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Vote 'Adi Rakkamma' for World's Top Ten for BBC! Click here!

Topic started by Vijay Venkatram J (@ 203.145.160.235) on Mon Nov 11 11:08:23 EST 2002.
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Dear Friends,

Let us vote for 'Adi Rakkamma' from THALAPATHI as our choice for the World's Top Ten Songs poll conducted by BBC!

I am suggesting this song because if in case the BBC people listen to the nominated songs, they will feel knocked out on hearing our Maestro's 150 Vioins' Strings Ensemble!

Let us all do it at:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/us/features/topten/

Yours Always Musically,
Vijay.

Maestro Ilaiyaraaja Fans Club at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ilaiyaraaja

RaajaNGAHM at http://www.raajangahm.com/members.html

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Responses:

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• From: Vel (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Thu Nov 28 04:54:18 EST 2002
  
  OISG,
  
  You are missing the bigger picture. The point is, now if 100 people heard "rakkamma" for the heck of this poll result thing, atleast 10 would take one step further and listen to more of IR.
  
  And out of this 10, even if just 1 of 'em realizes that there is someone in India who breathes, eats & lives music and gets hooked, he would be blessed for the rest of his life with some real soulful music (not just electronic kid- stuff which sounds downright fake, unsatisfying, pretentious and "artificially made up synthetic plug n play music"!!).
  
  My mate, thats the whole real goddamn idea of pushing this "rakkamma" right up there, to the top.
  
  We aint pushin IR up, we r pushin good music...
  
  
• From: geeth (@ 213.121.248.170) on: Thu Nov 28 06:23:22 EST 2002
  
  on top of all, a tamil song is being pushed for - worldwide attention.
  bbc did not fix any rules - it just asked what is your favourite song ? enter 'Raakkamma' and what an attention it got.
  Recognition ? Doesn't matter for now, lets talk later on. Hope to see a few Tamil CDs in major music stores in major cities in future. Thats a dream! this vote is creating a wave !
  If it stays in the top 10 by Dec21 it will be a celebration for tfm fans.
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Thu Nov 28 06:39:55 EST 2002
  
  100>>>10>>>1
  
  Does this not amount to understimating IR s music?
  
  Friend,Lets assume the song from Rwanda wins the BBC poll (I know you guys won t let it happen!).How many of us would like to know the man from Rwanda who too "might Breath,might eat & might Live music"?It will be catastrophe without a reinsurance cover if 100>>10>>1 IR fans switch to the Rwandan music.
  
  And geeth ..I dont think Music shops in India would store Rwandan music either.
  
  Anyways ONE basic fact ..."good music doesn t need pushing ".
  
  Coming back to the BBC poll i would still vote for Imagine..
  
  
• From: Vel (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Thu Nov 28 07:13:29 EST 2002
  
  OSIG,
  
  Thengai moodi katcherikkum kuyil paatukkum vithiyasam irukku sir. Seems you are fighting the cause of "discotheque chaos", we are simply trying our best to hard sell "mind's peace".
  Go weave ur fake n brittle dream world with the synthetic music buzzing all around you. No one is stopping you..
  
  If a song from rwanda topped the chart and u dont care a damn to see why it is at top, u simply belong to the "less gifted" 90 out of the 100 i talked of. Koduthu vaichadhu avvalavudhaan...
  
  "Good stuff (music) doesn't need pushing"...what on earth gave you that idea? The world today might have millions of unsung forms of art (music, architecture etc) which are pathbreaking & stunning but probably never ever reached the show-biz limelight that u r talking of. That does not take away anything from its real worth. And if someone thought that it needs pushing, well then whynot?
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Thu Nov 28 07:56:38 EST 2002
  
  I side with OISG, regarding the argument he putforth.
  
  IMHO, we as fans of IR trying to do that which i think IR is not that much worried about ie. making him popular worldwide. But surely he was/is worried about the recognition that he did not get from his own pals, i.e. the Indians(to be broader Indian orgins) that is what a geniune artist who love and live with his art would crave for.
  
  Let me explain with an example. Assume that there is a gifted painter who could paint anything extradinorily but does in the roadside, hence so far has been unnoticed. He will not be worried (might be happy, that is different) if we see his painting, recognise them AND "go elsewhere and spread this splendid thing to others so that he becomes popular". But he will definitely be worried if we don't care his splendid work, and to add insult to injury, would throw some rubbish over it without even recognising it.
  
  Seeing IR's interviews he never lamented about the (as we have come to know) the ill-treatement he got for his symphony by RPO, in the western world. But he is surely worried about the way most of the indians, indian govt. has treated him (he assumes that as indians they surely could recognise his work which they aren't doing). This is evident in some of his recent interviews.
  
  
• From: WN (@ 203.24.100.137) on: Thu Nov 28 08:04:51 EST 2002
  
  "Rigging, the RK factor.. what next, the Amrish Puri factor, global warming, spanish oil spill, ... ? Keep the creative juices flowing.."
  
  "WN, you obviously don't visit yahoo fan groups"
  
  Let's see now. Wat do we have here?
  
  1. ARR fans strategise to bulk vote in YGs. This, according to Suresh is a fact. "bulk vote" in this case is to be criminal, insane and very BAD.
  
