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- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74)
on: Thu Jun 12 05:46:03 EDT 2003
thanks OISG,
bb,
Is it MSV who appears as MD in this movie ? I thought its somebody else :-/
Lyrics : Vaalee ?
NagaS
- From: raja m (@ 24.44.133.72)
on: Thu Jun 12 05:52:45 EDT 2003
A nice peppy duet by TMS & LRE. Server Sundaram was one enjoyable movie - totally dominated by Nagesh.
Was KB the director (or writer?), MSV looks young in his suit with the orchestra - I remember Manisekaran writing that MD Veda was also seen in this song.
Remember the other great song Poga Poga theriyum -by PS and PBS -a true TFM classic, shot around Marina Beach.
One more classic duet from PS and PBS photographed around Marina Beach is Enna Paarvai from Kaadalikka Neram Illai.(this time in color - Marina Beach looks so clean).
- From: raja m (@ 24.44.133.72)
on: Thu Jun 12 07:03:12 EDT 2003
should have been PS and KJY singing Enna Paarvai
- From: venkat (@ 66.185.85.78)
on: Thu Jun 12 07:10:36 EDT 2003
Catch up for two days. pani... EK is one IR's all time bigs! (I always used to listen the songs 100 times, at least, before venturing inside the cinema hall and this one may be 500 times), unheeding to the warnings of my friends, I went to see this movie. I closed my eyes half way through and listened to the great BGM. There are a couple of fight sequences, I remember one on floating logs, where Nivas' visuals/IR's BGM were stunners. Suman/Sumalatha may be one of the tallest pairs of those days. As a movie this should be consigned to /dev/null. If someone can grep all the BGM, it will be great.
Otty malaik... lyrics: Ganagai Amaran.
{digression}Non-music
This movie, dubbed in telugu was a great hit. Suman went on to become no.1 there. He made a reentry in Tamil; Messed up with MGR's right hand Udayar's daughter > ended up in jail. Greatest embarrassment to his mom, who was the principal of Ethiraj (or another Women's) College :){/digression}
Sevvanthi pUkkaLil > MD:IR. Uma Ramanan starts the song great "kUvina pUngkuil, kUvina kOzhi, kurukukaL iyambina, iyambina sangam..." Another potential SOTD.
Today's : Great peppy number. Balaji, AFAIK, this song is not direct copy of anything, it is an inspired song and MSV/TKR did their best to keep it original. Several bits in this song can be traced to Bill Halley and the Comets.
Kannadhasan appears in this song as the conductor of the orchestra.
- From: raj (@ 12.30.122.10)
on: Thu Jun 12 07:39:52 EDT 2003
Nagas Semmene Semmene is by P.Jayachandran
Unnimenon's Debut was in OLru kaithiyin Dairy as Vijay
Re-Entry in Roja
Reg Today's Song
This is the First song for Vaali in AVM's Banner..
It's an Excellent peppy number..
a different usage og Wordings like "oh azhagu oru magic switch " etc.. which was a great hit those Days.
& as bb mentioned LRE's singing of "andru kaadhalan vandhan kaatrodu....." is amazing
thanks bb for such a wonderful song
Kannadasan doest appear in this song
it's young MSV who appears
& Story is by KB directed by Krishnan panju
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Thu Jun 12 07:44:55 EDT 2003
No Venkat.It IS MSV who appears as the conductor of the orch.
On Suman - When I was doing +2 at Bishop Heber HS Trichy,my commerce teacher by name Ramasamy used to look like Suman.An avid sportsfan,he used to officiate football matches.(Later he officated Fed cup i believe)Due to his Suman looks and interest in sports we used to refer him as
"ViLayattu Payyan".(Mozhi peyarpathu thavaru!)in our conversations!
