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TFMin isai kuyil PSa, SJa, Chithravaa?

Topic started by Shanmugam Murugappan (@ ifmxmenlo.informix.com) on Thu Dec 3 16:32:36 EST 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Hi all,

I just surfed thro' the net and happened to see the profile of PS. She was heralded as the "Lata Mangeshkar" of TFM. Does she deserve that crown more than SJ and Chithra?

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• From: MS (@ ) on: Sat May 27 17:56:25 EDT 2000
  
  Both SJ and chithra have their web sites.
  
  http://www.sjanaki.com
  
  http://www.chithra.com/
  
  PS ?
  
  
• From: MS (@ ) on: Sat May 27 17:56:41 EDT 2000
  
  Both SJ and chithra have their web sites.
  
  http://www.sjanaki.com
  
  http://www.chithra.com/
  
  PS ?
  
  
• From: sk (@ beacon-ext.nus.edu.sg) on: Sat May 27 20:04:49 EDT 2000
  
  MS:
  
  adhilirundhu 'isaikkuyil' yArendru theriyavillayA?
  kuyilin isaiyai makkaLidam solla web site ellAm
  thEvai illai. :-))
  
  
• From: Kusumban (@ snfca020-0413.splitrock.net) on: Sun May 28 00:13:40 EDT 2000
  
  vElai, does this have anything to do with theor singing abilities ?:))))
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9) on: Sun May 28 12:28:45 EDT 2000
  
  SK:
  
  A piece of info. My catty intention was to get YOUR attention on this matter :-) I checked with networksolutions.com and found that the domain name www.psusheela.com is still available for good. If, on the earth, fans of PS like you/karthik (branded a susheela bakhthan or piththan or any synonym which is a compliment, though in harsh terms :-) may take an initiative to announce to the rest of the world the inimitable sweetness of her voice, it will be an act of gratitude to the joy she has given us through her songs. Can you stop to ponder over ?
  
  
• From: Balaji (@ 1cust244.tnt12.nyc3.da.uu.net) on: Sun May 28 14:48:47 EDT 2000
  
  Well said sk:
  
  It is really sad KCS is compared to PS or SJ. No doubt KCS is good. But more than that she is really lucky to have really no big competition in the field.(She is like Alka Yagnik, good singer, lucky but no great shakes compared to Lata/Asha. Sure our KSC is much,much better than Alka)
  Sure KSC must have got more awards (national/states..) than the other two. One should realize awards are for the songs of that year and looking at the field she has to compete with Alka, Sujatha, Anuradha, Kavitha and others for these awards, her winning is only natural. She is the best among the younger(? is mid 30s younger?) generation.
  
  A singer is considered best, if she sings without interruption (i.e Moochu Iraippu illamal..) and KSC has to work a lot on that. Ofcourse seeing Sujatha and others, KSC is better in that field too. Moreover Uchcharippu is never KSCs best point. I am surprised how these Malyali singers find it difficulty with 'La', 'Lha' when both these laas appear in the language name itself. A pont to be added also that KD made sure his singers had the right uchcharippu and I am sure this must have helped PS/SJ do better. I still consider uchcharippu-wise, Vani Jayaram is the best, followed by SJ and PS (Ps sometimes pronounce sa as Sa (sarpam sa)).
  
  Some achievements of KSC may include:
  1. quick to rise to popularity
  2. Sung in many (if not most) languages
  3. Sings in all South Indian Languages and popular in all (PS was more popular in Tamil/Telugu), something closer to SJ.
  4. Winner of more all type of awards
  But come TFM, PS will always be the Queen followed very very closely by SJ, IMHO.
  
  Balaji
  
  
  
• From: kothippu alias aruvi:-) (@ webcache.ccs.yorku.ca) on: Mon May 29 00:35:26 EDT 2000
  
  Balaji, please make sure you come back into this thread in about 4 weeks. Thank you.
  
