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Why are Ilayaraaja's beats so monotonous and boring?

Topic started by Anbey Sivam (@ 203.106.70.85) on Wed Feb 5 09:10:12 EST 2003.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

A little knowledgeable fan of music will easily identify the subsequent beats of any IR song after the first few words. His beats are the most boring and routine.

Frankly it is most amazing that his songs appeal to some people, given the monotony and non-imaginative nature of his songs.

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• From: Bala. (@ 4.37.102.100) on: Sun Feb 16 17:39:45 EST 2003
  
  mm.. I happen to c some guys in the threads they are generating a habit of bashing the music genius(Raja) without having any substance on ther side. Its ridiculous.I don't know what do they know about that great man's non stop work for the past 25 years. DO they atleast know what are all his achievemnets. They r telling that he is outdated and he is not using the sophisticated instuments. Really funny.. C.. illiterates he is the one who brought the computer systhesised music in the movie Vikram in mid 80's itself. I don't know whether u guys knwo or not A.R.Rahman's work with Raja for the movie Punnagai Mannan. Even now no other music directors create such a kind of percussion. If u get a chance get the dvd of Chiraisaalai or Hey Ram.. what an amzing bgm with aun international quality. Even u can compare them with the hollywood movies. C when Raja was young he gave shoulder to lot of great directors work.. who were already very dominant in the Industry. The names like Jaaganath, Balachander, K.Viswanath, Sreedhar.. he never gave flops to those legends. He was so sincere to those directors.And moreover its so visible that he always did justice to the young and as well the matured hero's at that time to maintain and improve their image. He gave hands to all the new talent to the industry. Barathiraaja, R.Sundarajan, Rajasekar, Maniratnam, S.P.Muthuraman,Amirjan, Fazil, Balumahendra, Ranagrajan,Gangai Amaran,Bagyaraj,Manivannan,Parthiban.. when they came to the industry. This is like in 80's. Samthing continued in the 90's also. There are lot of directors. Action movie or Village story or art movie or histroical story.. the director's first choice is Raja. U know in 90's Kathir, Priyadahrasan, they managed to get a big entry only bcoz of raja's music. Think about all the other new music directors.. they have done their job very well in sending the great directors home. For instnace Balachander and Barathiraja are already gone and mani is on the way.. there is no need for me to explain what happened with those director's movies and the bgm in their movies.C songs only wont make a movie hit.. songs are only for the 20 mins in a 3 hours movie.But bgm has to tie the people to their seats all through the movie. Now their movies bgm sucks big time.These directors they were doing that job very well when they work with raja.Every other movie of those directors are big hits bcoz of their musical value. o.k leave that... think about the new directors those who come to the industry with lots of dreams.. do they get satisfied with this isai puyal's work. S.. his music is like a storm only... that will come once in a while.. but that won't do anything good for the people. Do u guys remember.. y the movies like pudhiya mugam, pavithra, may madham.. are flops even they have good songs.. bcoz of this guy's funky bgm. Not only that.. c kannathil muthamittal which really needs to describe the pathetic life of the srilankan tamils.. this guy did such a worse work that.. noone gotr the effect.. even that was visualized nicely. But Still Raja.. is doing a great job in giving his strong shoulders to the new talents. Bala, Thangarbachan,A.R.Murugadoss.. and a lot of names to come.. So pls accept the truth... When ur MD is going to really give his hands to help the Directors to give big success then really we believe that he is a music genius.. till then lets leave about talking that guy who is never realted to music..
  
  
• From: Lollu Party (@ 61.6.38.132) on: Sun Feb 16 19:26:07 EST 2003
  
  Some people's opinions are crisp and to the point. While some others' are monotonous and boring, just like their guru's. :)
  
  
• From: purv (@ 205.231.145.187) on: Sun Feb 16 20:55:41 EST 2003
  
  It's funny, and kind of sad, that someone with, say, Lollu Party's intelligence and sophistication would waste time trying to change IR fans' opinions. I pity people like that, really. :-(
  
  
• From: Lollu Party (@ 61.6.38.132) on: Sun Feb 16 21:11:29 EST 2003
  
  purv, I will NOT dream of changing IR fans' opinions. That would be an exercise in futility. :)
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 202.95.121.98) on: Sun Feb 16 23:40:32 EST 2003
  
  lollu,
  
  dream? futility? wat talking u?
  suck on a lollupop and move away quitely plz.
  
  
• From: Lollu Party (@ 61.6.38.132) on: Mon Feb 17 02:42:00 EST 2003
  
  ambleen, sucking seems to be your speciality.
  Yes, I WILL move away from you! :)
  
  
• From: Prabhu (@ 203.195.200.2) on: Mon Feb 17 08:15:22 EST 2003
  
  Folks, simply ignore this Low-loo Party, whose only intention is to kill time by starting fights. He is more of a Kollu Paati, and when he says 'ARR' or 'Roja' he is referring to brands of supari and not the composer :)
  
  Back to the topic plz.
  
  
• From: Vaseegara (@ 203.106.185.41) on: Mon Feb 17 09:06:11 EST 2003
  
  Prabhu, you don't handle defeat very well do you?
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.169.191) on: Mon Feb 17 10:40:44 EST 2003
  
  Sugar can be poisonous for some (diabetic) but gives a great taste for the rest so as IR beats.
  
  
  
• From: purv (@ 205.231.31.48) on: Mon Feb 17 10:54:41 EST 2003
  
  Ok then, L~P, what are you trying to do then?
  
