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HJ vs ARR

Topic started by Pras (@ 193.56.241.19) on Fri Jan 25 10:28:19 EST 2002.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

With all these crap threads on IR vs ARR, whereas they cannot be compared, why shouldn't we discuss about HJ and ARR ??
Same style of music, same instruments ...
So, do you guys think that HJ is better than ARR ?
In fact, with the latest super hit of ARR, we can think so ...
HCARRFans ... it's all in the game ....

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• From: cho (@ 172.155.162.105) on: Sun Dec 21 10:16:46 EST 2003
  
  Piratheepan,
  choice of music is indeed a learning thing and it also depends on your exposure. If you never listened to a kind of music before in your life, you wouldn't know anything about it. Sure not many people are talking about IR's konji pesalam and I wasn't either. All I was saying was that a good song should be liked by almost everyone. It should have that quality. I am sure that you will agree with me that a lot of IR's songs have that quality. He used to give hits after hits before but now is being a bit selective bcos of many things. People in newtfmpage make the mistake of comparing current IR's form with others. He is over 60 years old but he is still producing great music and not afraid of experimenting (I am referring to his work in virumaandi) and we should be proud and happy about that, but unfortunately no body is seeing that. ARR is 36 years old now and do you think he will survive in the music industry for another 25 years??
  
  Ilayaraja's music is like 'kalyana saappadu'. Nidhanamaaga rasithu ketka vendum. ARR's music is like 'fast food'. Kettuttu poikkittae irukkanum.
  
  
• From: Piratheepan (@ 68.88.252.224) on: Sun Dec 21 11:20:37 EST 2003
  
  nah i see nuthing new in IR music.He is more of a mass guy...whereas ARR is a world mass guy.You step outside of India where u have second generation kids living in states etc who hate indian music...yet the only indian guy theyll listen to is ARR.
  
  no i dont think a good song is one everyone adores.its cool if it does but it loses somethin when its a song for everyone....with the exception of melodious numbers.
  yes i think ARR can last another 25 yrs.so ur analysis of ARR and IR doesnt hold true for me. I prefer to see it as more of two different type of food. You can like one more then the other or like both, whatever, but either way food is food and food is good.=P
  
  
• From: * (@ 161.114.64.74) on: Sun Dec 21 12:19:52 EST 2003
  
  >>>You step outside of India where u have second generation kids living in states etc who hate indian music...yet the only indian guy theyll listen to is ARR. >>He is more of a mass guy....ARR is a world mass guy<<<
  Define mass guy and world mass guy. Are you calling ARR a world mass guy because some indian expats can relate to his music? It merely makes him an idol for expats. Full stop. Nothing more.
  (Dont bring usual cow-crap like he did projects in London, US - that doesnt make him a world-mass guy - no native Britisher or a Londonner listens to ARR all his life!)
  
  
• From: * (@ 161.114.64.74) on: Sun Dec 21 12:21:46 EST 2003
  
  ----You step outside of India where u have second generation kids living in states etc who hate indian music...yet the only indian guy theyll listen to is ARR. ---
  
  Piratheepan,
  The criteria for appreciation varies for these second generation fellows and the real Indians who grew up with Indian music and its nuances. Naturally the choices will differ.
  
  ----He is more of a mass guy....ARR is a world mass guy---
  Define mass guy and world mass guy. Are you calling ARR a world mass guy because some indian expats can relate to his music? It merely makes him an idol for expats. Full stop. Nothing more than that. No need to squeal out grandiose generalizations like world mass guy!
  (Dont bring usual cow-crap like he did projects in London, US - that doesnt make him a world-mass guy - no native Britisher or American listens to ARR all his life, just his world appealed to indians in those countries, thats all!)
  
  
• From: Piratheepan (@ 68.88.252.224) on: Sun Dec 21 13:32:29 EST 2003
  
  mass guy IR means his songs appeal to only Tamils i mean
  
  world mass ARR = any desi ppl and sum outsiders too.No native britsher has heard of him?ummmm then why is there talk of bombay dreams etc?those who are into musicals kno of him becuz of it.ppl here in texas kno his chaiya chaiya song cuz sum arab guy used it in his commercial abt 2 years after its release.
  
  Yaariku IR theriyum?
  
  Summa paisatha.U can get ARR's Bombay Dreams,Vandhe Mathram and WOHE here in the regular store here in US.the only others u canget is the classical ppl like that tabla guy and ravi shankar at barnes and nobles.
  
  
• From: * (@ 161.114.64.74) on: Mon Dec 22 08:53:20 EST 2003
  
  Plizzzzzz, rent out some common sense, read my post 2-3 times, then talk. I'm tired of re-phrasing and doing precis-writing my own posts 2/3 times to make u grasp the bare facts!
  
  my stmt: "no native Britisher or American listens to ARR all his life"
  ur interpretation: "No native britsher has heard of him"
  EGAD!!
  
  ---"U can get ARR's Bombay Dreams,Vandhe Mathram and WOHE here in the regular store here in US"
  no big deal, expat indians listen to him, whatever makes you think a dyed-in-the-wool foreigner is hooked to his music??? They have authentic artists in their genre, they dont have to accept his cultural mish-mash. As it is, the yanks cant distinguish Indians from Bangladeshis or Middle East peeps, leave alone Indian music!
  