  2. "rigging", "RK factor" is creative, and figments of mine and other ARR fans' imagination.
  
  Now let us look around the globe...ok, at least at some other YGs. Some posts from the yahoo group known as Rajinidotcom:
  
  "Its an open secret that "Rakkamma Kaiya thattu" is voted BECAUSE OF THAILVAR and also not been one of the best songs for all those involved. I too voted because it is THAILVAR's song. Having an debate into this would be childish as the criteria is already been set by our fans that to make the THAILVARS song THE NUMBER 1 in the world. I too accept and second the view of the member in the forum, his views are perfectly correct. Its not being voted for LYRICS OR
  MUSIC, but FOR THAILVAR ALONE!!!!."
  
  Source: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Rajinidotcom/message/3372
  
  Read on...the posts may be eye-openers to some here wallowing in delusion.
  
  When IR fans openly strategise on how to make and keep IR's song at no1, that according to Suresh, is not conspiring to bulk vote. That is called taking the moral highground and proving to the world tat "It's about showing people outside that thamizh cinema is alive and popular, that there is a mass of people who patronise a cinema form/culture other than 'b/wood', more particularly that there are indeed a good no. of literate & net-savvy Indians who don't speak Hindi, and that Indian cinema doesn't start with 'Shri 420' and end with 'Devdas'."
  This sounds like beauty pageant contestants who want to win the crown so they can "eliminate world proverty and bring world peace". Yeah sure. With a pretty gown and a sash that reads "Tamil Nadu bakhtan" some here will look prettier than beauty queens.
  If ARR fans bulk voted we have to be shot dead for doing a BAD thing. But it's obvious who is getting more "bulk votes".
  
  And it's also about showing the world the might and strength of the 60m Tamil Nadu population and how the Indian govt has succeeded in making computers and internet accessible to much of the population.
  
  Eventhough we r out to prove the might of Tamils in the world, isnt it ironic Rev. Suresh doesn't make much of the same British media's comment "The Asian Mozart from Madras"? He conveniently swaps Madras for East and talks about promoting a Tamil ahem, in this case someone other than Rahman (not a Tamil?) despite his fierce Tamil pattru.
  
  I'm sorry Suresh, but I thought better of you.
  
  
• From: Vel (@ 202.88.152.159) on: Thu Nov 28 08:08:39 EST 2002
  
  :-)Kupps, logic odhaikkudhe...
  
  If we didnt realize & care for his splendid genius, we wont be spreading the word abt this poll at all, will we?
  
  
• From: suresh (@ 202.88.155.34) on: Thu Nov 28 08:20:44 EST 2002
  
  OISG
  
  AK56 ellam lEthu, etho pAmaranukku eatha gOli soda :)
  
  No surprises there who you would not vote for. Political correctness demands you to 'Imagine' even as your heart marches to a different beat in that list..
  
  Propping up? Never mind, we shall ignore yahoo groups and pretend that they never existed..
  Craving for west? Another popular refrain, missing the wood for the trees...
  
  "Good stuff doesn't need pushing"? You would send a whole PR factory out of work, pal. Then, we would be deprived of entertainment that comes in the form of "Mozart of the East, combined sales more than beatles, MJ etc...".
  
  Ah, your newfound turn at pseph_ology (would you believe that newtfmpage disallows 'p h o l' as vulgarity? maybe i've regressed in my swear vocabulary)! Since when have polls/elections required to prove representative character across lingua, caste, religion, region et al and not the quantitative whole? Gulf-la romba naaL iruntha ippadi thaan elections pathi ellam maRanthu pogum :)
  
  Amitabh's win was not just systematic en mass voting, it was because in its frequency and spread his votes demonstrated a connect with the lowest common denominator across the 'Indian cinema fan' master category.
  
  In marketing terms, IR is a brand that has lasted 25+ years and still continues to evoke strong feelings of association. Never mind if like the proverbial MAC run over by the PC he remains in a niche by himself; what matters is he continues to be a name to reckon (within TFM atleast, ok?) and is still the numero uno choice for a select lot of young, successful and native directors. By any professional yardstick, this is no mean achievement.
  
  25 years on, this Diwali, Ramana and SMK are both declared hits. This week, yet another big film (Pithamagan) launched featuring him as a pivotal crew member, by yet another sycophantic director.
  If all this are taken as manifestations of a cult behaviour not grounded in critical appreciation nor market reality, then nothing more need to be said.
  
  "Rakkamma" is not my ideal choice at all, I would have preferred countless other IR songs above this that could provide a better glimpse of his talent and legacy. But as I said, this is more about a set of emotions, of symbolisms. Of proving that in the sea of jackets, jeans and navel rings, a veshti can still count for something.
  
  
• From: suresh (@ 202.88.155.34) on: Thu Nov 28 08:33:27 EST 2002
  
  WN
  Did I ever say that IR fans were not multiple posting/ bulk voting? I was only protesting at a selective insinuation; you obviously didnt get it, so let's leave it at that.
  
  Asian Mozart, now that's a howler even by PR standards. And about all the rest, suffice to say that having lived out of TN most (or all?) of your life, you will not appreciate what I'm saying even if you reluctantly cast aside your fan affiliation..
  
  natpudan..
  
  

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