  
• From: vardhini (@ 137.237.12.102) on: Mon Feb 17 12:42:59 EST 2003
  
  Friends, just listen to
  'Vaanengum thanga vinmeengal vizhiImai moodi' song from Moonraam Pirai. I couldn't help rocking for the rythm
  
  
• From: outsider (@ 206.20.111.104) on: Mon Feb 17 14:08:27 EST 2003
  
  
  When I think of good, rocking beats I think of Deva's Gaana music. However I have won't eliminated IR from my tamil listening and will keep an open mind. I do recognize that he is a talented composer and more enjoyable than some I've heard, but perhaps my taste in music is different than IR's style.
  
  
  
• From: Lollu Party (@ 61.6.38.132) on: Mon Feb 17 19:59:36 EST 2003
  
  Purv - How about setting the records straight? :)
  
  
  Prabhu, Honestly I have forgotten what is it in me that irks you. It is easy to do what you do (such as calling you Bra-boo, etc) but I don't usually carry grudges. If you have anything against me, take it out directly please.
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Tue Feb 18 02:50:24 EST 2003
  
  >>>If you have anything against me, take it out directly please.
  
  
  They don't ahev any thing reasonable against anybody here. If they reason out then it will fall flat and expose how unreasonalble it was...So LP, don't worry. All these things show frustrations. Blank and big frustration.
  
  
• From: purv (@ 205.231.31.244) on: Tue Feb 18 14:00:35 EST 2003
  
  Okay, Lollu Party. You and IR don't click. I can see that as clear as day. For you, Ilayaraja can do no right. That is the long and the short of it, no? That's OK. I'm sure there must be someone in the TFM industry that can do no justice for me, I just have to think about WHO.....
  
  
• From: mythila (@ 137.237.12.102) on: Tue Feb 18 15:04:22 EST 2003
  
  Another 2 songs with interesting rythm which I listened today from film Anjali
  1. Mottai maadi mottai maadi
  2. Iravu nilavu - I loved the interludes in this song .
  
  
• From: Speaker (@ 203.126.142.232) on: Tue Feb 18 21:55:46 EST 2003
  
  Vardini, Vaanengum is the longest pallavi song in TFM according to VM.
  Paruvame song in nenjathai killathe, the footsteps sound are created by "thodai" thaalam.Is it so?
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 202.95.121.98) on: Wed Feb 19 00:08:44 EST 2003
  
  lollu payale,
  
  pls go and answer Musio's queries in the other thread and stop hiding behind the sarees here.
  
  
• From: Paran (@ 210.193.13.137) on: Wed Feb 19 01:25:49 EST 2003
  
  amaaa...ambleen oru periya pudungi....vathetare peesa...
  
  (u think i will scold u like that?...naaah)
  
  we ARR fans are decent people...so...enjoy ur shoutings ambleen...can u increase teh volument please...
  
  
• From: Paran (@ 210.193.13.137) on: Wed Feb 19 01:30:02 EST 2003
  
  sorry...some corrections please
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  we ARR fans are decent people...so...enjoy ur shoutings ambleen...can u increase teh volument please...
  
  SHOULD BE
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  we ARR fans are decent people...so...enjoy ur shoutings ambleen...can u increase the volume please...
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 202.95.121.98) on: Wed Feb 19 02:47:15 EST 2003
  
  sorry...some corrections please
  **********
  we ARR fans are decent people...so...enjoy ur shoutings ambleen...can u increase teh volument please...
  
  SHOULD BE
  **************
  we ARR fans are decent people...so...enjoy ur shoutings ambleen...can u increase the volume please...
  
  CONFIRM SHOULD BE
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  we are ARR fans....ALL nuts.
  
  
• From: Kiran (@ 210.187.110.230) on: Wed Feb 19 03:11:13 EST 2003
  
  ARR PREFERS TO RECORD ONLY AT NIGHTS ..U KNOW ?? WHY ?? COZ HE STEALS THEM ....hee hee
  
  
• From: X (@ 156.153.254.42) on: Wed Feb 19 03:24:02 EST 2003
  
  Anbey Sivam :
  WHAT ABOUT ARR ?
  Why are ARR beats so monotonous and boring????
  
  
• From: Kiran (@ 210.187.110.230) on: Wed Feb 19 03:44:04 EST 2003
  
  BUT AR'S 'SOLLA...'...FROM KADHAL VIRUS SOUNDED VERY MONOTONOUS...SAME OLS STYLE GOT BORED...EVEN YE YE ENACHU WILL NOT STAY GOOD FOR LONG !!.......
  
  
• From: Paran (@ 210.193.13.137) on: Wed Feb 19 04:50:59 EST 2003
  
  AHH!!!...KIRAN...if u work at nite..that shows u r stealing?...
  
  for ur info...YSR also works at nite....
  
  is he stealing too?...
  
  
  
• From: outsider (@ 206.20.111.97) on: Wed Feb 19 06:46:00 EST 2003
  
  
  My refrigerator works at night also. I hope it's not stealing.
  
  
  
• From: Villain (@ 202.188.25.63) on: Wed Feb 19 07:13:32 EST 2003
  
  Better to be a stealer than to be a murderer.
  Yup. IR has murdered TFM. For that his soul will never RIP.
  Good riddance to bad rubbish.
  
  
• From: purv (@ 205.231.31.218) on: Wed Feb 19 20:26:29 EST 2003
  
  outsider, nice riddle! My heater works at night as well! It had better not be stealing either!
  
  Villain, very appropriate name you picked out for yourself.
  
  
  
• From: mythila (@ 137.237.13.20) on: Thu Feb 20 16:34:57 EST 2003
  
  My heart works at night too.
  But it has been stolen.
  The rythm of my heart
  is beating like the drum of IR's beats , boring? monotonous? !!! ha ha ha...
  
  

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