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Is YSR the new ARR?

Topic started by Madhav (@ 62.7.99.59) on Thu May 24 06:16:48 EDT 2001.
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It has been mentioned on more than one occasion that YSR is the MD who will take ARR's place. YSR has produced many hit albums lately using new, fresh and funky styles of music. I believe that this statement has been proved by Yuvan after Dheena, Rishi and Thulluvatho Ilamai. When compared to ARR's recent Thenali and Star we can see that YSR has taken the lead in this race to be the best. YSR has been signed for many new and exciting projects so I can see that he will be the block in ARR's attempt to regain his position as No.1 in TFM.
What are your thoughts on this?

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• From: arrfan (@ 203.200.15.20) on: Fri May 25 13:18:20 EDT 2001
  
  Note 1 thing -all of you-a person cannot get so much fame and acclaim with nothing to his credit-just look at the no. of awrds ARR has got-13 filmfare with 8(or 9) in a row,3 national,3 state awards,1(or 2)dinakaran awards,PADMASHRI,U.P govt. award,recently , even the U.S has awarded him for "the best M.D in bollywood"(i read this on sify.com).so i too feel that it will be long before anyone can = him.If sooooooooo many people appreciate him,he HAS to have some substance,right?All the deciding authorities(i mean for the awards)are not fools!
  
  
• From: lavanya (@ 62.7.9.203) on: Fri May 25 13:37:44 EDT 2001
  
  ARR fan, i wouldn't place too much value on the award deciding authorities(Look at the national awards this year!!!) I'm not saying that ARR has no substance, you are taking me wrong. I am simply saying that YSR is the new ARR.ARR was no.1 but as soon as he left TFM, YSR took that no.1 spot.
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 192.138.149.4) on: Fri May 25 14:10:18 EDT 2001
  
  I dont know about the NO 1 spot, but I think it is fair to say that people looking for 'trendy' music look towards Yuvan after ARR. He does have a competition now in Harris. But I think Harris is too ARRish, whereas Yuvan has given a variety of music in PKP, Rishi, Dheena and TI. I also think Yuvan's music has better 'flow' and/or 'spontaniety' than ARR or Harris. I agree with NagaS ARR hasn't done any song like 'nee illai enRal' - the energy, flow, youthfulness in that song is very impressive. The only area where Yuvan probably needs to work on is on 'interesting/complex' melodies, but I think he is gaining experience in this area, going by the theenda, theenda song. In terms of technology adoption, he is right behind ARR, without getting too much obsessed with it and lose concentration on the music.
  
  
• From: YSR Fan (@ 63.215.119.26) on: Fri May 25 15:12:04 EDT 2001
  
  it is an illusion regarding ARR and technology. I can't understand what techno he is using that IR has not already explored before. KR and YSR are able to bring style with techno and use it very intelligently and with 'discipline'. ARR is ways off and some of his songs very amazing severily lacks in lustre... very one dimensional and that is his key to his no.1. today's global listeners are uni-dimensional.
  
  
• From: Mridula (@ 62.7.92.67) on: Fri May 25 16:03:17 EDT 2001
  
  Kiru, I agree with you totally. Yuvan provides music taht is appreciated by the whole market. When looking for modern groovy and trendy music they look for Yuvan. ARR music is modern but there is not a lot of variation in the style of his music. Yuvan has incorporated, garage, Hip-hop, R&B, swing, jazz , classical, Drum&Bass as well as rap into his songs. I believe he is the first MD to have used all these new styles of music in his compositions. He uses them well and his fusion techniques are amazing. Yuvan has the no.1 spot in his sights and I believe he will be the new No.! and will reign for some time, just as ARR did(provided he doesn't leave TFM!).People like Harris cannot be involved in this equation yet as he has only one film under his belt.Maybe after another 7 or 8 hit films, we can include him in this comparison.
  Way to go Yuvan!Can't wait to hear Chemba, nandha and Velan.
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254) on: Fri May 25 16:14:55 EDT 2001
  
  even the U.S has awarded him for "the best M.D in bollywood"
  
  Is it State Department that gave this award?
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.47.171.199) on: Fri May 25 23:18:04 EDT 2001
  
  arr fan.,
  
  ARR got only two national awards - one for roja and another one for Minsara kanavu, So I doubt your 13 film fare awards as well, Its not even 13 years since ARR stared composing music and I understand filmfare award is only once in an year.
  
  Even if it is 13 (Assuming he got awards in more than one language same year), I don't rate filmfare/dinakaran/tamilnadu government/US commity awards that great - they go by popularity - remember Rajni got best actor award when Vikram was sitting in one end and crying ?
  
  National award for Roja - I agree. Rahman deserved it., Other than that, I feel all other awards went to him because of his popularity.
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: RK (@ 203.126.228.21) on: Fri May 25 23:26:04 EDT 2001
  
  The comparision with the two Lions ARR and IR is meaningful and very interesting. I don't know why the mouses are interupting in middle.
  