  
• From: Velaiyaththavan (@ 129.252.22.9) on: Mon May 29 01:22:31 EDT 2000
  
  hi..hi..expected feud delayed :-)
  
  
• From: sk (@ boo.ucar.edu) on: Mon May 29 03:12:22 EDT 2000
  
  vElaiyatra nAradhar Aramibiththu vaiththa kalagam
  endrum nalaththilEyE mudiyum. :-))
  
  
• From: Kusumbu Kuppan (@ snfca060-0249.splitrock.net) on: Mon May 29 05:30:57 EDT 2000
  
  vElai, ithu thaan un vElaya ?
  
  
• From: Balaji (@ 1cust45.tnt12.nyc3.da.uu.net) on: Mon May 29 07:10:20 EDT 2000
  
  Aruvi & others:
  
  I realize my comments are causing unnecessary hurt feelings among KSC's fans.
  
  I am sorry for this and I wish others ignore my comments
  
  Let this thread continue without any more acrimony.
  
  Thanks
  Balaji
  
  
  
• From: karthi (@ 204.120.54.1) on: Fri Jun 2 21:01:50 EDT 2000
  
  well said Balaji!
  
  sk, have you heard PS's "Karumaari Un PadhamE" devotional song?
  
  Please hear it. She proves why she's the best just like that!
  
  
• From: sk (@ harvest.ucar.edu) on: Fri Jun 2 23:06:59 EDT 2000
  
  Karthi:
  
  andha pAttu nAn kEttadhillai. :-(
  
  
• From: Watchman (@ snfca060-0285.splitrock.net) on: Sat Jun 3 04:36:09 EDT 2000
  
  Karthi, there are other threads too for you to contribute:)))
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ webcache.ccs.yorku.ca) on: Tue Jun 6 11:22:28 EDT 2000
  
  ...?
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ 63-217-90-105.sdsl.cais.net) on: Fri Jun 9 00:08:14 EDT 2000
  
  S.Janaki is the greatest female singer in TFM. The coming together of SJ, SPB and IR was the best thing to have happened to TFM. PS has a great voice, no doubt. But SJ is a better singer. Chitra cannot be included in the comparision because she herself claims to be a fan of SJ ! So I still win :-)
  
  
• From: meera sandeep (@ inet-fw3-o.oracle.com) on: Fri Jun 9 20:04:25 EDT 2000
  
  Srinath you said it. SJ is always greatest.She is not only greatest in TFM,she is the QUEEN of our KFM(Kannada Film Music).Long live our QUEEN.
  
  Regards
  Meera
  
  
  
• From: Neel (@ ts006d25.har-ct.concentric.net) on: Fri Jun 9 22:53:28 EDT 2000
  
  That combination is unmatchable. I can't agree more. So many lovely songs from SJ/SPB/IR. Add to it some centhamizh lyrics. The mood they create cannot be created by any other combination.
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ webcache.ccs.yorku.ca) on: Fri Jun 9 23:39:51 EDT 2000
  
  Well in that case, SJ is a fan of Chithra's. So does that mean that gets excluded from the competition as well???
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.222) on: Sat Jun 10 08:30:55 EDT 2000
  
  aruvi! adhu vandhu, is like, `Vashistar vAyAl Brahmarishi' (am I correct with the usage?:-))
  
  SJ singing with IR's music - some of the sweetest songs ever! (sendhoorappoovE, pAda vA are immediate flashes..)
  
  SJ/SPB with IR's music - the best duet combination ever in IFM! (starting with `oru nAl')
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ webcache.ccs.yorku.ca) on: Sat Jun 10 11:08:11 EDT 2000
  
  Eden, I don't understand the 'vashsistar' stuff?
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9) on: Sat Jun 10 12:07:00 EDT 2000
  
  Sri:
  
  Ilaiyaraja is a fan of MSV. SO srikanth still wins ? :-)
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.217) on: Mon Jun 12 01:47:20 EDT 2000
  
  aruvi!
  Vashista munivar of ancient days is supposed to be the greatest of the sages and Viswamithra Munivar got the coveted `brahma rishi' title from him, which is so difficult to receive! Thus the saying `Vashistar vAyAl Brahmarishi' (others please correct if my above explaination has errors)...
  