  
  
• From: Piratheepan (@ 67.65.163.53) on: Mon Dec 22 10:00:56 EST 2003
  
  u plz read my comments and think at least 50 times before u speak.
  
  u were blabbering abt british ppl etc listening to ARR cuz i said ARR is world mass....yet u didnt even know wat i meant by world mass.Oh but comming back to ur point if native british ppl dont listen to his music then why did they buy Bombay Dreams?....sure ur going to say andrew webber...oh wait isnt he a native british guy? i didnt say they were hooked u fool.i said theyve heard of him. and kno one outside of india knows who IR is unless they have left india and are thamil.and the second generation kids dont kno who IR is but they kno who ARR.
  
  Telling me u need to rephrase....haha maybe u need to read.
  
  
• From: Maverick (@ 203.145.156.130) on: Mon Dec 22 10:06:44 EST 2003
  
  HJ vs ARR yelaam bore paa.
  namma MCG la India vs Aus pathi pesalaame. brett lee recalled aame 3rd test kku. anga kooda yetho 'chin music' pathi pesaraanga aussies. intha chin music pathi unga karuthukkal yenna ? chin music composers (like mcgrath, brett lee) la unga favourites yaaru. chin music audience (sourav, azhar) pathi konjam sollunga.
  
  
• From: Maverick (@ 203.145.156.130) on: Mon Dec 22 10:11:54 EST 2003
  
  Gabba test la sourav kku namma aussies chin music compose panna poi padu flop aaiduche. athula irunthu avanga thaan facing the music of laxman-dravid symphony. athanaal adutha test kku super chin music composer 'perattu' lee recall panni irukaanga nnu 'boccavaayan' bucchanan sonaaru
  
  
• From: Chin~Payyan (@ 61.95.159.16) on: Mon Dec 22 10:13:24 EST 2003
  
  enakku therinjathellam Shawn Michaels-in 'Sweet Chin Music'!! ... athukkum ithukkum ethaavathu relation irukkaapa??!
  
  current Chin music composer-la best vanthu Akthar and Lee...Chin music audience-la best namma aalu Ganguly thaan ... inna solreenga?
  
  
• From: Maverick (@ 203.124.208.194) on: Mon Dec 22 10:21:43 EST 2003
  
  Antha kaalathula Azhar kekaath chin music aa? aana yennanaa, avru omrba neram kekka maataru, udane dressing room poiduvaaru.
  kadasiyaa solli vechaa maathiri oru statement viduvaaru
  
  "We batted badly, bowled badly, fielded badly..."
  
  
• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.234.99 (@ ) on: Sun Jan 11 16:11:25 EST 2004
  
  I would say HJ is 1000 times better than ARR.
  ARR survived in the past just coz of HJ was a keyboard player with him.After HJ left ARR sucks in all his albums.
  HJ is the GOD of ARR.
  
  
• From: jacky ...LOL! (@ 61.1.202.116) on: Sun Jan 11 17:16:39 EST 2004
  
  
  amam chin music la best lee and aktar than, aana sila samyam aktar will be a samosa without masala against gilchrist and sachin :)
  
  
• From: jacky ...LOL! (@ 61.1.202.116) on: Sun Jan 11 17:21:09 EST 2004
  
  Fun-stuff.
  
  Q: What is the height of optimism?
  A: Ganguly coming out to bat applying sunscreen on his face.
  
  Q: What did the spectator miss when he went to the toilet?
  A: The entire Indian innings.
  
  Q: What is the Indian version of a hat-trick?
  A: 3 runs in 3 bls
  
  Q: When would Ganguly have 100 runs against his name?
  A: When he is bowling.
  
  Q: Where do Indian Batsman perfrom there best?
  A: In Advertisments.
  
  
• From: mir (@ 220.247.221.147) on: Sun Jan 11 22:03:07 EST 2004
  
  "I would say ARR is 1000 times better than IR.
  IR survived in the past just coz of ARR was a keyboard player with him.After ARR left IR sucks in all his albums. ARR is the GOD of IR".
  
  An arr fan too can claim like this...If u want others to believe ur rhetoric then even a typical ARR fan can type such a rhetoric for others to believe.
  
  
• From: x (@ 156.153.254.42) on: Mon Jan 12 03:28:10 EST 2004
  
  Ya "ARR is 1000 times better than IR" as he is NO more in TFM. Good for Tamil Film and India too. The junk music is Listened by so called world mass NRI's. Who really don't know what is a culture? and that to indian culture and tradition they are zero, everything they do like a film shooting style. so what ever they come across say as their own Indians and Indian Music. Which is how arr got popular.sad
  
  
• From: Aswathama (@ 68.58.124.250) on: Mon Jan 12 12:25:49 EST 2004
  
  ARR was very popular yesteryears until Harris Jeyaraj was a keyboard player for him. When Harris left ARR all hell went loose. No more hits only recycles. Kangalal Kaithi Sei was the only decent album that too was tuned when Harris was with him. Sad for ARR.
  
  
• From: virus (@ 81.185.202.156) on: Mon Jan 12 15:57:17 EST 2004
  
  Hahahhaah
  Aswathama poi sullurathaiyum konja paathu sollunga Aswathama kks padam poojai podum pottathu 2002-il but harris jeyraj left 2000.
  
  
• From: virus (@ 81.185.202.156) on: Mon Jan 12 15:58:16 EST 2004
  
  Hahahhaah
  Aswathama poi sullurathaiyum konja paathu sollunga Aswathama kks padam poojai pottathu 2002-il but harris jeyraj left 2000.
  
  

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