  
• From: TamizhChelvan (@ 24.190.53.78) on: Sat May 26 00:36:03 EDT 2001
  
  TFM fans,
  I get a feeling that YSR and KR are given undue importance in this forum just because they happen to be IR's sons. KR is a spent force but YSR does show lot of promise. Even then, YSR has miles to go before he can even think about playing catch up game with ARR. Let us not allow our rabid admiration for IR cloud our judgement when it comes to evaluating YSR/KR or Bhavatharini.
  TamizhChelvan
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.188) on: Sat May 26 03:18:39 EDT 2001
  
  Naga:
  >>>then your 'Swasame' has lot more inspiration from 'ladkiko dhekatho' song from 1942ALS.
  
  It seems that you have not listened properly to either "ladkiko" or "swasame".
  
  Ok. In my last postings I did not say that he made an exact copy of any song. I just said that he seems to have been inspired by ARR much. This is in reply to a statement by somebody that YSR is more innovite or imaginative or things like that than ARR.
  
  Regarding "Azhagana rakshashiye" and "theenda theenda" , I know that both are based on reethigoelai raagam. When I first wrote my impression about TI in one relevent thread I mentioned this and said that YSR has used it nicely and it has resemblence to his father's "meettaada veenai" song. What I mentioned now is a specific remblence of a perticular piece.
  
  Regarding Thenali it is far more better that Deena. Sorry, if you feel offended. And it is a fact that no other MD's album this year (including ARR's) could match Minnale till now. I doubt whether star will do that. This is MHO.
  
  
• From: Madhav (@ 213.1.154.159) on: Sat May 26 04:32:18 EDT 2001
  
  IMHO Deena is of better substance than Thenali. I feel the Thenali album ran solely for the film, Whereas in Dheena, the movie ran solely for the songs.I don't understand why ARR fans are so ready to accept that Harris' album is better than ARR's but find it so difficult to stomach that YSR's album is better than ARR's!
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sat May 26 05:02:59 EDT 2001
  
  I have been listening to a lot of YSR and KR music these days....and I contrast at times by playing ARR's and HJ's in between....
  
  YSR is energy, youthful etc. - Right
  Mature - No (ok..we'll give him time..he's too young)
  Depth - Has a lot more to learn here and go
  Classiness - Compared to ARR..still not there ...ARR's advertising exposure gives him the edge)
  Style - Definitely is there but he picks up a lot of his grooves and rhythms from modern top of the pop hits and the subtlety of ARR is missing...
  
  Still he is better than Deva, Sirpi, SAR..my rankings will be ARR > KR=YSR>HJ
  
  BEFORE YOU ALL JUMP...please listen that this is because YSR gets carried away and does a lot of TECHNO-OVERKILL...and he needs to work with a real quality lyricist....
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sat May 26 05:06:44 EDT 2001
  
  Madhav...if you say "Dheena" is better substance than Tenali..then this shows that you must be 10 to 17 years of age....bcos this clearly shows that you have not listened to a lot of music to judge the difference between young and seasoned composing...not that I'm an expert...but I've spent a major chunk of my life now listening to whatever music my ears can catch hold of from wherever
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.47.171.199) on: Sat May 26 05:52:01 EDT 2001
  
  cosmician,
  I strongly disagree with you., I am not btween 10 to 17 years of age, But I agree with Madhav., For me Thenali is a below average composition - even the cassette sales was down when compared to other ARR albums., Songs were MADE popular by humourous picturisation and nothing else., There are a couple of good songs - but all made in a hurry, but when you compare it with Dheena, which was a sincere attempt of a 'Budget' MD (this was the first BIG movie YSR got I guess) to enter into the lists of 'greats' - I feel Dheena has to edge in all angles.,
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sat May 26 08:01:15 EDT 2001
  
  Nagas...I respect your views..Dheena did have 1 or 2 fantastic songs.....I liked "Oru Kaadhal website..."
  and the pathos number "Sollamal...." (if these songs were picturised by Shankar...we would have had great stuff !)..but I'd compare these songs with the ARR of 95/96....where college kids were the target....Thenali was for a different audience...so pls don't compare "Thenali" with "Dheena"...compare "Dheena" with "Kaadhal Desam" is more appropriate....IR and ARR can infuse depth of feelings in their compositions bcos they both had very hard childhoods and had to work really hard - this has made them very sensitive and they are able to churn out compositions where you can feel their artistic nature....KR and YSR have got the talent but have to mature...maybe IR and ARR were lucky to have a hard childhood...it has made them into an artist in the truest sense...!
  
  
• From: YSR's Wife (@ 62.7.68.221) on: Sun May 27 15:13:08 EDT 2001
  
  is there any doubt?
  
  
• From: ~~arochordidae~~ (@ 204.50.249.133) on: Sun May 27 19:57:53 EDT 2001
  
  I don't like how some of you guys treat YSR and KR so badly and think, they are 'dust' compared to IR. In order for a musician, whether MD or singer, one has to start from somewhere and it mostly is down in the pits. Yet its this constant strive to get out of the pits and to be treated as an individual for one's talents that gives one the experience and motivation and that adds to a musician's success. Remember, IR was also once DOWN in the PITs somewhere. So, give credit to these guys....I"m not saying u to think their kings...just acknowledge ANY musician for their work and effort.
  
  Thxs.
  
  
• From: excuse me (@ 63.203.68.23) on: Sun May 27 20:31:43 EDT 2001
  
  hi ,
  there are always some people who like to critisice for the sake of it.they would like to oppose what otherssay so please dont pay heed to them ARR is a great musician
  
  

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