  Now I used this illustration to compare SJ & KSC:-)
  
  
• From: Neel (@ ts006d08.har-ct.concentric.net) on: Mon Jun 12 08:23:37 EDT 2000
  
  How can one compare alattikkAmal pAdum KSC with uyiraik koduththu pAdum PS/SJ?
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9) on: Mon Jun 12 10:45:05 EDT 2000
  
  what a gross accusation neel !
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ webcache.ccs.yorku.ca) on: Mon Jun 12 10:52:53 EDT 2000
  
  Neel,
  Uyirai koduthu?:-)
  I believe you are not familiar with KSC-jis songs. Can't argue with an ignorant.
  
  
• From: Balaji (@ webproxy05qfe0.sbi.com) on: Mon Jun 12 13:30:25 EDT 2000
  
  Aruvi:
  
  Shouldn't you be questioning 'alattikkAmal pAdum KSC' comment rather than questioning 'uyiraik koduththu pAdum PS/SJ' comment???
  
  Balaji
  
  
• From: sk (@ azure-ext.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Jun 12 18:37:01 EDT 2000
  
  Aruvi, MS and bb:
  
  I think Neel is trying to say..
  
  KSC sings in the same range as SJ/PS without any
  effort
  
  and so he is putting KSC one level above the other two.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.25.227) on: Mon Jun 12 19:36:05 EDT 2000
  
  Neel,
  uyirai koduthu paadum SJ?!!! Do u know that she is the ONLY singer in TFM who doesnt show any traces of stain on her face while singing. IR himself was said to have told this. Have u seen swarnalatha showing starin in ger face when singing in the higher octaves? I have seen SJ singing live on stage recently on TV singing songs happy,pathos,erotic, (u name it) songs with exactly the same serious expression in her face. u would'nt believe that she was actually singing.
  
  when it comes to expressive singing, I have to agree with Srinath, SJ simply rules. PS and chithra might be great singers but twhen it comes to expressing range of emotions right froma seductive number like ponmeni to a pathos like nallathor veenai seidhen or chinna thaai aval no one can beat SJ.
  
  Of couse, this is all IMHO;))
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.25.227) on: Mon Jun 12 19:38:37 EDT 2000
  
  and adding to the above one artiste being a fan of other doesnt make anyone inferior or superior to each other. These are statements which in general are made out of modesty on the part of the singers and the respect that they have for each other. In some cases they may be false modesty and in some cases genuine. Either way it does'nt matter.
  
  
• From: Neel (@ ts006d46.har-ct.concentric.net) on: Mon Jun 12 19:44:59 EDT 2000
  
  sk, that is one way to interpret it. But that is not what I meant. I won't deny that KSC has a sweet voice. But her performance is average IMO.
  
  For example, in Kadalora kavidhaigal when SJ begins adi AthAdI..... it is just heaven. KSCyAl appadi kural eduthu pAda mudiyAthu. That is why she sang podi nadaiyA pOravarE (which was cute however).
  
  
• From: Neel (@ ts006d46.har-ct.concentric.net) on: Mon Jun 12 19:52:15 EDT 2000
  
  vijay,
  I was still typing while you posted. Please read my comment above.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.25.227) on: Mon Jun 12 20:01:01 EDT 2000
  
  Neel,
  but still IMO, SJ need'nt have to give her life to sing the way she sings. she can do it even in her sleep.
  
  
• From: Balaji (@ webproxy06qfe0.sbi.com) on: Tue Jun 13 07:33:29 EDT 2000
  
  Sk
  
  Same levele Uthaikkuddhu?? (Aruvi, Kutty exception), one or more levels abovea????
  
  Enna kodumai da!! Kali Gaalam!!!
  
  Balaji
  
  

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