- From: raj (@ 12.30.122.10)
on: Thu Jun 12 08:15:30 EDT 2003
suman was really smart.. there was a craze for him too .. Tall .. with lot of hair
- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74)
on: Thu Jun 12 08:43:25 EDT 2003
Oops ...
raj, thanks for the info on unni menon, But are you sure that there is only one version of semmeenee in that movie 'sevvanthi' ? I remember seeing 'unni menon's name in the cassette cover :-/
NagaS
- From: raj (@ 12.30.122.10)
on: Thu Jun 12 09:03:00 EDT 2003
only one version of that song & it is by PJ
unnimenon sang under IR only in TIMe after a long gap
- From: other_side (@ 209.166.128.18)
on: Thu Jun 12 09:42:53 EDT 2003
the other nice song in sevanthi was
"poonai vana poonguiley
poo magaley vaa,
kanni thamizh kaviriye , then mozhiye vaa"
by arul mozhi
- From: raj (@ 12.30.122.10)
on: Thu Jun 12 09:44:54 EDT 2003
by Arunmozhi & Swarnalatha
Semmene was by PJ&sunandha
- From: Pal (@ 199.43.32.21)
on: Thu Jun 12 10:04:01 EDT 2003
raja_m: Krishnan-Panju are the directors of Server Sundaram. KB involved in story and screenplay.
- From: doubter (@ 208.142.210.1)
on: Thu Jun 12 10:35:40 EDT 2003
I don't this type of composing was ever attempted afterwards. Look at this. The original song is:
avaLukkenna azagiya mugam
avanukkenna iLagiya manan
nilavukkenna iravinil varum
iravukkenna uRavugaL tharum
uravukkenna uyiruLLavarai thodarndhu varum
This was paraphrased into
avaLukkenna
azagiya mugam avanukkenna
iLagiya manan nilavukkenna
iravinil varum iravukkenna
uRavugaL tharum uravukkenna
uyiruLLavarai thodarndhu varum
Creativity at its peak!!!
- From: GCT_Kuil (@ 67.112.201.218)
on: Thu Jun 12 10:52:50 EDT 2003
BB, thanks for this great song. TMS voice matches well for Naagesh. I think Naagesh's dance was appreciated those days! Naagesh acting will also be superb...
Nagas, I could recollect 4 more songs from this movie. Except this one song others are written by Kannadaasan and this one is by Vaale. The other songs are
1. Silaiyeduththan Oru Chinna Pennnnukku (PS for KRV) - I could rememember this song was picturized in Mahabaliburam.
2. Paatondru tharuvaaar paadadiyamma (PS, LRE for KRV and ???)
3. Pooga Pooga Theriyum Intha Poovin (PBS, PS for Muthuraaman and KRV)
4. Thaththai Nenjam (PS for KRV??) - Couldnt recollect more words from this song and donno the situation too!
Other_Side and Raj, thanks guys for those links..Those mallu tamil songs are good...I have never heard them. Thanks again for providing me with the pointers...Raj, aama I studied in GCT (1995 pass out), College meela ulla oru pattru thaan ;-)
- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ 195.188.191.86)
on: Thu Jun 12 12:01:29 EDT 2003
EK is a class album indeed !!! Thanks for the song bb.
'avaLukenna' had Ganesh (of the SG fame) playing the bongos. The songs ends with a bongo flourish !!!
- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Thu Jun 12 12:34:39 EDT 2003
"As a movie this should be consigned to /dev/null. If someone can grep all the BGM, it will be great."
venkat :-)))
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.252.86)
on: Thu Jun 12 13:22:03 EDT 2003
Ratin- GCT okay, aanaa Kuil? Nalla Paaduveengala?
Thathai nenjam muthathilae thithithathaa illaya- the Punnagai Arasi looking oh so pretty- slim and coy, singing of her love, with the parrot echoing her words- Sadan doing the parrot!
Avalukkenna is an amazing song-TMS’s ‘Switchchch’ including! Only LRE could have carried off this song- with inimitable munnazhagu and pinnazhagu! The dance was a real zing one- (forgot the name of the actress) -SV Ranga Rao calling the shots is also worth remembering.
- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Thu Jun 12 13:27:11 EDT 2003
SV Ranga Rao calling the shots?
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.252.86)
on: Thu Jun 12 13:36:09 EDT 2003
Aamaam- the song is part of a film shooting, in which Nagesh is the hero, and the song recording (with MSV & TMS) is shown first. Then we have Nagesh and the actress dancing, with SVR in the director's chair, filming the song.
- From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170)
on: Thu Jun 12 13:41:44 EDT 2003
Avalukkenna is a song sequence shot for a film in which nagesh is the actor. SV Ranga Rao acts as the director of the film. There are some comedy sequences involving sv ranga rao, nagesh and manorama. (The female who dances in avalukenna later appeared in lot of tuesday dd dramas).
