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Karthikeyan Nagarajan | April 24, 2004 11:12 IST
http://in.rediff.com/movies/2004/apr/24rahman.htm
When I heard that the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra had asked A R Rahman to conduct two live concerts in March this year, I was very happy and proud as an Indian and a Tamilian.
Earlier, I had felt proud in 1993 when Ilayaraja had recorded his first classical orchestral work with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra of London. I was executive producer of that project.
It was Ilayaraja's first full-fledged classical work and it was recorded under the baton of John Scott. Unfortunately, Ilayaraja has still not released that work.
Hence to know that another composer from our midst has come to the world music arena was thrilling news. Rarely do musicians from our part of the world get such an opportunity.
But it was a big fiasco.
Rahman's popular film songs were converted into orchestral scores to be played by a classical symphony orchestra. They proved to be pale shadows of his original songs. And the predominantly Indian crowd did not appreciate them much.
It was obvious that not much thought had gone into the score. The objective should have been to retain the original melodic flavour suited to a symphony orchestra without electronic instruments and vocals.
Greater disappointment was his total non-preparation for conducting on stage. I consider that highly irresponsible. If Rahman thought conducting a symphony orchestra in concert was similar to a studio session, the people who risked allowing him to do it should be blamed.
I am surprised he has not fully understood the importance of the role of a conductor in a classical symphony orchestra.
Conducting is one of the most important aspects in a classical orchestra's live performance. People like Zubin Mehta have not become legends for nothing. Zubin is one of those rare talents who will conduct even the most difficult and complex symphonies like Mahler's 8th Symphony -- called the Symphony of a Thousand because Mahler's original debut concert required nearly 1,000 performers-musicians and choral groups -- without once referring to the score. Every bar of music is conducted from his memory, with total control and confidence of the orchestra.
As someone who has spent a lot of time on the UK music circuit over the last few years, I assumed Rahman would have done his homework and prepared the music as well as for his new role as conductor of a live concert, that too with a top-notch orchestra like the CBSO.
Rahman should have reminded himself that he was going to wield the baton of Sir Simon Rattle, who became CBSO conductor at 25 (in 1980) and made it one of the best orchestras in the world.
As a BBC reviewer wrote, "I cannot help feeling cheated by the concert. Though the orchestra were highly organised, Rahman seemed slightly uninterested to be there. Audience reactions were also mixed. The audiences were given opportunity to ask him questions to which he often replied with one-word answers. Rahman did conduct the orchestra for a short period, but later sat back with the audience and watched another conduct his music."
As with anywhere else in the West, most orchestras are going through a difficult time with dwindling concert attendances and slow music sales. Add to this the problem of population remix among local patrons.
By 2020, for example, Birmingham is tipped to become the first black majority city in UK. Now, its population is a mix of Asians, Africans and Chinese apart from the native whites.
Hence, orchestras are ready to try anything to bring people into the concert halls. And collaborations with musicians from Asia, titled Classic Asia, are part of the mission.
For the 84 year-old CBSO, it must have been a momentous, difficult decision. They took it because their survival depends on their ability to chart new paths.
With his exposure to the UK music industry through his collaboration with Andrew Lloyd Webber, it was not a surprise that Rahman got the project.
But his botching it up is.
I believe Rahman has not been able to transcend the barrier where his own singing and others are vital for his musical pieces. Obviously, there is an inability to compose music free of the composer/performer. He seems to have attempted something for which he is not yet ready intellectually.
In the end it was totally disappointing.
Rahman's confession -- "I messed it up. Will come next time with much more preparation" -- does not redeem him at all.
Karthikeyan Nagarajan is a Chennai-based software technologist.
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- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.2.224.222)
on: Tue Apr 27 04:56:23 EDT 2004
Ferrari..understood... but please don't go overboard..then what's the diff between you and ppl like Ambleen.
Mullai mullal edukkanum means...ok.
Ambleen maari aalu kitta edhuvum sensible a panna mudiyaadhunnu ennake puriya aarambichachu...Hmmm.
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.2.224.222)
on: Tue Apr 27 04:57:48 EDT 2004
Don't call me 'ayya' and all.It looks sarcastic dude...:-)
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Tue Apr 27 04:59:11 EDT 2004
ok sir..:-D
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Tue Apr 27 05:00:34 EDT 2004
By the way, if someone has any links on the unbiased reason why things didnt click for ARR at CBSO please post it.
And if someone has the transcript of the interview in which ARR said about improving things, please post that too..
- From: Maverick (@ 195.212.29.83)
on: Tue Apr 27 05:08:06 EDT 2004
Mortein seems to work !!!!
