means )
In case we have to play Triton in a live performance how would you typically use. RRPR feature - is it a way to work around without those buttons. I am convinced with the features that it can be used as a composition assistant ( may be in a studio ) but just to use it in a live show how friendly it's?
Also can you explain about it's RRPR feature in our scenario?
Regards,
Aditya
- From: comment (@ 63.225.173.91)
on: Thu Mar 8 02:18:55 EST 2001
Aditya,
Main/intro etc are found only in lower end keyboards. Mind it, Korg Triton is a music work station/sampler, You can create your own sound, beat, intro etc. It is an 100% professional keyboard. You need to know about music work stations to exploit it. It is big time buy.
you can buy it...
1. If you are serious about your music, and you have good knowleged of workstations, music production and composing.
2. if you have lots of extra money .;)
If you just want to sequence film songs or play film songs on stage, a casio ctk or an yamaha psr model will do.
Karma is different technology, they create this user patterns dynamically while you play something, where us the lower end casios/yamahas as preprogrammed. More over with Korg-Karma you can control and program it the way you want.
after seeing korg-karma, I felt Triton is much superior keyboard.
Now RRPR= REAL TIME PATTERN PLAY/RECORDING.
You can create a pattern using any instrument assigned to a particular midi channel.
often it is a drum patch, create a drum pattern and you can assign this pattern to any key in the keyboard. this can be recalled when needed
in the sequencer mode. When RRPR is on when you hit the key this pattern is played.
It helps us a lot in live shows, I can create pattern for pallavi, saranam, etc and assign to certain set of keys, play them when needed.
This one the best feature of korg-triton.
I think I already mentioned this - triton works better in a studio environment.
- From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 12.89.141.230)
on: Thu Mar 8 03:40:09 EST 2001
Srikanth,
RRPR is available in YAMAHA PSR 640 (low end priced at $ 799/-. It is called Multipad. You can put user defined patterns with drums, chords etc. When you have the accompniment On, the pattern will play based on the chord.
I use it for live play all the time.
- From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 12.89.141.230)
on: Thu Mar 8 03:53:25 EST 2001
Comment,
Looks like Aditya uses Yamaha keyboards. In PSR 640, you could create your own grooves. This includes 2 drum channels, 2 chord channels, 1 bass channel, 2 phrase channels. You can program Main, Intro, fill-in on your own. Not preprogrammed. This your own programming. When I used to play live, I programmed the drum pattern for songs like "Roaja Poo Aadi Vandhadu", "Chandranai Thotadhu Yaar Armstronga". When I changed the chords, the chord pattern will change dynamically. There are different trigger rules I could set. Like for on Chord change , "return to ROOT", "retrigger pattern' etc.
Very powerful machine for live performance.
- From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 12.89.141.230)
on: Thu Mar 8 04:06:56 EST 2001
Comment,
You said,
"Now RRPR= REAL TIME PATTERN PLAY/RECORDING.
You can create a pattern using any instrument assigned to a particular midi channel.
often it is a drum patch, create a drum pattern and you can assign this pattern to any key in the keyboard. this can be recalled when needed
in the sequencer mode. When RRPR is on when you hit the key this pattern is played. "
This whole thing is possible with Yamaha PSR-640 which costs $7999/-.
The difference between this and Korg Triton, is the samples available. You pay money for the samples. The drums kits in Triton are more etc.
- From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 12.89.141.230)
on: Thu Mar 8 04:07:08 EST 2001
Comment,
You said,
"Now RRPR= REAL TIME PATTERN PLAY/RECORDING.
You can create a pattern using any instrument assigned to a particular midi channel.
often it is a drum patch, create a drum pattern and you can assign this pattern to any key in the keyboard. this can be recalled when needed
in the sequencer mode. When RRPR is on when you hit the key this pattern is played. "
This whole thing is possible with Yamaha PSR-640 which costs $799/-.
The difference between this and Korg Triton, is the samples available. You pay money for the samples. The drums kits in Triton are more etc.
- From: Aditya (@ 160.231.1.249)
on: Thu Mar 8 09:09:20 EST 2001
Srikanth:
Thanks for your Explanation on how to decide on buying Korg Triton.
I am certainly not looking for just an instrument to sequence and play film songs - but looking for an instrument definitely for a live performance. Either creating a new song, or playing an existing one, I give equal importance. Imagine performing "Peacock Dance" on Stage and doing things live ( ofcourse with a good practice ) - as an artist it's a great challenge and audience derive ultimate happiness. Anyway this is my personal choice.
I know the kind of freedom that exists in studio but neverthless live performance is another ball game altogether. I personally feel that a musician becomes very disciplined by playing in a live performance as he has to do present the music once and as perfectly as possible. And also playing some of the film songs in a live performance is not at all an easy task. And also playing your own created song in live itself is not easy sometimes. Look at ARR how he played his own film songs live - All said and done it's a wonderful experience altogether for the artist/composer/audience.
I know we can't have a big orchestra playing for us all the time as we aren't in business to coordinate such things all the time.
Yes I use Yamaha PSR keyboard.
Regards,
Aditya
- From: comment (@ 63.225.173.91)
on: Thu Mar 8 10:06:29 EST 2001
sridhar, yes yamaha has a small time rrpr, triton has got more routing, efx control, beat control, etc. I can use this on any sequece etc etc...tritons ability is much much more,thats why it is sold for $2300. :)
- From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 12.89.140.20)
on: Thu Mar 8 10:27:14 EST 2001
Comment,
Absolutely. The effects, samples make the difference in price.
It is just performance/value evaluation. I wanted Aditya to be aware that the features required for a live performance are available on lower end keyboards like Yamaha PSR 640/ 740. Yamaha PSR-640 is a good choice for live performance. It is definitely not a studio keyboard.
- From: comment (@ 63.225.173.91)
on: Thu Mar 8 10:27:32 EST 2001
aditya, I agree, playing live is the best for an artist.
And you can use triton live shows,
backstreet, nsync, britney, phil collins are few know i know who are using triton on a live stage,
The rule is we need to a know it well.
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