- From: Ramki (@ 161.150.2.31)
on: Thu Jun 12 13:46:01 EDT 2003
The female actress is githanjali
- From: raja m (@ 24.44.133.72)
on: Thu Jun 12 14:02:08 EDT 2003
thanks for the info, pal :-)
- From: isai nanban (@ 65.176.169.146)
on: Thu Jun 12 17:03:03 EDT 2003
If you group IR movies by style Aradhanai, Moodupani, Enakkaga Kaathiru could be grouped together.The "Mist" effect well brought out in the songs of these 3 movies.
OISG: You got it! include Nenjathai Killathey too. The kkoolir nd Mist effect. Aradhani and EK are more strong in those mellow feelings!
- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74)
on: Fri Jun 13 00:05:54 EDT 2003
Thanks Raj & GCT_Kuyil (naanum GCT-thaan sir, 1994-98 batch !),
Sorry for the wrong info abt. sevvandhi and unni menon (Achcho, thappaa oru arththam varuthee :-D
NagaS
- From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52)
on: Fri Jun 13 00:10:40 EDT 2003
Song of the Day: vEru idam thEdip pOvaaLO from sila nErangaLil sila manidhargaL.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/veruidam.rm
Saravanan writes on this song in the Vani Jayaram thread:
86. Veru Idam thedi povaalo- Sila nerangalil sila manithargal- MSV
Jayakanthan’s story,crafted in celluloid by A Bhimsigh. Starred Srikanth, Lakshmi, Nagesh (wonderful cameo), Sundaribai, Rajasulochana, Sukumari and YGP.
1977 was the year when I got to see my first film in a theatre (Aatukkara Alamelu-How I enjoyed it!!) I did go to SNSM, tagging along my parents, (Leo theatre, Chennai), but couldn’t follow head or tail of the proceedings, and expressed my disgust by going to sleep. It took me many years to appreciate this masterpiece - I saw it on DD when I was much older. It remains a milestone in the annals of Tamil cinema.
Conventionality is not morality. Self-righteousness is not religion. To attack the first is not to assail the last. To pluck the mask from the face of the Pharisee is not to lift an impious hand to the Crown of Thorns. These things and deeds are diametrically opposed: they are as distinct as is vice from virtue. We too often confound them-they should not be confounded. Appearance should not be mistaken for truth. Narrow human doctrines, that only tend to elate and magnify a few, should not be substituted for the world-redeeming creed of Christ. There is a difference; and it is a good, and not a bad action to mark broadly and clearly the line of separation between them.
The world may not like to see these ideas dissevered, for it has been accustomed to blend them; finding it convenient to make external show pass for sterling worth-to let whitewashed walls vouch for shrines. It may hate him who dares to scrutinise and expose, to raise the gilding and exhibit the base metal beneath, to penetrate the sepulchre and reveal charnel relics; but hate as it will, it is indebted to him.
There is such a writer in our own days-Jayakanthan (birth 24.4.1934)- He is a glittering star in the firmament of Tamil literature. A trendsetter in many ways, he was the natural successor of Pudumaipithan and will forever remain the role model for all future writers.
His forays into the film world have been limited, but he has left an indelible mark and brought a refreshing whiff of realism into the melodramatic portals of Kodambakkam.
His first film Unnai Pol Oruvan-1965 fetched the President’s Award. His next was Yaarukkaga Azhudhaan-1966, which sank without a trace.
Surprisingly, A Bhimsingh, the Mughal of Melodrama in the 60s, did a volte-face in the 70s and thought it fit to film Jayakanthan’s novel ‘Sila Nerangalil Sila manithargal’. He expressed profound admiration for JK’s thorough professional approach and brilliant screenplay. The Bhimsingh-JK collaboration brought one more offbeat venture- ‘Oru Nadigai Nadagam Paarkiraal’- 1978. JK’s ‘Pudhu seruppu Kadikkum’ never saw the light of the day, which fate was shared by ‘Ethanai konam ethanai paarvai’.
Sila Nerangalil Sila Manidhargal was first published as a novel ( Meenakshi Puthaga Nilayam, Madurai-June 1970). It won the Sahitya Academy award in 1972.