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Tue Apr 27 05:08:38 EDT 2004
:-)))))
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.202.123)
on: Tue Apr 27 05:36:26 EDT 2004
Oh,Ambleen oditaara?
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.202.123)
on: Tue Apr 27 05:39:47 EDT 2004
Ferrari,
Rahman has to perform two concerts at CBSO,Right?
The second one is based on a persian poem written in 12th century i heard..What happened to that?Is it going to happen?or happened already,or not going to happen at all(Hope this Q doesn't get an yes)
Expecting ARR to thrash all those brick-bats on him.
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Tue Apr 27 05:42:52 EDT 2004
Thamizhan,
I am sorry about what I said. I just wanted to let him know how he responds and did something in similar fashion. But I don't think that helped in any way. Sorry. You saw the replies for yourself. "Araicha Maavu". Do you think that deserves anything better?
- From: ambleen (@ 203.117.10.18)
on: Tue Apr 27 05:56:13 EDT 2004
To the hypocrites(aka some arr fans...seems like its growing),
After all the drama acts on good ol' 'suddenly i'm the nice guy here', 'what did i say wrong', 'i'm the victim here' etc is over, pls do come back to post on the original query w/o deviating. When u r ready with the answer we can talk again :)
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.201.98)
on: Tue Apr 27 05:58:43 EDT 2004
Yeah,Understood C~P,
eppadiyo Ambleen had great time manipulating ARR fans' emotions by his stupid rubbish comments.That itself proves his character.
ippathaane inga vandirukaen,but understood a lot that sensiblity can't be the answer for insensible ppl like Ambleen.
Vaanga HJ threadla poi yedhavadhu kalaasallam,Arul la yedho Ctrl+C,ctrl+V work yellam irukkamae ,kaeteengala?
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:05:19 EDT 2004
Thamizhan,
"eppadiyo Ambleen had great time manipulating ARR fans' emotions by his stupid rubbish comments."
Che che...timepass dhaan ellam...oru entertainment. Edho oru kadanukkaga oru serious post senjaen naethi. Adhayum thappu thappa dissect pannirundhaaru. Adhaan rendu line pesinoma, nakkal adichomaanu poikittae irukkardhu! :-)
Arul. Adhula orey oru paattu dhaan kaetaaen. Sahikkala! Adhu dhaan Raaga-la No.1! :-)
"Arul la yedho Ctrl+C,ctrl+V work yellam irukkamae"
HJ-ku idhellam sagajamappa! :-)
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.201.98)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:05:30 EDT 2004
Ayoh,naan post panrathukkula Ambleen......
'Ready with answer'...'coming again'....Hahaha...'Original Query..'
Ppl think,what's serious
A MD being passive to some comments which praised him a more than what he deserves
(or)
A MD showing his ego to Dirs,A MD who didn't even care to meet the Dir,who came to his house,jus t because that Dir used some other composer for his 'Breezy' film.
Idhukellam Ambleen answer panna maataar.
His post will continue like..
Hypocrites....come up with answers etc...Exam vachu mark podraar namalukku.Hmmmm.Clowns deserve nothing much than this.
- From: Jacky - sirpu varuthu sipu varuthu sirika sirika :) (@ 61.1.202.69)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:07:50 EDT 2004
Mathipirkuriya Ambleen Avargaley!
Kaliyelerunthu Balu thevar, ARR, mozart nu pesikondirukirirkal.
ARR seythathu tharakavey erukattum.
Ennaku oru sandheykam, Ilayaraja enbathu avar peyar, Raga devan enbathu avar padithu vangiya pattama?
if you dig into hindu Mythology Naradar is only called Raga devan, appo IR allow panrathu thappu illaya?
Osama bin laden ulaga amaithiya patthi pesalama?
Pot calling the kettle ellam padichathillaya?
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:14:01 EDT 2004
Thamizhan,
"Hypocrites....come up with answers etc..."
Thiruvilayadal paarthirukeengala?
"Naaney kaekkaraen. enakku kaekkathaan theriyum"-nu Dharmi solluvaarey, adhu maadhiri dhaan idhuvum!
Jacky,
"if you dig into hindu Mythology Naradar is only called Raga devan, appo IR allow panrathu thappu illaya?"
Hypocrite. Come up with an answer. ARR=Mozart=Taal!
:-))
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:16:24 EDT 2004
Sabaash...Hijack gumbal serious aa pesudhu.
Sabaash...
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:20:03 EDT 2004
Naan vandha dhaan ellarum theliva pesa aaramikkareenga! :-D
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