I think Lakshmi got the ‘Urvashi’ award for her superbly realistic portrayal of Ganga, the chief protagonist of the tale.
However, the newly elected TN Govt.,which revived the State Awards, didn’t seem to be too enthusiastic about the film. See the award winners for 1977-78: 1st Best Film: 16 Vayathiniley, 2nd Best Film: Madhurageetham, 3rd Best Film: Balapareetchai!
And, with MGR at the helm, no prizes for guessing who bagged the best actress award- of course, it was Latha for ‘Maduraiyai meeta Sundarapandian’ (which came out in 1978).
Srividya got the Special award for ‘Madura Geetham’. 16 Vayathiniley made a clean sweep- with SJ, IR,Kamal and Bharathiraja collecting honours in the respective categories.
The only consolation for the film SNSM was the Award for the best kadhasiriyar to JK.
A bold story of a college student Ganga, who, one rainy evening, accepts a lift and allows herself to be seduced by a stranger in the back seat of his car- her life would never be the same again. Years later, she meets him, and they develop a platonic relationship- she is shunned by all, and in the end he too leaves her- where would she go now? What will she do next? - Lakshmi drapes over her shoulders the coat that Srikanth has left behind, and as she ruminates over her past, present and future, this song is heard as an asareeri from the aathmaa- and the film ends with the questions unanswered.
JK has written a handful of film songs, and all of them are memorable:
Thenankeetru oonjalile (Paadhai theriyudhu paar- PBS-SJ), Azhudha kanneerum paalaagumaa (Paadhai theriyudhu paar-PS), Kandathai sollugiren (SNSM-MSV), Veru idam thedi(SNSM-VJ), Nadigai paarkkum nadagam (ONNP-Jolly Abraham-BSS), Ethanai malargal (ONNP-TMS-VJ), Chithirappoo selai (Pudhu seruppu kadikkum-SPB), Udal enbaar (Pudhu seruppu kadikkum-VJ), Pugazh serkkum (Ethanai konam Ethanai paarvai-MVD), Enna Vithiyaasam (EKEP-MVD,GA) and Ethanai konam (EKEP-MVD).
Veru idam thedi poovaalo
Indha vedhanayil irundhu meezhvaalo
Nooru murai ival purappattaal
Vidhi noozhilayil ival agappattaal
Paruvamazhai pozhiya pozhiya
payir ellaam sezhikkaatho
Ival paruva mazhaiyaale vaazhkkai
paalaivanam aagiyathe
Tharuvadhanaal peruvathanaal
uravu thaambadhiyam aagaatho
ival tharavillai, peravillai
thanimaramaai aanaale
Siru vayathil seitha pizhai
siluvai ena sumakkindraal--
ival marupadiyum uyirppaalo?
malarenave mugippaalo?
VJ’s voice, as usual, slips effortlessly into the prescribed mood, and she lends a tragic touch to the philosophical lyrics. The significance of the words is clearly highlighted by the manner in which she prolongs some of them- ‘Povaalo’, ‘Sezhikaatho’, and the manner in which she lays emphasis on some of them- ‘vidhi’, ‘tharavillai, peravaillai’ shows rare comprehension. Throughout the song, she showers heart-warming compassion, that we are left with heavy hearts, long after the film ends, bemoaning the fate of the wretched Ganga.
- From: GCT_Kuil (@ 67.112.201.218)
on: Fri Jun 13 01:07:39 EDT 2003
Superb song! Enna BB, intha vaaratha sooga songlaa arambichu sooga songlaa mudichuteengala? ;-)
The name of the original short story by Jeyakanthan is not Sila Nerangalil Sila Manithargal. It is Agni Pravesham. I think this original short story was modified a little for the film! But not sure. I vaguely remember this movie having different ending than the one read in the short story! When this short story was written, it seems many people commented as - "puratichikaramaana thunivaanaa nadaimuraikku accept panna kuudiya oru story illa" nu! But Jayakanthan has told he liked this Ganga character and justified that this character was equivalent to Agaligai!
Is "Aandavan illa ulagam ethu ailasa, aasaigal illa ithayam ethu ailasa (TMS, VJ)", from this movie?
Saravanan, Not really! Can you please mail me your email id?
NagaS, you have already told me this :)
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